I disagree. For too long we have allowed Newscorp to trot all over us. We are always painted as the bad guy. This time we were on the front foot and made sure the narrative was in our favour.
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RE: Gag order required for Hagipantelis and Pascoe
Can't really complain (R11 vs Eels)
That was one of the toughest games we’ve played in years. So much went against us.
- Injuries coming into the game.
- The possession stats were ridiculous. At the start of the second half, we had one set, they had seven sets.
- Michael Chee Kam injury within 60 seconds on the field.
- HIAs to Doueihi (didn’t return) and McIntyre (returned).
Our guys never gave up. I am adamant that was an 80 minute performance. I am very proud of that effort.
Shout out to Shawn Blore on his debut. Showed a lot of promise. My highlight was when Nathan Brown thought he could haze the new kid, and Blore showed him who is boss.
Maguire lifts lid on player power at Tigers
There’s a perception of Michael Maguire that the coach just can’t shake. Nor does he care to.
In the last two seasons, that perception has arguably cost the Wests Tigers the signatures of several big-name stars reluctant to become just another chapter in the story of the intense, ruthless coach who pushes his players to the brink - and sometimes beyond.
Last year, at the risk of losing his job, which has since been secured in the form of a two-year extension, Maguire drove his players beyond their comfort zone. Some turned on him.
“I was aware,” Maguire admitted of the growing unrest in the playing group towards him. “I was well aware. We were pushing boundaries that we hadn’t pushed before. But we have to push the club to a higher level. If we keep doing things the same, we will get the same result.”
When the Herald sat down to interview Maguire recently, it was apparent that little is known about the coach and his interests away from rugby league.
“You probably don’t ask the right questions,” Maguire fires back. “You always want to go to the other stuff. I’ve got plenty of different interests.”
But even when asked the “right questions”, Maguire reverts back to an old school give-em-nothing approach that - for the most part - has served him well throughout his coaching career.
“It’s nothing that I want to share,” he says. But it’s that very demeanour that amplifies a perception that is backed up by the stories of boa constrictors and baseball bats in dressing rooms, or how South Sydney players used to get fined for using certain words in the media.
“If they are doing it on the park, doesn’t that do the talking?” Maguire asks. "I get we need to do our part to promote the game and those sorts of things, but the success on the park is what creates the greatest ride.
"If I see my players successful and the boys enjoying the ride of what happens when you win a grand final, they get to see what’s real. Because I saw a lot of fans [at Souths] enjoying that ride. They are the ones I care about. I saw a lot of Souths fans living in hope. It went from hope to actually believing it. Then it was that belief that helped us achieve it. That’s more special than people knowing about what I do away from footy.
“The players may say certain things about how hard it was, but I tell you when they were doing that lap around that field with the trophy on grand final day, it was a pretty great moment. They are things this club deserves. That’s why I was so keen to come here.”
On day one of pre-season, following a year of stories questioning his coaching methods and their effectiveness on the modern-day footballer, Maguire addressed a squad shorn of over 1000 games of experience. While his demands had previously been met with raised eyebrows by senior players, his audience is now largely receptive.
“I think we all know times have changed and you need to handle each person in a different light,” Maguire said. “But I’m also dealing with men. I’m not dealing with kids here. It is the responsibility of the senior guys to set a tone around what they want to achieve. If they go after that and they set standards, it influences the young ones.
“You’re growing these men to take ownership of what they are doing. We need leaders to help these younger generations realise that life is not easy. There are challenges, but if you fight through those challenges, it’s amazing what you can achieve.”
Maguire won’t go into detail about how his once-strong relationship with Tigers legend Benji Marshall deteriorated after he dropped the five-eighth following the round four loss to the Gold Coast Titans.
But Maguire made no apologies when asked if he made unnecessary changes that ultimately led to the players, in a private team meeting, admitting they were “walking on eggshells” around their coach.
“I’ve come to the club to make it successful,” Maguire said. “Did I make change for stimulation last year? Yeah, I did. At times it worked, at times it didn’t. But if you keep doing the same you’ll end up the same. I think sometimes you have to be able to get people out of their comfort zone to go to another level.”
Some at the Wests Tigers last year - both in the playing group and head office - questioned Maguire’s stomach for the fight when reports emerged that he had thrown his hat in the ring for other jobs.
Maguire admits he questioned his ability to succeed in the task of turning the joint venture into the powerhouse it could be given its membership and junior nursery. But he insists that, in the end, it only strengthened his resolve.
“Along the way people are going to talk and chatter and ask questions,” Maguire said of the speculation that he was looking for another job.
“Did I have thoughts around how large the challenges ahead of me were going to be? Definitely, I’m not going to lie about that. When I sat down and the Wests Tigers became a club that was available to come to, it was the one I actually wanted. I see the size of the club and the momentum that will get behind the Wests Tigers is enormous. I feel that’s coming.
“Have I seen the change as fast as I would have liked? Probably not. There are more challenges in this job than what I’ve experienced before, but we will make this club successful.”
RE: Signing Suggestions & Rumours
Benji’s ego getting in the way of his career. Classic. I still remember when he snobbed the Dragons of a $300K/year deal. They took the deal off the table. Almost immediately after he was asking to sign the deal. The deal was gone, Dragons said they had nothing there for him. That is how he ended up at Brisbane on minimum wage.
He should be grateful he was able to extend his career for as long as he did with us. In my opinion it is he who has disrespected us. The current situation is his own doing. I hope the club has nothing to do with him for a few years. Eventually we will need to patch things up in the name of public relations, but not now.
I am so depressed.
Another season without finals football, and another season with no light at the end of the tunnel. The squad seemed to be improving, then the last few weeks we have rapidly gone backwards. I am totally embarrassed to support this team. When people ask me who I support, I sheepishly say “Tigers”, which is normally followed by a chuckle and a “really?”. This is the earliest in the season I have ever considered switching off from rugby league.
When will our pain end?
RE: Signing Suggestions & Rumours
No big signings is a good thing for us. Trust me we won’t win anything if we continually recruit big money players. Keep at it sign young players with pedigree that want an opportunity. Build a club the kids want to stay at and play for. At some stage the investment in pathways will deliver the players we want at the right price.
Recruitment should only be to strengthen areas we are weaker at and or for experience or leadership to help the young players.
Melbourne haven’t had a big signing since…Ryan Hoffman in 2012 - who was previously at their club, and only left due to the salary cap scandal. Before that, you have to go all the way back to 2006 where they signed Michael Crocker from the Roosters. Two big signings in the last 15 years.
Then you count the number of superstars that came from within their own system…Brandon Smith, Jesse & Kenny Bromwich, Nelson Asofa-Solomona, Cameron Munster, Christian Welch, Justin Olam, Tino Fa’asuamaleaui, Suliasi Vunivalu - all these guys are marquee players at other clubs. Just look at what Tohu Harris is doing at the Warriors. He is arguably the best second rower in the game right now.
They are simply an incredible club. The benchmark in the NRL. If you, as a club, want to be anywhere near their level, you need to be CREATING stars, not buying them. Buying simply moves talent around. Creating means you are adding to the game as a whole. The game would be poorer without Melbourne, just my opinion.
2 games left. Here's how we make the 8.
Warning: No realism allowed here. Delusional folk only.
Here is the situation needed for us to make the top 8.
? Tigers beat Storms
? Tigers beat Eels
? Current top 8 team gets stripped of all points for salary cap cheating
It’s really that easy! See you in finals footy.
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RE: Signing Suggestions & Rumours
Looks like we could have been close to signing Mansour, but I feel we made the right choice
Also seems that Walters is gone next year by the looks of this article.
Billy Walters must see potential in our squad this year. Otherwise I can’t see why he would stick around.
RE: Packer achieves MBA dream
“I tell myself that it won’t end badly, that rugby league will save me again. I believe I am special, the normal rules do not apply to me.”
There is a good insight into the mind of a NRL player with an enormous ego. There are plenty of them running around at the moment. Look what can happen when they are properly punished and educated.
Todd Greenturd has a lot to answer for the current culture off the field of players. He let so much of this slide and even covered a lot of it up.
Packer achieves MBA dream
Embracing reality with brutal honesty: Packer achieves MBA dream
Wed 3 Mar 2021, 02:04 PM
“Life has taught me that I must embrace reality with a brutal honesty if I am to succeed in any domain.”
Those words, inspired by Brene Brown’s book Daring Greatly, were written by Russell Packer as he documented his life story in the final assessment of his Master of Business Administration (Executive).
It’s a sentiment the Wests Tigers prop has embodied since January 5, 2015 - the day he was freed after a year in jail for assault. Through two pillars - football and education - he has redefined himself.
“The ability to accept the pain and discomfort that comes with the truth is essential for any meaningful transformation,” he submitted.
Befitting the way he crashes into defences, Packer has confronted his errors head-on during his well-documented rehabilitation.
The New Zealander doesn’t shy away from talking about the alcohol, drugs, violence and brushes with the law that characterised his upbringing in the small country town of Foxton on the North Island.
But it’s now a far-removed past from which he has grown.
“I want the article to emphasise that there is no sugar-coating the fact that I have made mistakes, that I have been to jail,” he suggests at the end of a candid half-hour interview with NRL.com.
“But more importantly that I have accepted responsibility for my life.”
This is also a story about remarkable achievement and overcoming the odds.
Packer still loves playing rugby league, but the front-rower has qualifications akin to a CEO after completing his MBA last year at the University of NSW’s Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM).
Continue reading here: https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/03/03/embracing-reality-with-brutal-honesty-packer-achieves-mba-dream/
(it’s a good-sized article. Didn’t want to copy paste the whole thing, would be disrespectful to the journalist who put a lot of work into it.)
RE: Signing Suggestions & Rumours
What’s new… Always rubbishing us, surprised wasn’t Slothfield.
TIGERS prove the knuckleheads wrong so we can stick it up them come September.
Can’t wait for the crap that Benchi is going to pay us out with on NRL360.
Fortunately, I don’t have Fox and won’t have to be subjected to it first hand.
NRL360 is literally the Daily Telerag in TV format. You couldn’t pay me to watch it.
I tried watching the season opener and Braith Anasta was struggling to complete his very first sentence. Fox NRL have gone so far downhill. It’s like they are intentionally tanking the value of the game. I guess now that they have signed up so much of 9’s viewership and have no more room for growth they don’t care anymore.
RE: What teams do you see dropping out of the top 8
(1) Panthers, (2) Storm, (4) Roosters, (5) Raiders, (6) Rabbitohs will all hold their spots.
(3) Eels are a maybe. I think they will slide down the ladder and will be a team that just scrapes into 8th place.
(7) Knights I think will drop out. Seem to be a lot of culture problems going on there. We all know how disruptive that kind of stuff can be to a season.
(8) Sharks could potentially hold their spot, but I’m saying no. Every year their roster gets worse, yet they still manage to squeak into the 8. Wouldn’t put it past them to do it again. Depends on their injury list, mainly Shaun Johnson. SJ isn’t expected back for a while, and his last injury was really bad.
RE: 2021 Launch
IKIN’S CONCERN FOR TIGERS
Ben Ikin belives the Wests Tigers are staring at a bottom-four finish.
The Tigers kick off their season by playing the Raiders and Ikin, speaking on the Fox League showcase, said their finals drought is likely to extend.
“Negative,” Ikin said when asked if they would make the top eight. “I’ve got them in the bottom four. I don’t think it’s a strong list. I think Michael Maguire is trying to build something that will bear fruit a year or two years after.
“There’s a couple of clubs in that boat. “But I’ve got them in my bottom four this year.
“I reckon the Tigers will roll through three or four different playmaking combinations which doesn’t set you up for success in the NRL.”
RE: Signing Suggestions & Rumours
So much has changed in just a few months. Looking at the players off contract for 2022, and i can’t see many that would improve our squad. Players like Jake Friend would have got our keen interest, as well as many others, but we have such a strong forward pack now ,i don’t see a vacancy. Our backs have some doubts about them, time will tell, and we have some quality in CC. Who do the forum members think is worth chasing that will be off contract ?
Angus Crighton, Connor Watson, Tohu Harris, Curtis Sironen, Billy Magoulias, Ofahiki Ogden, Jordan Riki, Tesi Niu.
Magoulias and Sironen would be the only ones I could see leaving their current club.