I believe he is innocent till proven guilty. I also believe a man hurting a women is one of the most cowardly acts. Just disgusting.
To me it’s much worse than gambling against your own team. It’s worse than saying something offensive or damaging to others.
High profile rapists and wife beaters setting an example that will influence hundreds of women getting beaten up… WELCOME TO THE NRL
Someone with an offensive view… YOUR NOT WELCOME
Folau would be a weapon. He would bring huge ticket sales because he would win games.
I would prefer to win games rather than for the Tigers to take a stand as speech police.
Good post @crazycat
I am 100% with you.
We either find 2 genuine team changing players now (a forward and a fullback preferably) who could make us contenders and build a team around…
or we front load and bring juniors in.
I would honestly be happy to come 14th if our team was full of rising stars and we used our money to clear some of our over paid barnacles.
For me 1 horrible year is better than another 5 years of finishing 6th -10th.
Take the pain
I have a couple of sources in the club. All year their feedback was most consistent on these two points
“The tigers are training the house down”
“The players seem to respect Madge”
So, Madge works them super hard and isn’t their mate.
I have zero doubt Madge is a tough task master. I have zero doubt some players won’t like that. In fact some won’t have the bodies to cope with it (like Inglis)
But. Every tigers fan out there KNOWS the Tigers need to toughen up.
Somehow we became a soft bellied club. The opposite of our dual roots.
I know we have a tough three years coming under Madge. Culture change takes years.
he’s a professional sportsman being denied to right to make a living.
The ARU and NRL have a right to protect their brand, Folau is bad for PR and sponsorship. Companies want to be seen as being against intolerant behaviour.
This is more a case of expensive speech as opposed to free speech.
Our game has been more worried about income than it has fans or clubs for many years.
I would prefer we didn’t obsess about income… it’s not like paying players more money has helped the game in any way…
Back on Matterson, the only way the club should release him is where there is significant net benefit for us. The way they played out Ivan last year worked out well for us. We hold the cards, he is contracted and he is wanted so whatever comes in the way of negotiation will favour us if another club wants him badly enough.
And just on the topic of contracts and players being “rightfully” able to seek more, if you engage a builder to build a two homes for you, he builds the first to a good standard & in accordance with the terms of the contract and he comes back to you and says “since I did a good job, can you pay me double now for the second one?” What would you say to them?
But when the customer becomes too demanding in the builder’s eyes and wants to change the original plans completely from original deal
Matterson may have thought it was going to be a 3 bedroom single garage and bathroom under Cleary and then it ends up becoming a 200 unit skyscraper under Maguire …
Forget all the stupid analogies. Bottom line is he was signed to play football for WT for 3 years. What Cleary did or did not promise him is irrelevant.
I think most are missing my point
Matterson is to blame …Wests Tigers are just as much to blame …read my other comments …this will be the 3rd time Matterson has wanted out of a contract …what we didn’t see it could be a possibility at the very least if there were any issues
No Happy you’re wrong - first and foremost clubs don’t have to disclose why they let players go. So there is no definitive info out there as to why Parra let him go or why rorters let him go - it is all speculation. At the time we signed him there was nothing out there - and I stipulate out there - that suggested he was a problem child. And then is the other problem with your argument. If you are right in that teams should never sign errant players how does Suli fit in the mix.
I can tell you why the Chooks released Matto. I was told by a member of the Chooks coaching staff…he had a history of concussions and they thought it was to risky to extend and increase his contract. There was nothing sinister, it was purely based on his history of head knocks
I heard he confronted Robinson when the Rorters bought Angus Crichton and it was all down hill from there.