Wow can’t believe the arm chair critics and the comments on Tamou.
I actually think if true it’s an astute pickup.
He instantly becomes our best prop & our best senior leader both of which we lack big time right now.

I get we want a barn stormer, but seriously getting the captain & prop from the premiers and one who also lead the pack to the GF for the Cowboys, is in form, will do alot of dirty work we need & one who isn’t busted with major injury concerns is something any tiger fan should be very happy about.

Geez some douche’s on this forum.

He deserves every cent of a contract we agreed with him for. He can’t help injuries. He has also carried himself trough all of his injuries, major off field drama & playing reserve grade in the most respected fashion.

I don’t understand this place.

Our forwards are pathetic with minimal agility, no grunt and lateral movement worse than most grandma’s. Sua, TPJ, Dale all on the market and most here still still prefer our players. Ours aren’t better at all.

Lucy is a big cause of 35% of tries now. Watch games and look at them. Second they draw him midfield within next play or 2 we are always shot & teams score. His hitups are great but come to late, never when the chips are down he roves wide and isolates against the smaller players. He isn’t as good as many say and is a massive reason for us being terrible.

Garner is solid this year but again doesn’t do ground work when we need him.

We have no lock at all. Seyfarth is trying but he is a long way off NRL standard. He gets shrugged to side and often holds down players to get back at marker or his lateral movement mid field misses the tackler (his effectiveness isn’t high).

Twal tries hard but I have never seen a forward as tall & big as him constantly get pushed back, wish he would have some mungrel. With Tamou they are our best forward stop defenders but they don’t push forward. They are required to cover more ground in defense than most props due to our backrowers being ineffective.

The amount of times we struggle to even make 10-20mtrs a set with our forwards hitting up is a deadset joke. How our forwards keep getting dominated in the tackle is a big reason why we are always on the back foot and get carved up out wide as it forces us to cram in and focus more energy running onside than being in position for next set. But hey it’s Brooks who fails us with his kicking game.

We need players who hit hard, who run hard and players who opposition forwards will run to the side of rather than straight up. Players who move up over the advantage line and know what a shoulder is.

At the moment we have very few forwards who can do this.

I love hearing this. Madge should be rubbing the senior high playing players up the wrong way. They aren’t performing to the pay checks they signed, they are all fluff and don’t have what it takes to get to the next level or lead this young team in the direction we need them to take it.

Hopefully some of those big names pack up and get out.

We struggle to attract top line 1st graders and some on here want to treat our young talented kids with disrespect to force an issue.

What a way to totally destroy any chance at getting top junior talent.

Sorry but the person saying force Talau or give Nofo sounds like we are in panic mode for a winger… a WINGER!!! Seriously why??? He isn’t going to be that much of a difference especially now we don’t have a 80min hooker, a fullback, missing a winger and a half…

We must stop going after the first shiny object at any cost and credit to our club for finally standing firm on this.

If we miss out on JAC at least we didn’t give in at any cost to get a speedy winger… If we get him it will be on our terms.

@moh said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

IMO, Finucane will not attract players as much as TPJ would.

I really hope we don’t pay overs if we end up getting him, the way he has played the game he won’t have many games ahead.

I would be going after both.
Fin at 13 and TPJ at 12 makes our pack have a massive lift and they both compliment each other.

Having been a mod here previously I fully support Willow and the other mods on this.

The amount of personal time they give to make this place work & as good as it is, isn’t small. If the mods didn’t do what they do you wouldn’t have a westtigersforum - It’s why I stopped, priorities were family & work.

People think that mods want respect because they have a right, it’s about respecting the mods who are giving their spare time to keep the forum in place.

It’s not hard to have a conversation rather than carry on like a spoilt brat.

I called him out on his post, didn’t report him & I’m not female.

It was a dumb post, hypocrisy within the same post high and well it was derogatory, not needed and just came across that he was bored so why not post something. He thought it was humor…

Re this forum leave if you don’t like it so much. The mods look after this place in their own spare time and do a great job. Not many forums survive for 15+yrs and grow like this place & it has because of the great work the mods do.

I’m in the minority on Reynolds I think he is the wrong fit for us and is exactly the type of buy we would go hard for in the past.

Yes he is a great player and would change us but next year he is 32. He is injury prone and that doesn’t ease up with age. A 2-3yr deal on high $$$ is a retirement fund.

I’m over us signing old players at the back end of the career. I want some youth & hungry players in our team.

Replace Mcqueen with Blore please

Not surprised by the call.
Don’t agree with it.
Hope Madge can prove me wrong.

Will be interesting as to what happens over the next few months and who/what/how they drive required changes to get some faith for us fans.

Next year regardless who coached us they would’ve been a write off. The biggest issue is who for 2023 will be recruited as their as some gun players available and we can’t continue to miss out.

@avocadoontoast said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@blackwhitegold said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@avocadoontoast said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@blackwhitegold said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

I understand there is a lot at play in this decision but I reckon the Board needs to show some backbone in backing in Madge. He has been all about the future, fixing the player contract mess & setting us for long-term success. Fans & media get so fixated on the ‘now’ but should be looking at where we are heading.

1. Look at our Jersey Flegg result this season (and the potential Panthers-like era we could have if we keep these mates together)
2. Look at our recent junior recruitment (Simpkin, Saukurus, Fautimaus etc)
3. Look at our junior stars coming through (Solomone Saukuru, Brandon Tumeth, Justin Matamua to name a few)
4. Look at our good buys in recent seasons (Utoikamanu, Blore, Doeuhi, Laurie, Maumolo, Tuilagi, Simpkins)

To me our team has only a few key parts of the puzzle to assemble (2-3 players with leadership, experience, intensity & aggression in forward pack & halves; some x-factor with strong defence in the backline; and some good assistant coaching support for Madge). We have Sheens, Hastings, Gildart coming in which can all be positives.

Don’t get sucked in by the media’s focus on headlines & creating disunity.

We need to stay true & let Madge see out his contract. Otherwise the vicious circle starts again!

Keeping Madge for 2 more years will destroy the club to the point of no return. We need someone who can attract players, coach well or preferably both. His last 5 seasons have proven he can’t coach in the modern game.

I disagree. I believe with the right support around him & an incoming Tim Sheens, Madge can coach to the modern game. His squad has lacked experience & some of the ingredients I mentioned above to execute what he wants effectively.

He’s had three years to show us something. He’s been given a fair chance, it’s time for him to go imo.

He did show us something - decreasing performances, bad recruitment, ordinary coaching staff, terrible retention choices, shocking nrl experienced recruiting and his inability to motivate the team.

People keep saying give him time to get rid of the deadwood - what deadwood? Nofa, Brooks, Lids?? He extended all of them, they have all changed there playing style dramatically under Madge as well - its not as though they don’t listen to him. He got rid of Matto, Momo and Josh - all who couldn’t play for him but good enough for top 4 teams. Momo was shifted to Melb and Panthers. Good enough for both top 2 sides. We already had Laurie wrapped up for 2022 with 2 flops of centers Madge recruited but still said goodbye.

Madge has has 3yrs, he has $1.5m to spend next year, we have struggled all year with clear roster issues & he has zero players signed for next year. He has no pulling power that makes players go - yes I want to play for you.

We can blame things on others which there are others at the club that must go but the fact is Madge isn’t the right fit for the wests tigers.

@nt_tiger said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@mighty_tiger said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@weststigerman said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@geo said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

The obfuscation blaming the Board and anyone else except Maguire has reached new heights, even for this Forum.

I could not care less if Maguire is replaced but if you think that will change Wests Tigers … think again…

Very good financial position. tick
COE at Concord and Campbelltown tick tick
Great junior recruitment tick
Hartigan and Sheens onboard tick
New coach - hopefully sorted this week. tick

There are very positive changes happening.

Since you like quoting Gus so much I’ll leave this here.

Gus has 100% interest in ensuring the Tigers remain a bad place. He did that at the Panthers before leaving and will do it at the Bulldogs. His primary job now is the Bulldogs. If we look good that impacts the Bulldogs.

That doesn’t mean he isn’t correct. I believe he is.

Didn’t say he wasn’t and I’m with you.

@weststigerman said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@geo said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

The obfuscation blaming the Board and anyone else except Maguire has reached new heights, even for this Forum.

I could not care less if Maguire is replaced but if you think that will change Wests Tigers … think again…

Very good financial position. tick
COE at Concord and Campbelltown tick tick
Great junior recruitment tick
Hartigan and Sheens onboard tick
New coach - hopefully sorted this week. tick

There are very positive changes happening.

Since you like quoting Gus so much I’ll leave this here.

Gus has 100% interest in ensuring the Tigers remain a bad place. He did that at the Panthers before leaving and will do it at the Bulldogs. His primary job now is the Bulldogs. If we look good that impacts the Bulldogs.

@conepuncher said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Surely if Madge goes the unconfirmed rumours about Lomax wanting to come here are put to bed. Wasn’t it said that he and Madge have a connection and that’s why he was interested in joining?

It was put to bed when he added another year on his Dragons deal that will keep him there for 5yrs.
He was never coming.

@happy_tiger said in Soccer talk and Banter , keep it all here:

Shocking news …Derby go into Administration …

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/football/gary-neville-urges-rules-change-as-derby-go-into-administration/ar-AAOyZvi?ocid=ASUDHP&li=AAgfLCP

It sucks - my team Wigan have just come out the other end of it all. We had a loyal owner who got is from the depths up to EPL status then once we dropped down he sold us off - we got relegated finding out about the points deductions 4 weeks before the season ended and missed out by F&A.

Last season got a new owner with zero contracts and we spent well & are sitting top. It has taken 2 seasons and alot of worry because administrators kept things quite in the next sale but we got a positive outcome.

Hope Derby find their fate quickly to minimize uncertainty as it really sucks.

@plisskin said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

Just on Ciraldo, why are some of you convinced he would leave a club heading towards premiership success to helm a club heading the opposite direction?

If he wants to be a NRL coach spots where there is cash, heaps of roster spots and it also has zero immediate expectations is very rare. Barrett left for the Bulldogs, O’Brian left for the Knights, Fitzy is at the Sharks. It happens. He won’t get a NRL gig at the Panthers anytime soon. If he is happy to be an assistant he will stay, if he wants to be an NRL coach he will go hunting for one.

I called for Ciraldo a while back.
People focus on how he has done defensively at the Panthers but he also had a great record coaching the lower grades there and is still involved in pathways. In no ways does it guarantee success but if we are going to be a young squad we need someone who knows youth, has a great support network around him and has the respect within the development scene - which he has. With Sheens back who likes dynamic play it would take a load off Ciraldo early on and it is a very fresh approach for us to build from.

Madge lost the squad a very long time ago, he hasn’t been able to motivate them. When things go wrong he doesn’t adapt and his assistant mates have been a major let down. I actually really like Madge but this year we had a better squad than last years and went worse. We didn’t improve in any area. Yes we had a few kids step up but they need help. For whatever reason we have zero help coming next year for them. Be it Madge or someone else.

The way I look at this is we have had 3 years in 1 direction. We have no choice we need a new approach, we need an identity (junior pathway club) & as such we need fresh faces to lead our team on that pathway. We have no bad contracts really anymore - if we wanted to move Brooks / Nofa they could be moved unlike what we have had in the past. The new direction has an abundance of cash, roster spots to drive a new approach for us.

No matter what we do we are min 2-3 years away from being somewhat competitive. Next year is a write off which is a great time to bring a new leadership direction as their will be zero expectations on them.

@jedi_tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@jc99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@gnr4life said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

First it was Barrett doing all the work last year, now it’s Ciraldo. The Cleary hate runs that deep.

The Barrett talk all came from the media initially, they love Trent. Haven’t seen the same said about ciraldo, more that he’s just a good coach not that he’s the mastermind behind everything

Barrett was an overrated player and now overatted coach

I’m yet to see him be able to coach structure and run a team. The bulldogs where terrible & had a very solid forward pack with some experienced backs. They should’ve won more than 3 games all year.

@hugh1954 said in NRL Semi Finals 2021 *Live Game Thread*:

Moses is to inconsistent in games only difference is luke is even less consistent

He has been the last few games. Mitch has been great.
Tonight he was brilliant.