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@Leck said in David Nofoaluma:

@Bob said in David Nofoaluma:

@Leck said in David Nofoaluma:

@twentyforty said in David Nofoaluma:

@Leck said in David Nofoaluma:

@twentyforty said in David Nofoaluma:

@Leck said in David Nofoaluma:

Time to move on from Nofa. He hasn’t re-signed and the writing is on the wall.

In late November his manager made it known that he wanted more coin because it was (apparently) his last chance for a contract.

Which is rubbish, he’s 27 and he has at least 2 NRL contracts left + an opportunity to play ESL at the back end of his career.

Since then all we’ve heard is dead air.

His managers attempt to lift his price was PR jargon and we were right to offer him what he’s worth

  • max $450-500K.

In my opinion that’s even too much. One decent year versus five average years doesn’t make you a quality top 5 NRL winger.

Nofa and his manager are playing games and we should stick to our guns and promote AJ /Talau or even Momo to the right wing if he decides to defect and sign up with the Eels or Bunnies.

Sorry for being ignorant, but when was that one good year again?

He won the Dally M winger last year, which I can’t deny, however he hasn’t proven to be a consistent strike winger across his entire career.

If he decides to leave us I feel confident we have the talent to fill his position.

Leck, I’m slowly losing faith in the value of awards as a means of evaluating performance. I guess I saw more of Nofa than I did of other wingers, but I don’t think that’s how he got the award is it? Didn’t he get the award because the DallyM judges gave him points compared to WT players performance? Our team performance was regrettable but Nofa’s highlight reel was a tribute to his skill and that of other players around him. A good winger competes for the high ball. Rowdy did a better job of that than Nofa. A good winger scores tries, which he did, 17 of them, but he let in 23, making him the worst defensive winger in the nrl . Jennings was so much better defensively than Nofa.
The DallM winger award carried no weight with Blues selectors.

I completely agree with you and in my opinion our Dally M points system is flawed.

It’s solely based on a panel of three judges who can be biased at times.

I’d like to see it based upon a points system which collates data for both the front and back row.

For example -

Primary Score

Most meters gained: 1 point
Most offloads: 1 point
Most line breaks: 1 point
Most line break assists: 1 point
Most tackles made: 1 point
Most kicks and effective meters gained: 1 point
Most missed tackles: -1 point
Most errors made: -1 point
Most penalties conceded: -1 point
Try scored: 2 points

Judges Score (3 X judges allocate these points)

Plays that change the game (e.g. an outstanding attacking or defensive play, a kick from the sideline or a last second field goal to win the game): 2 points
Overall player of the game: 2 points

Whilst this might sound complicated we live in 2021 and can easily create algorithms which produce instant in-game data.

A system like this would ensure the Dally M was based on facts rather than just the opinions of judges.

In terms of Nofa, I think he should have made the NSW squad even if only on the bench, but I also think his defense was probably a liability that Freddy didn’t want to take a punt on.

If the NRL produced weekly in-game Dally M data, who knows maybe the winners and our NSW squad would have looked different and won.

That SuperCoach point scoring is really no more efficient. In fact any individual accolades or selections will never be perfect in a team sport, because a great team makes individuals shine.

I’m not sure about that, I think we can refine it and make it much more fan friendly + interactive.

Imagine seeing each player judged live and in-game (+1 or -1 per player per criteria) judged by you?

You decide via a live app, the NRL collates your votes, and then 3 x NRL judges have the final 30% vote.

For me , it’s a win/win and no-brainier for fans, the NRL and how we judge the Dally M in years to come.

Sounds better than being judged by judges who don’t even watch the game.

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@twentyforty said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Strongee said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@twentyforty said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@weststigerman said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@weststigerman said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@westy81 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@bathursttiger1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Wish we could clone TT.

Would love to see another Tuiaki in our team, he is my favorite player of all time

If he was around these days with the fascination over speed, most people here would say he’s not fast enough.

Tabuai-Fidow, JAC, Papenhuyzen bring a new dimension to an attack. This is a commodity WTs’ fans have been starved of for years. The young inidigenous winger training. with the WTs immediately raises interest for this reason.

Well given we already have Roberts who is as quick as any of those guys, hopefully you’re right and he does that.

Outside of the nines, I think I saw Tabuai-Fidow in a position to use his speed twice in the whole season.

Good point . There’s no value in driving a Porsche around the city. It needs to be on the Sturt highway unlimited section.

Is it unlimited ? I thought it was 130 ?

Yeh, I think you’re right.

It used to be unlimited. Changed maybe ten years ago.

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@jirskyr said in Player Dramas in the NRL Off-Season (Silly Season)😇😈🤡:

@JD-Tiger said in Player Dramas in the NRL Off-Season (Silly Season)😇😈🤡:

I certainly highly suspect that the fix is in a lot of the time. I don’t think every play in the game is scripted beforehand, but I feel there’s definitely a result the referee has in mind before the game starts, and they do what they can to make that happen. It doesn’t go their way 100% of the time, but I suspect it’s most of the time.
Edit: So yeah Steve, scripted is probably the wrong word, probably a bit over the top.
The blatant subjectivity in refereeing, the judiciary, dealing with salary cap cheating, favourable gifts, it’s just gotten more and more blatant over the years, so much so that they barely try to hide it anymore.

What baloney.

I’m curious to understand what specific benefit NRL gains from Melbourne Storm winning another premiership. If anything, a Tigers win is as beneficial to NRL as anything, as it re-awakens a powerhouse supporter group that hasn’t experienced success since 2011.

I’m also curious to understand how Broncos getting wooden spoon benefits NRL, considering many folks think they have a “rails run” with game scheduling.

Does it help NRL for Roosters to win back-to-back premierships, or are they just paid-off by Uncle Nick?

Conspiracies up the wazoo and not a shred of evidence, how Trumpian.

Apologies for not responding earlier, I only just saw this post.

Trumpian? Wow, I have never been called that before. Cynical I get more often, and I probably would have agreed with you if you had said that.

From what I understand, the majority owner of Melbourne Storm is Matt Tripp, a man who has made 100s of millions of dollars through online gambling companies. The NRL is a business, not a sport, this has been very clearly demonstrated since the Super League war, and like any big business it’s about making money for the big business stakeholders. I would love to live in a world where big business didn’t run things for their own benefit, but that’s invariably what they do. Unfortunately, there is no way in this society that big business wouldn’t be trying to solely make money for themselves and be influenced by people with high standing.

You want evidence? Come on, really? So do I. It’s not easy to come by mate, if it was, they wouldn’t be as successful as there are, would they?

I don’t know how a person could have followed the sport over the last few years/decades and not seen the obvious blatant advantage the Broncos have gotten through primarily playing on most Friday nights. News Limited owns the Broncos, and are a major player in the television/streaming rights of the NRL, you don’t think that’s a massive conflict of interest? Blind Freddy could see that one, though he’s smart enough to shut his mouth after already stepping in it and Lee having a word or two publicly with him.

You believe what you want, but I hardly think it’s a ‘conspiracy’ to question the integrity of the NRL. Why do you think they created an ‘Integrity Unit’ in the first place? Because they sensed that too many people were starting to question their dubious practices and thought they needed to bolster their image.

Testimonial dinner or game or both anyone? How about a diamond ring for the missus? Nothing to see here.

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@cochise said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@JD-Tiger said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@jadtiger said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@TheDaBoss said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@Hangonaminute said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@Tiger19 said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@Hangonaminute said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

This kid will struggle to go 7 mins in the NRL at this stage of his development.
I don’t expect to see him for 3yrs

I think you’ll be surprised. Will definitely play first grade this year.

How much money have you got to lose?

If he doesn’t play a game this year, my profile image for next season will be a shirtless mitch moses

You are welcome to do that BUT only on the pawwa forum definately not here

Yeah @TheDaBoss why punish us like that mate? If you’re going to make him shirtless in the pic, how about headless also?

So you are happy to look at his body all year, as long as you can’t see his face?

Lol, well no. I didn’t think of that, I just didn’t want to see his face. Maybe without a head, some of the people who like looking at male bodies can pretend its not him, and can enjoy it.

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@jadtiger said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@TheDaBoss said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@Hangonaminute said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@Tiger19 said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

@Hangonaminute said in Tukimihia Simpkins signs, Kane Bradley released:

This kid will struggle to go 7 mins in the NRL at this stage of his development.
I don’t expect to see him for 3yrs

I think you’ll be surprised. Will definitely play first grade this year.

How much money have you got to lose?

If he doesn’t play a game this year, my profile image for next season will be a shirtless mitch moses

You are welcome to do that BUT only on the pawwa forum definately not here

Yeah @TheDaBoss why punish us like that mate? If you’re going to make him shirtless in the pic, how about headless also?

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@Tiger5150 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@JD-Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tiger5150 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Red88_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

If slime settle for mansour will we get Laurie early

That doesnt make sense to me. Can you elaborate on that logic?

I thought it made sense. If Eels get Mansour, it means Panthers get him off their books. Isn’t that what the Panthers want? What do they care who takes him.

It makes sense that Penrith want to get Mansour off their books, but how does it makes sense that it leads to the release of Laurie. If anything it would make sense that they hang onto him. If Mansour leaves they would be short a quality outside back. Makes no sense to let another one go, particularly when Laurie is on a Devt contract and provides depth without impacting the cap.

So if either we take Mansour or Eels do (or another team other than Panthers) , will they still be interested in releasing Laurie? Maybe for a Cini swap it seems?

It makes sense of the Panthers offer us the early release of Laurie as motivation to take Mansour off their books, but to me makes no sense to let Laurie go if Parra take him.

Yeah everything you’ve said there makes sense.

I have read it several times (here and in the speculative media) that if Wests Tigers take Mansour then Panthers may also release Laurie, but I don’t understand why. The reasoning doesn’t make sense to me, for exactly the reasons you’ve stated above.

Hopefully Panthers lose Crichton, or at least another club puts a massive public offer to him and they think they might lose him, maybe then they’ll let Laurie go to make some more room. But even then, probably not, as he’s on a development contract with them, so I don’t think he’s even under their salary cap.

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@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@JD-Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tiger5150 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Red88_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

If slime settle for mansour will we get Laurie early

That doesnt make sense to me. Can you elaborate on that logic?

I thought it made sense. If Eels get Mansour, it means Panthers get him off their books. Isn’t that what the Panthers want? What do they care who takes him.

So if either we take Mansour or Eels do (or another team other than Panthers) , will they still be interested in releasing Laurie? Maybe for a Cini swap it seems?

I don’t see it that way. I think they would have released Laurie to us IF it meant they got rid of Mansour. If Parra or some other club are happy to take Mansour then they have no reason to release Laurie to us whatsoever.

Hopefully we can put an offer for good money to Crichton, that might make them release Laurie early if they think that’ll stop us getting Crichton.

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@Tiger5150 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Red88_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

If slime settle for mansour will we get Laurie early

That doesnt make sense to me. Can you elaborate on that logic?

I thought it made sense. If Eels get Mansour, it means Panthers get him off their books. Isn’t that what the Panthers want? What do they care who takes him.

So if either we take Mansour or Eels do (or another team other than Panthers) , will they still be interested in releasing Laurie? Maybe for a Cini swap it seems?

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Being tough on Panthers is one thing, (must always be!) but for Naden himself, I only hope he has the strength and support in and around him to help him get want he wants. If what he wants is getting off the gear, then I truly hope he does.

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@mike said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

From the first of January 2021 the Nation Anthem word will be changed from:
young and free
To:
one and free

Cool, sounds like a good step.

Here’s to a great 2021, for WTF itself, the forumers, and the mighty Wests Tigers.

Cheers,