@TSupps05 said in The new ATAR system:

I’m in Year 12 this year and am doing my trials at the moment. All i can say is that there is alot of pressure to perform, but the HSC does reward effort. If you do your allocated work and a little bit more you will do well.

I heard someone talking about rank and that if you flunk out in the HSC but do well in the school assessments you are alright, well that is not entirely the case, and that is why people ‘clock off’ and think it is all over. If you flunk the HSC that’s 50% of your total marks.

Doing well over the year and getting a good internal score will protect you. If you have a bad day in the external will be partially negated. Let’s say you score 80 on the internal, then in the external only put up a 60, your final score will be a 70 which isn’t too bad at all. The cumulative score for class will be the same in the internal and external side of things.

The best thing the HSC will teach you is to work hard and deal with a stressful situation. Take it seriously, and give it your best, but if you don’t get the results you want don’t worry, it’s not the end of the world. If you do get the results you want then take it as a reward for your effort and hard work.

@TigersBusDriver said in The new ATAR system:

@happy_tiger The ATAR number is influenced heavily by your rank in each subjects compared with rest of the grade. I think it works in a way where (for example) if you get 2nd in the grade for Business Studies from your current marks throughout Year 12, and you somehow flunk the HSC exam and come last in the grade, you still take the 2nd best mark from the HSC exam regardless of how bad you did. So that’s how you have an idea based on your current grades.

That’s why teachers make such a big deal of the preliminary exams at the end of Year 11, to see the kids who do well and the kids who do poorly and set the class up next year for the subject to be in a situation where the whole class does well.

Your ranking doesn’t change for the internal component, but your external score will still be poor. The internal score I guess rewards those who do well at school for the year and doesn’t punish people who have an off day or are extra nervous in the exam room.

When I was at school about 10 years back it was a pretty simple system. You did all your internal work (at the beginning of the year you were provided with a handbook which told you for every subject what assessments would come up when and how much they would be weighted). The final task would be your trial exams, and when you had completed that you would get a final internal mark and a ranking. You would then complete the external exam and get another mark. These two would be averaged and a final score would be provided.

If your school had an internal program that was easier/harder this would be discovered by the final exam marks and adjusted accordingly, however if your scores were scaled your ranking would not change (if I was ranked #1 in the internal program I would maintain the highest scaled score for that component).

To develop an ATAR (UAI for me) was a bit more difficult, based on your results and your subject difficulty, a ranking was obtained. Students would get so worried about the subjects they chose that some even wanted to repeat year 11 with better subject selections to scale themselves higher. The teachers would all just tell you to work hard and try your best and not worry about logistics. In the end those who followed that advice were the ones who achieved their best possible results and those who worried about it maybe under performed a little. Also remember that your year 12 results are only one of many ways into university. Once your are there your high school results mean nothing, your ATAR may be a talking point with a few new friends you make in your first 2-3 weeks but otherwise nobody really cares by that point.

Just remember, if you get to university the first year there is a similar level to year 12 (or at least the first half of each unit is). I did not study Economics in high school but every year my first year Economics subjects spent a few weeks covering year 12 Economics. Since I had studied Business in year 12 some of the areas that I had covered then were a bit easier at Uni, but it gave me more time to focus on other subjects.

He inherited a great side, however he’s done a fantastic job at cutting the right players at the right time to keep them up there. Jennings, Maloney, Ferguson, Pearce, Napa, Watson, Guerra, SKD, Sheck are all players he got rid of at the perfect time or refused to pay overs to keep at the club.

NSW
3 Jake T
2 Teddy
1 Maloney

Qld
3 Billy Slater
2 Billy Slater
1 Billy Slater

@gallagher said in *Live* SOO Game 2 - 2019:

@Marshall_magic said in *Live* SOO Game 2 - 2019:

Blues forwards were incredible. Jake T, Saifiti, Vaughan & Finucane rolled down the field all night, whilst the likes of Napa, Fifita, McGuire barely had an impact on the game. Didn’t help that DCE & Munster were non-existent & Ponga had one of the worst games I’ve seen him play.

Finucane really impressed me, especailly for a debutant.

Bellamy has said for a few years he’s the first name on his team list. Considering the talent he has at his disposal it says a bit.

Blues forwards were incredible. Jake T, Saifiti, Vaughan & Finucane rolled down the field all night, whilst the likes of Napa, Fifita, McGuire barely had an impact on the game. Didn’t help that DCE & Munster were non-existent & Ponga had one of the worst games I’ve seen him play.

BHA 0 v Man City 3
Burnley 2 v Arsenal 1
Crystal Palace 0 v Bournemouth 1
Fulham 2 v Newcastle 1
Leicester 1 v Chelsea 2
Liverpool 1 v Wolverhampton 0
Man United 1 v Cardiff 0
Southampton 3 v Huddersfield 0
Tottenham 1 v Everton 2
Watford 2 v West Ham 1

Bournemouth 1 Spurs 3
WHU 2 Saints 1
Wolves 1 Fulham 1
Cardiff 1 Crystal Palace 2
Newcastle 1 Liverpool 2
Chelsea 2 Watford 1
Huddersfield 1 Man U 1
Arsenal 2 BHA 0
Man City 3 Leicester 0

For the record I would have gone Everton 2-0…I swear

Crystal Palace 0 Everton 2
Watford 1 wolves 1
BHA 0 Newcastle 2
Leicester 1 Arsenal 1
Burnley 0 City 3
Man United 0 Chelsea 2