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Thanks for clarifying @MAGPIES1963 but there’s absolutely no need to apologise to me. I more than appreciate this gesture and your response and mannerism. So sincerely thank you

I’m pretty sure most of us are over-anxious by now and while there’s still some uncertainty I know I’m feeling a little excited to what lies ahead. Ofcourse, I’ll be fearing for the worst but as a WT supporter, through and through, I’ll also be hoping for the best.

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@mike said in Benji Marshall:

@Lauren said in Benji Marshall:

@mike said in Benji Marshall:

@Lauren said in Benji Marshall:

@mike said in Benji Marshall:

@Lauren said in Benji Marshall:

@MAGPIES1963 said in Benji Marshall:

@mike said in Benji Marshall:

Again I’ll state that I love Benji and will always be grateful for all the excitement he has provided and he is a true Wests Tigers legend but… and it’s a big but he has seriously lost the plot.

If Benji truely has the best interest of the club at heart he should of just shut up and said nothing. But he couldn’t, it had to be about how he was treated. It’s all about Benji and I’m afraid to say I for one am glad your time playing for the club has come to an end. It’s no longer about what is best for Benji but what is best for the Wests Tigers and that is a Wests Tigers without Benji playing there.

G’day @mike: A friends daughter was one of the Wests Tigers dancing/cheer girls around 2007, and she said then Benji was full of himself.
From what I know about people like Benji, needing to be the centre of attention in some cases stems from an insecure childhood, and that insecurity has never been treated.
And that’s a real pity as it can stuff up every day of your life.

I find this comment a little inappropriate to have on the forum. Think there’s absolute no need to bring someone’s childhood into it, kids can’t control what’s happening around them.

I think that is exactly what @MAGPIES1963 is saying.

It sounds like a psychoanalysis of someone based upon their upbringing and inadvertently brings parenting skills into it though and shouldn’t be brought upp in discussion on a footy forum.

Reading way too much into it.

The comment specifically takes aim at his ego and also speculates whether it developed from an “insecure” childhood. That statement absolutely suggests an opinion of the unhealthy formation of his emotional and/or psychological state through his upbringing, and whether intentional or not ofcourse it indirectly brings the parenting skills into it.
The construction of it gives it no other meaning.

There’s presently a real ugly attitude toward Benji on the forum and not all of it is footy related.
I’m mostly in agreeance with anything footy related or re:the current media circus, yet I’m a bit perplexed as to why this type of topic isn’t off limits on the forum.

You always have the foe option at your disposal if you don’t like what people are saying.

Cheers @mike though I actually don’t like to consider anyone a foe on here. Let’s call it a truce…for now anyway😛
FYI while I may not agree with everything I’m weirdly the type of person who would not be able to do that to someone on here. I respect each opinion and like reading everyone’s opinion no matter how different they are.

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@steve-o said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

We need a Credo. The below is not perfect and someone can do a better job, but something along the lines of…

Our first responsibility is to ensure Wests Tigers are a club that members and fans can be proud to support. We need to honour the history of our foundation clubs, and forge a united identity for our merged entity.

We have a responsibility to ensure players, football, and admin staff have a safe and secure working environment. We need to ensure all employees feel satisfaction in their the jobs, and reward good performance.

We have a responsibility to our Wests Tigers community - our sponsors, leagues clubs, and the NRL, to stand up for what is right and conduct ourselves with professionalism.

If we do these things, winning will take care of itself. If we attract and retain the games’ best players, works our hearts out, and qualify for finals, we will achieve PREMIERSHIP GLORY.

Just looked at that vision statement and besides thinking it’s not very concise, it also highlights the club’s neglect in honouring our two foundation teams.
Don’t think it would be as much of an issue if we were able to produce success in all areas or if we weren’t regarded as the NRLs nomads. But I think it’s important in establishing a more solidified identity. It also helps strengthens community engagement and is fundamental to establishing pride and respect for our heritage - and Jersey.

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Have said it before, but I believe the corporate  identity and culture of the club is badly tarnished and the failure to successfully recover from this, by now, is because(like someone else said) we’re still pulling out the weeds and it’s still a work in progress.
Bandaid solutions were always the go to methods used by the club and the avalanche of setbacks we’ve faced means the dysfunction was either a)Deeply embedded in the club or b)They were simply failing to get to the root causes.

But if you ask me it’s what you’ve hinted at,
the skewed or confused perception of the club’s core values and vision and club’s terse management style,
that has been most detrimental and is presently our bigger issue.
Fans rightfully feel in the dark because we don’t have a sense of transparency, accountability and integrity from the club. Plus also because we don’t have a clearer vision of our values and the club’s future goals - which includes identity.

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@voice_of_reason said in A Rugby League record to the WT:

@Lauren said in A Rugby League record to the WT:

While I agree this should have little emphasis when taking this year’s point-scoring into account, I do however think it seriously needs to be taken into account(for us) in working on our shortcomings.

I agree our defence has been average this year, but in years past we may have only conceded 12 or 16 instead of 26 with the new rules. Giving us a ‘record’ with moving goal posts is meaningless.

It’s like comparing the scoring with unlimited tackle, 4 tackle and six tackle rules. Doesn’t make sense to me.

This is why I find it pointless. As its noncomparable in reference - in an uncharted (competition) year.
If they apply our attacking statistics it would also indicate our poor execution and show it’s influence on our overall performances.
I felt most of our conceded tries were equally due to how error prone we were. Our inability to gain field position in crucial periods constantly had us on the back foot, this year.

Think our wrestling and numbers in defence needs work but I’m also acutely aware of how easily we overturned possession and we need to modify this area of our game.
But I agree with your original comments and feel this statistical method fails to address or correctly analyse all facts/information.

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@voice_of_reason said in A Rugby League record to the WT:

It’s a meaningless (although undesirable) stat given how the game has changed this year.

The new rules heavily favour the team in possession and momentum snowballs resulting in higher scores. I’d suggest a high percentage of games this years have seen >40 points scored. Just this week there’s been 48, 42, 68, 42, 66 and 52 points.

While I agree this should have little emphasis when taking this year’s point-scoring into account, I do however think it seriously needs to be taken into account(for us) in working on our shortcomings.
But yeah the way in which Vossy blurted it out was just another potshot IMO.