@TigerWest said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@The_Doc said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

I dont see any upside to Mansour, he’s well past his best and all it will do is stagnate the development of our young guys vying for the other wing spot which we are well covered for. AJ, Talau & even Momo he’s not needed not even to grant Laurie an early release dumb play if theres any truth to it imo.

You’re right, but we don’t have a lot of experience in the backs to show the kids what’s needed to make it?

I haven’t really followed Mansour but I believe he was injured this year, I think he is 30 so still has a year or 2 in him, he is/was a good player, must have been OK, he played in the GF didn’t he?

Timana Tahu has joined Us as a ‘backs coach’ as well as a mentor for any Indigenous guys we have playing for Us.

@Snake said in Luke Brooks:

Brooks has been in the top grade for 7 seasons !!! Brooks is not a competitor when will this sink in .
This team is going now where with Brooks in the halves … This club needs to wake up ! You want to break the culture of losing well sign a couple of players that demand to win!
For gods sake there Is a reason the club has not played finals footy for so long it’s as easy to see as a boil on a back side !

G’day @Snake : according to the stats supplied by @willow, the smallest bloke in our Wests Tigers team Luke Brooks registered 23 tackles against Canberra which was the highest of any of our 1 to 7…and why was that? because they ran at him, and as usual he didn’t shirk in bringin em down.
I’m only able to watch the game on my mobile phone so I obviously miss out on a fair bit of the action, but I did see him stop the biggest bloke on the field Josh Papalli with a perfect legs tackle close to our line and probably saved a certain try.
When you have Brooks doing more than his fair share of tackling, surely he cant be expected to run the ball as we would like him to do.
I do agree though that Brooks hasn’t improved in attack the way we would have hoped.
We don’t hide Brooks in defence as Parra do with the slimiest Eel of all…Mitch Moses…maybe we should, but if we do who is going to step up to do extra defence in the middle.
Brooks is not our main problem.
As well as we played yesterday, the main problem is… our team as a whole just isn’t strong enough.

You are 100% correct @mike : Our Club is on its way to becoming the ‘Powerhouse’ of the West, slowly but surely. Right now Yuh wouldn’t wanna be dead for quids. I’m 72 going on 73 and I reckon Our Wests Tigers will win a couple of premierships at least before it’s my time to fall off the perch .

@finnzo said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

I think we should offer Brandon Elliot a 1 year contract he is a great utility and always tries his hardest

With respect @finnzo : are you a school teacher?, as it sounds you are handing out an end of year report card.

@Hangonaminute said in Opinions on players:

@GNR4LIFE said in Opinions on players:

@Honkylips said in Opinions on players:

@Jedi_Tiger said in Opinions on players:

If Brooks was in the storm or Broncos system he would be flying and close to origin put him in the big Parra team and he plays better than Moses. He is a solid half certainly better than Ben Hunt

No he wouldn’t. He’s hopeless. You could have Wally Lewis next to him and he would still battle.

You sure about that? Everyone said Moses was hopeless too. Don’t underestimate how flawed our system is compared to some other clubs

Moses has always been better than Brooks

Just hang on a minute @Hangonaminute: doesn’t it depend on the criteria of what you are judging Brooks and Moses on. If you consider the tackling ability of both…Brooks comes out well on top…example…the game against South’s last year when he irritated Burgess so much, Burgess got aggressive towards him.
Moses on a good day is admittedly better than Brooks in attack, but I reckon a bad day for Brooks is much better than a bad day for Moses, particularly when he is having one of his tantrums.
So imo Brooks is the better player.

G’day @teddy23 : to use your words," if I was in charge of recruitment"/player retention I would be telling Robbie Farah his services are no longer required IN ANY WAY once his contract is finished. He will be recorded as a great Tigers player obviously but in my opinion, he will also be recorded as a huge pain in the a…e. Along with his mate Michelle Moses , they caused so much damage to our Wests Tigers we are still recovering and will be for some time to come. Personally, I admire Jason Taylor for having the strength to stand up to Robbie and I believe Jason was chosen as coach for that very reason. I also believe Tedesco and Woods would still be at the Tigers today but they weren’t able to avoid being led astray by Farah and Moses as they all had the same manager. And for that reason, I feel they may well both return to the Tigers one day in the near future.

@fibrodreaming said in Harry Grant:

@innsaneink said in Harry Grant:

What a great org the NRL is… You can walk out on clubs and leave them in a mess… You can lie thru your back teeth and bring the game into disrepute and you will be rewarded handsomely.

You’r right of course, but I think the immorality of it goes even deeper than that.

He destroyed the medium term prospects of an organisation and then left it to head up another organisation that is in direct competiton. Effectively he is a saboteur - he certainly sabotaged our chances in the medium term and thereby improved his own team’s chances of success.

Well said @fibrodreaming : whenever I see the Cleary’s on tv or hear them on my tranny…I wanna spew!!!
They are dethspicable!!!

@cochise: Chris Lawrence is a perfect example of devotion to our club, and look at the disrespectful way he has been referred to by many of our forumers, as well as by the club itself.

This is just a guess, but I reckon now that V’landys is in charge of the N.R.L., the Wacky Woosters have realised they are in deep salary cap wise and have to offload someone urgently, and Lattrell is possibly the most convenient to move along.

When he was mentioned on here some time back, I said “no thanks”, better to be conservative, but recent positive posts have changed my mind about him coming to Wests Tigers.

After some deep and meaningful discussions with myself, I reckon Lattrell will be a much better fit here with Us in Leichhardt, Ashfield, Homebush, Campbelltown and Tamworth than with those hoity-toity upper crust late sipping la-dee-dahs in the Wacky suburbs.

Plus…he ‘could’ be an excitement machine…just the sort of player we need to build a better future around… but for a million + bucks a season??

If he does come here, it’ll be because Madge wants him here…and that’s good enough for me… as I have faith in Madge.

Happy Christmas to all out there in our Jungle , and to those not in our Jungle …bad luck…but look on the bright side as there is always next year. But Happy Christmas to you anyway

@Juro said in Could Bulldogs Game Be a Watershed Moment?:

I thought it was a great effort last night, but we must remember that there were a few tries which came directly from Bulldogs errors.

1. Grant’s try off Bulldogs failing to clean up the kick
2. Talau’s try off Bulldogs dropped bomb
3. Nofo’s try off intercept

If the Bulldogs had played better, those opportunities would not have been there. Other teams will not be so generous!

We won because our players were in the right place at the right time to put pressure on the Bulldogs players to make errors, then being in the right place to take advantage of those errors.
The Bulldogs didn’t lose the game, Wests Tigers won the game.

@krissy said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

Mate no need to apologise, believe me I understand the impact depression can have, I apologise if I added to that yesterday as that is the last thing I would ever want to do.

If you ever need anything feel free to reach out.

THIS is why I love this forum, people can disagree, apologise and support each other.
Both you guys just showed how kindness matters and what beautiful people you are.
We all love our football but at the end of the day it is just a game and life has far greater challenges to deal with. Depression is a real demon and you never know what someone might be dealing with in the real world, be kind.
Proud of you guys.

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@magpies1963 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@happy_tiger said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@formerguest said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

Too tired after thousands of kilometres on the road in the past week to read through this and catch up, so a short run-down on where this bid is at please anyone?

No new news since last week mate, WA board was apparently meeting tonight to discuss the offer

Didn’t a meeting happen last night ??

I wrote that last night

G’day @cochise My apologies for yesterdays rant
Depression for a number of reasons got the better of me
It wont happen again

Mate no need to apologise, believe me I understand the impact depression can have, I apologise if I added to that yesterday as that is the last thing I would ever want to do.

If you ever need anything feel free to reach out.

Thanks @cochise you’ve given me exactly what I need rite now ie a virtual cuddle

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@happy_tiger said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@formerguest said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

Too tired after thousands of kilometres on the road in the past week to read through this and catch up, so a short run-down on where this bid is at please anyone?

No new news since last week mate, WA board was apparently meeting tonight to discuss the offer

Didn’t a meeting happen last night ??

I wrote that last night

G’day @cochise My apologies for yesterdays rant
Depression for a number of reasons got the better of me
It wont happen again

@truetiger said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@watersider said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

I questioned dropping Benji last year as something that was big risk and might lose the playing group. I feel worse about moving Doueihi. I just think it’s the wrong move against the wrong player. I’ve supported Madge but I don’t agree with this.

There’s nothing in Mbye’s play that suggests he’s a good option at 5/8. I like him playing lock as an extra passer in the middle, but that was with two halves who can control the game. Giving him 5/8 responsibilities is a terrible idea, he lacks the craft to lead a team. Plus, Doueihi is our best kicker and our most intelligent player.

If Madge had a problem with how he was playing he should have worked with him on that.

Tamou has been better the last few weeks but it pisses me off that Joey Leuilua, Moses Mbye, Luke Brooks, James Tamou and Luke Garner have fallen into our side rather than earnt a spot due to excellent form and effort, while Stefano, simpkin and Doueihi are the ones getting shuffled or dropped. I can understand why those lackadaisical players are in our side, but not when players putting in more can’t make it.

I don’t care about the result, that’s really poor, Madge.

I think when you said Mbye was great at lock between to halves that can control the game you surely didnt mean between Brooks and Douhie ?
Brooks who has proven he cant control the team over many years and AD is just learning…Mbye was a renowned playmaker at the Dogs before Ivan offered him a motsa to come here,since he has been here he has been shifted from pillar to post,FB,Centre,Lock utility off the bench and you dont even want to let him have a chance to prove that he can play 5/8…
Another question for you…AD has huge respect for Madge,dont you think the they both would have discussed the move of himself and Mbye during this weeks video sessions and training for the benefit of the team ???

@lauren said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

Understand why Luke’s ability as a game manager has come into question. But to diminish his ability as a footy player by ridiculing his entire NRL career, is a whole new level of toxic. Same goes with the barrage of anger toward his selection.
I’ve seen him be lambasted from pillar to post (this week on the forum) but to deflect things out of his control or unrelated to his performances, onto him, is a little much.

Sensible post in the middle of a heap of negativity re Luke Brooks @Lauren

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@magpies1963 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@magpies1963 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@magpies1963 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@jirskyr said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@tbones10 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@jirskyr said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

For the record I’m not really for or against Benny trying to buy up half of WT.

What I do find interesting is there’s been a lot of commentary this year about what Tigers can do differently, given a whole host of coaches, managers, CEOs, staff, players have tried to lift the club to reasonably consistent success, and failed to do so.

It is generally agreed that one of the few consistencies throughout this period has been the board, notwithstanding the Wets 90% buyout of recent years putting it much more firmly in the Wests Ashfield court. We haven’t really changed the Board much, aside from the Chairperson.

And a bloke comes along to suggest to buy a stake and shake things up a bit… and the forum reaction appears to be 99% negative. Here’s your chance to shake things up folks, we can hardly do much worse on the NRL Ladder or our finals success record. If you are an advocate for shaking up the club structure and ownership, Benny is probably the only bloke who is going to make an offer this side of 2040 (pun intended). Take it or leave it, but if you leave it, you’ll need to abandon your complaints about things Wests Ashfield might do in the future.

Hi jirskyr I like that you are looking deeper into it than most, even doing that it still doesn’t change the fact that 99.9% of members and fans alike don’t trust him. Phenomenal player that he was, it doesn’t change the articles that we have read and the stories we have heard.
It also doesn’t help he is trying to get involved when the club is well and truly on the rise. The club is going great financially, juniors are firing (2nd in Reggies and Flegg and 4th in the Harold Matts and Tarsha Gale) the $75mil COE is opening shortly, structure and value is being added to all levels of the club and he wants to buy a majority share for what is rumoured to be next years salary cap. During the Taylor and big four era I might have thought about it, but he wasn’t there through the bad times, now there is light at the end of the tunnel and he wants in. Go to buggery Ben.

So it appears then, dislike for Benny over-rules desires for change at the top.

It’s just interesting to me, because I would had said 50% or more folks would have been interested in a board change after the 2021 season to date. For example, if someone said Dennis Burgess or Simon Cook were stepping down next week, I’m predicting most everyone would quite enthusiastic about a shake-up, not actually having any idea if Dennis or Simon know their stuff, nor who the replacement may be.

But a suggestion of Ben Elias trying to buy a seat, those same folks - aka “everyone” - against it.

It is possible to want changes at board level but to still prefer the current set up to Benny’s involvement.

Its kind of like the republican vote in the 99, a lot of people wanted a republic but weren’t happy with the model put forward so voted no in the referendum.

I would like change at board level but wouldn’t be happy with Benny’s involvement so would prefer to keep the current model.

G’day @cochise : this post by you is a meek weak meow, a say next to nothing attitude in support? of our Wests Tigers club… as it stands now.

What happened to the ferocious tiger from about 18 months ago when I first joined our forum, that roared with anger when you mistakenly jumped to the conclusion that I was attempting to put a giant wedge between your beloved Balmain Tigers and my beloved Wests Magpies?

What happened to that ferocious tiger that roared with anger and was prepared to die… for the Wests Tigers, as the club was then, due to his life long and never ending love and passion for the Wests Tigers… as it was then?

We currently have a situation where a very poor example of a human being commonly known as ‘back door Benny’ and his band of faceless men have a burning desire to take control of Wests Tigers.
As admittedly a truly great player for Balmain Tigers, his never ending love for the Balmain Tigers is his sole reason for the need to control…Wow!!!

He even tells us [it has nothing to do with the need to accumulate personal $$$] there is no profit to be made out of sporting clubs…Wow!!!

What a truly unique person he is!!!

The fact he is from the Balmain side of our sporting partnership…do you consider if this goes ahead, this could be the actual giant wedge that breaks the Wests Tigers back?

A couple of sporting personalities with a lot more integrity than ‘back door Benny’ have suggested there is a need for a NRL team to be centered in Campbelltown, and have further suggested Wests Tigers should locate there and once again become known as Wests Magpies.
What’s your opinion on this?

Firstly, I am not going to rehash rubbish from 18 months ago as I am not a person that holds a grudge, unlike others apparently.

I have made in clear that I do not want Benny Elias involved in anyway with the Wests Tigers, a structure where he is involved in our club puts us on a path to the clubs demise. I don’t care what side of the merger he comes from he is shonky as. I also want something to change in this club, I don’t think the current board structure is working and that is not because it is a Wests Ashfield controlled board, it is because our club continues to be a mess that is ran like an amateur club.

Now for some reason you consider me a Balmain fan, I am not a Balmain, I am a Wests Tigers fan. I will take issue with anyone that tries to destabalise the Wests Tigers and have told users on this forum in the last week to pull their heads in because they were pushing Balmain v Magpies agendas.

Now I will address your last paragraph which I find to be disgusting, you are agitating for the breakdown of the Wests Tigers so you can have your ‘beloved’ Wests Magpies back. I do not want the Wests Magpies to return, nor do I wish to see the Balmain Tigers to return, I am a Wests Tigers supporter and wouldn’t have it any other way. It is just a shame that after 21 years there are still people who wish to see their failed clubs returned, I am happy with the current failed club I support.

Wow, I’ve really hit a nerve here haven’t I Cochise.

For you to tell me I am holding a grudge is just wrong and I resent that accusation.

I was merely pointing out the difference in your attitude from then till now, so I suggest… you pull your head in mate.

It’s amazing to me how you read things and interpret it a certain way, as that is the way you want it to be.
Leo Tolstoy said : “the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him”.

Something else you have misinterpreted.
I didn’t say you were a current Balmain fan, but it was obvious even 18 months ago you were prev a Balmain supporter as I was a Wests Magpies supporter.
I in fact said…"what happened to that ferocious tiger that roared with anger and was prepared to die…for the Wests Tigers.

So dont twist my words Cochise, to make something out of nothing to suit your ego.

Then to accuse me of trying to destabilise Wests Tigers is just rubbish.

If you are prepared to read my post with an open mind and heart, you will realise that nowhere have I pushed a Balmain V Magpies agenda.

You will also realise that no where in my post have I agitated for a breakdown of the Wests Tigers so I can have my beloved Wests Magpies back.

I am also a Wests Tigers supporter Cochise, and I think its an even bigger shame that after 21 years you are so insecure that you need to dump your frustration on others.

What are you on about mate? Your original post was baiting, you literally stated there are people calling for the return of the Wests Magpies. Then asked my opinion, my opinion is that it is disgusting that you would even raise it.

Mate I have also called out as many people pushing Balmain agendas as I have Magpies.

It does appear you hold a grudge as you raised me questioning you 18 months ago lol.

You’ve twisted my words again Cochise.
My wife does that and it’s a very unfair debating tactic.

I never used the word called for.

I said “a couple of sporting personalities [Brad Fittler being one] suggested there is a need for a NRL team to be centered in Campbelltown, and have further suggested Wests Tigers should locate there and once again be known as the Wests Magpies”.

I think you will agree ‘called for’ is a much stronger term than suggested, therefore called for has stronger implications.

And what’s wrong with someone suggesting something. It was a point of discussion on a football show for goodness sake, and I was interested to know your opinion.

I would have hoped that you as an Admin of this forum would be more open minded, but as soon as the word Magpies is seen, you go all goggle eyed by saying you think it is disgusting that I should even raise it on Wests Tigers Forum.

You’ve shown us you have a sense of humour from your “I hate Magpies thread”…lighten up a bit Cochise…you’ll feel much better for it.

Mate I have no problem with the Wests Magpies, I watch them play whenever I can I even stuck up for them in the last week when someone suggested they shouldn’t be the reserve grade side. Your entire post was having a go at me because in your opinion I didn’t go hard enough about Benny compared to when you raised Wests v Balmain arguments. I have never seen Brad Fittler advocate for the return of the Magpies, that may be because I don’t listen to his poor take on the majority of issues.

I know the game you are playing here and I am done being sucked in.

Yeh fair enough Cochise
But once again you are using a word advocate
that has a stronger meaning than the original word I used suggest.
To my knowledge Fittler wasn’t supporting anothers cause or advocating on behalf of anyone.

@hank37w said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

All I can say is piss off Benny, you are that dodgy that you would probably try selling Concord Oval off to Canada Bay Council.

While he’s at it probably try selling the State Government the harbour Bridge as well.

@tigerbalm said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@magpies1963 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@jirskyr said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@tbones10 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@jirskyr said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

For the record I’m not really for or against Benny trying to buy up half of WT.

What I do find interesting is there’s been a lot of commentary this year about what Tigers can do differently, given a whole host of coaches, managers, CEOs, staff, players have tried to lift the club to reasonably consistent success, and failed to do so.

It is generally agreed that one of the few consistencies throughout this period has been the board, notwithstanding the Wets 90% buyout of recent years putting it much more firmly in the Wests Ashfield court. We haven’t really changed the Board much, aside from the Chairperson.

And a bloke comes along to suggest to buy a stake and shake things up a bit… and the forum reaction appears to be 99% negative. Here’s your chance to shake things up folks, we can hardly do much worse on the NRL Ladder or our finals success record. If you are an advocate for shaking up the club structure and ownership, Benny is probably the only bloke who is going to make an offer this side of 2040 (pun intended). Take it or leave it, but if you leave it, you’ll need to abandon your complaints about things Wests Ashfield might do in the future.

Hi jirskyr I like that you are looking deeper into it than most, even doing that it still doesn’t change the fact that 99.9% of members and fans alike don’t trust him. Phenomenal player that he was, it doesn’t change the articles that we have read and the stories we have heard.
It also doesn’t help he is trying to get involved when the club is well and truly on the rise. The club is going great financially, juniors are firing (2nd in Reggies and Flegg and 4th in the Harold Matts and Tarsha Gale) the $75mil COE is opening shortly, structure and value is being added to all levels of the club and he wants to buy a majority share for what is rumoured to be next years salary cap. During the Taylor and big four era I might have thought about it, but he wasn’t there through the bad times, now there is light at the end of the tunnel and he wants in. Go to buggery Ben.

So it appears then, dislike for Benny over-rules desires for change at the top.

It’s just interesting to me, because I would had said 50% or more folks would have been interested in a board change after the 2021 season to date. For example, if someone said Dennis Burgess or Simon Cook were stepping down next week, I’m predicting most everyone would quite enthusiastic about a shake-up, not actually having any idea if Dennis or Simon know their stuff, nor who the replacement may be.

But a suggestion of Ben Elias trying to buy a seat, those same folks - aka “everyone” - against it.

It is possible to want changes at board level but to still prefer the current set up to Benny’s involvement.

Its kind of like the republican vote in the 99, a lot of people wanted a republic but weren’t happy with the model put forward so voted no in the referendum.

I would like change at board level but wouldn’t be happy with Benny’s involvement so would prefer to keep the current model.

G’day @cochise : this post by you is a meek weak meow, a say next to nothing attitude in support? of our Wests Tigers club… as it stands now.

What happened to the ferocious tiger from about 18 months ago when I first joined our forum, that roared with anger when you mistakenly jumped to the conclusion that I was attempting to put a giant wedge between your beloved Balmain Tigers and my beloved Wests Magpies?

What happened to that ferocious tiger that roared with anger and was prepared to die… for the Wests Tigers, as the club was then, due to his life long and never ending love and passion for the Wests Tigers… as it was then?

We currently have a situation where a very poor example of a human being commonly known as ‘back door Benny’ and his band of faceless men have a burning desire to take control of Wests Tigers.
As admittedly a truly great player for Balmain Tigers, his never ending love for the Balmain Tigers is his sole reason for the need to control…Wow!!!

He even tells us [it has nothing to do with the need to accumulate personal $$$] there is no profit to be made out of sporting clubs…Wow!!!

What a truly unique person he is!!!

The fact he is from the Balmain side of our sporting partnership…do you consider if this goes ahead, this could be the actual giant wedge that breaks the Wests Tigers back?

A couple of sporting personalities with a lot more integrity than ‘back door Benny’ have suggested there is a need for a NRL team to be centered in Campbelltown, and have further suggested Wests Tigers should locate there and once again become known as Wests Magpies.
What’s your opinion on this?

Odd post. ruok?

Fine thanks

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@magpies1963 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@magpies1963 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@cochise said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@jirskyr said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@tbones10 said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

@jirskyr said in Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers:

For the record I’m not really for or against Benny trying to buy up half of WT.

What I do find interesting is there’s been a lot of commentary this year about what Tigers can do differently, given a whole host of coaches, managers, CEOs, staff, players have tried to lift the club to reasonably consistent success, and failed to do so.

It is generally agreed that one of the few consistencies throughout this period has been the board, notwithstanding the Wets 90% buyout of recent years putting it much more firmly in the Wests Ashfield court. We haven’t really changed the Board much, aside from the Chairperson.

And a bloke comes along to suggest to buy a stake and shake things up a bit… and the forum reaction appears to be 99% negative. Here’s your chance to shake things up folks, we can hardly do much worse on the NRL Ladder or our finals success record. If you are an advocate for shaking up the club structure and ownership, Benny is probably the only bloke who is going to make an offer this side of 2040 (pun intended). Take it or leave it, but if you leave it, you’ll need to abandon your complaints about things Wests Ashfield might do in the future.

Hi jirskyr I like that you are looking deeper into it than most, even doing that it still doesn’t change the fact that 99.9% of members and fans alike don’t trust him. Phenomenal player that he was, it doesn’t change the articles that we have read and the stories we have heard.
It also doesn’t help he is trying to get involved when the club is well and truly on the rise. The club is going great financially, juniors are firing (2nd in Reggies and Flegg and 4th in the Harold Matts and Tarsha Gale) the $75mil COE is opening shortly, structure and value is being added to all levels of the club and he wants to buy a majority share for what is rumoured to be next years salary cap. During the Taylor and big four era I might have thought about it, but he wasn’t there through the bad times, now there is light at the end of the tunnel and he wants in. Go to buggery Ben.

So it appears then, dislike for Benny over-rules desires for change at the top.

It’s just interesting to me, because I would had said 50% or more folks would have been interested in a board change after the 2021 season to date. For example, if someone said Dennis Burgess or Simon Cook were stepping down next week, I’m predicting most everyone would quite enthusiastic about a shake-up, not actually having any idea if Dennis or Simon know their stuff, nor who the replacement may be.

But a suggestion of Ben Elias trying to buy a seat, those same folks - aka “everyone” - against it.

It is possible to want changes at board level but to still prefer the current set up to Benny’s involvement.

Its kind of like the republican vote in the 99, a lot of people wanted a republic but weren’t happy with the model put forward so voted no in the referendum.

I would like change at board level but wouldn’t be happy with Benny’s involvement so would prefer to keep the current model.

G’day @cochise : this post by you is a meek weak meow, a say next to nothing attitude in support? of our Wests Tigers club… as it stands now.

What happened to the ferocious tiger from about 18 months ago when I first joined our forum, that roared with anger when you mistakenly jumped to the conclusion that I was attempting to put a giant wedge between your beloved Balmain Tigers and my beloved Wests Magpies?

What happened to that ferocious tiger that roared with anger and was prepared to die… for the Wests Tigers, as the club was then, due to his life long and never ending love and passion for the Wests Tigers… as it was then?

We currently have a situation where a very poor example of a human being commonly known as ‘back door Benny’ and his band of faceless men have a burning desire to take control of Wests Tigers.
As admittedly a truly great player for Balmain Tigers, his never ending love for the Balmain Tigers is his sole reason for the need to control…Wow!!!

He even tells us [it has nothing to do with the need to accumulate personal $$$] there is no profit to be made out of sporting clubs…Wow!!!

What a truly unique person he is!!!

The fact he is from the Balmain side of our sporting partnership…do you consider if this goes ahead, this could be the actual giant wedge that breaks the Wests Tigers back?

A couple of sporting personalities with a lot more integrity than ‘back door Benny’ have suggested there is a need for a NRL team to be centered in Campbelltown, and have further suggested Wests Tigers should locate there and once again become known as Wests Magpies.
What’s your opinion on this?

Firstly, I am not going to rehash rubbish from 18 months ago as I am not a person that holds a grudge, unlike others apparently.

I have made in clear that I do not want Benny Elias involved in anyway with the Wests Tigers, a structure where he is involved in our club puts us on a path to the clubs demise. I don’t care what side of the merger he comes from he is shonky as. I also want something to change in this club, I don’t think the current board structure is working and that is not because it is a Wests Ashfield controlled board, it is because our club continues to be a mess that is ran like an amateur club.

Now for some reason you consider me a Balmain fan, I am not a Balmain, I am a Wests Tigers fan. I will take issue with anyone that tries to destabalise the Wests Tigers and have told users on this forum in the last week to pull their heads in because they were pushing Balmain v Magpies agendas.

Now I will address your last paragraph which I find to be disgusting, you are agitating for the breakdown of the Wests Tigers so you can have your ‘beloved’ Wests Magpies back. I do not want the Wests Magpies to return, nor do I wish to see the Balmain Tigers to return, I am a Wests Tigers supporter and wouldn’t have it any other way. It is just a shame that after 21 years there are still people who wish to see their failed clubs returned, I am happy with the current failed club I support.

Wow, I’ve really hit a nerve here haven’t I Cochise.

For you to tell me I am holding a grudge is just wrong and I resent that accusation.

I was merely pointing out the difference in your attitude from then till now, so I suggest… you pull your head in mate.

It’s amazing to me how you read things and interpret it a certain way, as that is the way you want it to be.
Leo Tolstoy said : “the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him”.

Something else you have misinterpreted.
I didn’t say you were a current Balmain fan, but it was obvious even 18 months ago you were prev a Balmain supporter as I was a Wests Magpies supporter.
I in fact said…"what happened to that ferocious tiger that roared with anger and was prepared to die…for the Wests Tigers.

So dont twist my words Cochise, to make something out of nothing to suit your ego.

Then to accuse me of trying to destabilise Wests Tigers is just rubbish.

If you are prepared to read my post with an open mind and heart, you will realise that nowhere have I pushed a Balmain V Magpies agenda.

You will also realise that no where in my post have I agitated for a breakdown of the Wests Tigers so I can have my beloved Wests Magpies back.

I am also a Wests Tigers supporter Cochise, and I think its an even bigger shame that after 21 years you are so insecure that you need to dump your frustration on others.

What are you on about mate? Your original post was baiting, you literally stated there are people calling for the return of the Wests Magpies. Then asked my opinion, my opinion is that it is disgusting that you would even raise it.

Mate I have also called out as many people pushing Balmain agendas as I have Magpies.

It does appear you hold a grudge as you raised me questioning you 18 months ago lol.

You’ve twisted my words again Cochise.
My wife does that and it’s a very unfair debating tactic.

I never used the word called for.

I said “a couple of sporting personalities [Brad Fittler being one] suggested there is a need for a NRL team to be centered in Campbelltown, and have further suggested Wests Tigers should locate there and once again be known as the Wests Magpies”.

I think you will agree ‘called for’ is a much stronger term than suggested, therefore called for has stronger implications.

And what’s wrong with someone suggesting something. It was a point of discussion on a football show for goodness sake, and I was interested to know your opinion.

I would have hoped that you as an Admin of this forum would be more open minded, but as soon as the word Magpies is seen, you go all goggle eyed by saying you think it is disgusting that I should even raise it on Wests Tigers Forum.

You’ve shown us you have a sense of humour from your “I hate Magpies thread”…lighten up a bit Cochise…you’ll feel much better for it.

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For the record I’m not really for or against Benny trying to buy up half of WT.

What I do find interesting is there’s been a lot of commentary this year about what Tigers can do differently, given a whole host of coaches, managers, CEOs, staff, players have tried to lift the club to reasonably consistent success, and failed to do so.

It is generally agreed that one of the few consistencies throughout this period has been the board, notwithstanding the Wets 90% buyout of recent years putting it much more firmly in the Wests Ashfield court. We haven’t really changed the Board much, aside from the Chairperson.

And a bloke comes along to suggest to buy a stake and shake things up a bit… and the forum reaction appears to be 99% negative. Here’s your chance to shake things up folks, we can hardly do much worse on the NRL Ladder or our finals success record. If you are an advocate for shaking up the club structure and ownership, Benny is probably the only bloke who is going to make an offer this side of 2040 (pun intended). Take it or leave it, but if you leave it, you’ll need to abandon your complaints about things Wests Ashfield might do in the future.

Hi jirskyr I like that you are looking deeper into it than most, even doing that it still doesn’t change the fact that 99.9% of members and fans alike don’t trust him. Phenomenal player that he was, it doesn’t change the articles that we have read and the stories we have heard.
It also doesn’t help he is trying to get involved when the club is well and truly on the rise. The club is going great financially, juniors are firing (2nd in Reggies and Flegg and 4th in the Harold Matts and Tarsha Gale) the $75mil COE is opening shortly, structure and value is being added to all levels of the club and he wants to buy a majority share for what is rumoured to be next years salary cap. During the Taylor and big four era I might have thought about it, but he wasn’t there through the bad times, now there is light at the end of the tunnel and he wants in. Go to buggery Ben.

So it appears then, dislike for Benny over-rules desires for change at the top.

It’s just interesting to me, because I would had said 50% or more folks would have been interested in a board change after the 2021 season to date. For example, if someone said Dennis Burgess or Simon Cook were stepping down next week, I’m predicting most everyone would quite enthusiastic about a shake-up, not actually having any idea if Dennis or Simon know their stuff, nor who the replacement may be.

But a suggestion of Ben Elias trying to buy a seat, those same folks - aka “everyone” - against it.

It is possible to want changes at board level but to still prefer the current set up to Benny’s involvement.

Its kind of like the republican vote in the 99, a lot of people wanted a republic but weren’t happy with the model put forward so voted no in the referendum.

I would like change at board level but wouldn’t be happy with Benny’s involvement so would prefer to keep the current model.

G’day @cochise : this post by you is a meek weak meow, a say next to nothing attitude in support? of our Wests Tigers club… as it stands now.

What happened to the ferocious tiger from about 18 months ago when I first joined our forum, that roared with anger when you mistakenly jumped to the conclusion that I was attempting to put a giant wedge between your beloved Balmain Tigers and my beloved Wests Magpies?

What happened to that ferocious tiger that roared with anger and was prepared to die… for the Wests Tigers, as the club was then, due to his life long and never ending love and passion for the Wests Tigers… as it was then?

We currently have a situation where a very poor example of a human being commonly known as ‘back door Benny’ and his band of faceless men have a burning desire to take control of Wests Tigers.
As admittedly a truly great player for Balmain Tigers, his never ending love for the Balmain Tigers is his sole reason for the need to control…Wow!!!

He even tells us [it has nothing to do with the need to accumulate personal $$$] there is no profit to be made out of sporting clubs…Wow!!!

What a truly unique person he is!!!

The fact he is from the Balmain side of our sporting partnership…do you consider if this goes ahead, this could be the actual giant wedge that breaks the Wests Tigers back?

A couple of sporting personalities with a lot more integrity than ‘back door Benny’ have suggested there is a need for a NRL team to be centered in Campbelltown, and have further suggested Wests Tigers should locate there and once again become known as Wests Magpies.
What’s your opinion on this?

Firstly, I am not going to rehash rubbish from 18 months ago as I am not a person that holds a grudge, unlike others apparently.

I have made in clear that I do not want Benny Elias involved in anyway with the Wests Tigers, a structure where he is involved in our club puts us on a path to the clubs demise. I don’t care what side of the merger he comes from he is shonky as. I also want something to change in this club, I don’t think the current board structure is working and that is not because it is a Wests Ashfield controlled board, it is because our club continues to be a mess that is ran like an amateur club.

Now for some reason you consider me a Balmain fan, I am not a Balmain, I am a Wests Tigers fan. I will take issue with anyone that tries to destabalise the Wests Tigers and have told users on this forum in the last week to pull their heads in because they were pushing Balmain v Magpies agendas.

Now I will address your last paragraph which I find to be disgusting, you are agitating for the breakdown of the Wests Tigers so you can have your ‘beloved’ Wests Magpies back. I do not want the Wests Magpies to return, nor do I wish to see the Balmain Tigers to return, I am a Wests Tigers supporter and wouldn’t have it any other way. It is just a shame that after 21 years there are still people who wish to see their failed clubs returned, I am happy with the current failed club I support.

Wow, I’ve really hit a nerve here haven’t I Cochise.

For you to tell me I am holding a grudge is just wrong and I resent that accusation.

I was merely pointing out the difference in your attitude from then till now, so I suggest… you pull your head in mate.

It’s amazing to me how you read things and interpret it a certain way, as that is the way you want it to be.
Leo Tolstoy said : “the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him”.

Something else you have misinterpreted.
I didn’t say you were a current Balmain fan, but it was obvious even 18 months ago you were prev a Balmain supporter as I was a Wests Magpies supporter.
I in fact said…"what happened to that ferocious tiger that roared with anger and was prepared to die…for the Wests Tigers.

So dont twist my words Cochise, to make something out of nothing to suit your ego.

Then to accuse me of trying to destabilise Wests Tigers is just rubbish.

If you are prepared to read my post with an open mind and heart, you will realise that nowhere have I pushed a Balmain V Magpies agenda.

You will also realise that no where in my post have I agitated for a breakdown of the Wests Tigers so I can have my beloved Wests Magpies back.

I am also a Wests Tigers supporter Cochise, and I think its an even bigger shame that after 21 years you are so insecure that you need to dump your frustration on others.