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@momo_amp_medo said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Nelson said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Spud_Murphy said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@WT2K said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@wokesmoke said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@twentyforty said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

I don’t understand what the problem is? How much is a good specialist full back worth? At $500k he is half the price of Teddy. This is all hustle and jostle. Ok, keep negotiating but get him here before 29th Feb.

He’s not a specialist anything. Prefer aetkins edwards or Meaney at the $200-$350k range for fullback. Better cap hit. Issue is with seeing him as a 5/8 cant really pay him 500k for that as well with reynolds On the books. And can’t play him as a utility with mbye on the books that Would be 1.3 mil on a busted 5/8 and an unproven 5/8 or 1.15 mil on 2 utilities. Would be terrible cap mis management

Wonder if Meaney is happy playing on the wing these days

He would be my pick out of all of them. Kid’s a star in the making. I’m sure he’d be happier in the 1 jersey, I hopeWT are looking at trying to lure him from the Dogs.

By the way, who the hell is Aetkins?

Caleb Aekins - a fullback for the Panthers. He’s played a handful of games for them but missed the end of the season with a foot injury. Not a big frame but a good runner of the ball. Not much of a ball player.

Nothing special. Pass on that one for me.

I think he probably could go well if given an extended run in the NRL but I don’t expect he’d make an immediate, massive impact.

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@Spud_Murphy said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@WT2K said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@wokesmoke said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@twentyforty said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

I don’t understand what the problem is? How much is a good specialist full back worth? At $500k he is half the price of Teddy. This is all hustle and jostle. Ok, keep negotiating but get him here before 29th Feb.

He’s not a specialist anything. Prefer aetkins edwards or Meaney at the $200-$350k range for fullback. Better cap hit. Issue is with seeing him as a 5/8 cant really pay him 500k for that as well with reynolds On the books. And can’t play him as a utility with mbye on the books that Would be 1.3 mil on a busted 5/8 and an unproven 5/8 or 1.15 mil on 2 utilities. Would be terrible cap mis management

Wonder if Meaney is happy playing on the wing these days

He would be my pick out of all of them. Kid’s a star in the making. I’m sure he’d be happier in the 1 jersey, I hopeWT are looking at trying to lure him from the Dogs.

By the way, who the hell is Aetkins?

Caleb Aekins - a fullback for the Panthers. He’s played a handful of games for them but missed the end of the season with a foot injury. Not a big frame but a good runner of the ball. Not much of a ball player.

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@jirskyr said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@balmain-boy said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

Those stats really don’t show what a fullback should be doing though. Doesn’t state anything about putting a sensible kick into the corner on the last rather than putting up a bomb? Doesn’t say anything about 7 tackles sets conceded through kicks. Doesn’t say anything about organising a side.

Well that’s all the NRL offers online.

I guarantee the clubs do have sets on “sensible” kicks and 7 tackle sets conceded. If I’m not mistaken, Brooks ranked highly in repeat sets from kicks, but I couldn’t find it. I am sure someone like @wokesmoke would have a lot to say about what can and cannot be quantified in rugby league.

I think someone like @wokesmoke might argue with you about what can and cannot be qualified by statistics, but I totally agree some stuff the fans can’t measure, or at least have access to data.

In which case it becomes a discussion of impressions only, and those discussions are mostly pointless, because Person X has their impression and Person Y has there impression. It’s like having a conversation about what lavender smells like, or what yellow looks like.

So is Cooper Cronk “more calm under pressure”. I bet 95% of people say yes, but how do they come to that conclusion? Impressions alone can be highly misleading and the brain is easily influenced.

Regardless, I’m not making an argument that Brooks is a better footballer than Cronk, I’m making the argument that in the stats you can get your hands on, he easily matches up. And the original point under discussion was whether or not Brooks was in the bottom few halfbacks, or whether he is hindered by an average roster.

It’s recorded in nrlsupercoachstats as KD (a -3 negative play). Brooks was 12th with 4.

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@Dyloh said in Alex Johnston Contract Discussion:

@avocadoontoast said in Alex Johnston Contract Discussion:

@Tiger_Steve said in Alex Johnston Contract Discussion:

@TieDye said in Alex Johnston Contract Discussion:

I think AJ would be the best option , rate him on wing… where would thompson go

Penrith apparently

I’d be pretty surprised to see Thompson leave. He’s a very handy player who isn’t on a lot of money. If we get Doueihi or Johnston you’d think he’d get one of the wing spots.

I wouldn’t wanna see him tossed aside. What’re the chances of Madge taking a tiny winger/fullback and turning him into a 9? Didn’t he do it with Cook?

Cook was a fullback but had already moved to hooker at Canterbury before starting with Souths.

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@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Doueihi was signed from reserves to Souths wasn’t he? How on Earth is he on a massively backended deal? I don’t remember there being multiple clubs vying for his signature.

He extended in 2018 until the end of 2021 having debuted for Souths. Apparently they faced a bit of competition in signing him, so he’s potentially on a bit.

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@Sausagesorcerer said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@Cultured_Bogan said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@twentyforty said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@gallagher said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@Glenn5150 said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@balmain-boy said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@bigsiro said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

I don’t think any of us are pleased with the recruitment.
On the back of 10+ years of failure we really needed to do better in the player market, especially considering the warchest.
Not to say our management didn’t try their hardest.

Frankly, our roster is arguably the worst in the comp and to be honest, one the worst I’ve seen in 40 years I’ve followed Wests/Balmain.

If we finish the dreaded 9th or 10th again it will be because we had some encouraging performances (which are inevitable over the course of a season), and this may once again serve to vindicate the players, management and some fans that we have the right squad and are heading in the right direction. Obviously we all want to win games and compete, but let’s not kid ourselves, every win with this roster is just another chance for us to pull the wool over our eyes and thus walk blindly in a fool’s paradise.

I’d almost rather us finish 15th or 16th and in doing so recognize the need for a serious roster overhaul than go through the emotional turmoil of nearly making it, getting heartbroken again while having to justify our roster at the end of next season.

  1. It’s no worse than last year.

  2. Recruitment hasn’t finished yet.

Great points. In fact with Leilua musgrove and hopefully Stefano it is way better than last year on the additions.

The pack minus hooker is fairly strong.

I’m liking the look of our pack a lot! It’s better than Souths pack imo.

If Souths can’t get Arrow early I am really interested to see how they fare next year. The game is won up front so without a quality pack I don’t believe their backs will shine as well as they could.

Same here
Murray is a gun.other than that pretty shallow pack.

L Knight
D Cook
T Burgess
E Lowe
J Su’A
C Murray

J Tatola
T Amone

It’s not terrible if there are no injuries, but it is lacking in size and impact.

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@teddy23 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Am I the only one that doesn’t understand the hype surrounding Adam Doueihi?

No. He may come good given he was coming off an injury last year and seemed to improve as the season went on, but he hasn’t impressed me as a great prospect as yet. I wouldn’t be throwing huge money at him that’s for sure.

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@jirskyr said in Alex Johnston Contract Discussion:

I’m going to go on record and say Latrell is the only potential Souths backliner that I’m enthused by or specifically impressed with. I don’t know why all the fuss over their current backline and salary cap, because I’m fairly indifferent to some of their footballers.

Doueihi seems a really good kid, good footballing heart and grit. I think he lacks strength in the tackle and lacks finesse to his game. I would be fine if there was some deal with Tigers to get him back, but he’s hardly setting the game alight and IMO no better a prospect than Momirovski already is, just different best positions. IMO Doueihi isn’t that much better than Thompson either, just taller. I think too many people watched Doueihi in a few finals games and became enamoured.

AJ I don’t rate, never have. He’s got Tim Moltzen all over him, and yes he’s scored tries backing up, so has Robert Jennings.

Campbell Graham - not seeing it myself. Big unit, still a kid, fast enough. Absolutely no reaction whatsoever on his face during games, which I find odd. Where is the passion? Wayne tried him out at centers, I don’t think he’s your first-choice there. Got mauled by Roosters in last year’s finals, so he needs more meat on that tall frame.

Braidon Burns - hasn’t done anything of note. Was really really ordinary on debut but seems to have steadied himself into an ok centre of no particular merit or deficiency.

Jimmy Jet - every few years he hits a real peak and is nearly untouchable for half a season. Not sure if 2020 will be one of those years, but he’s not getting any younger.

Dane Gagai - we all know, ace at Origin and extraordinarly average at club level.

Cody Walker - really likeable footballer, like an agile Cliff Lyons, absolute touch football talent. Typically cannot step up in the crunch games - finals, Origin. I like him a lot but he needs specific conditions to excel, like early season.

Adam Reynolds - unparalleled kicking capacity, so long as there is a platform. Tries hard the rest of times, decent little halfback.

Corey Allan - uninspiring so far. Can do a job at FB or wing or even centre, but far from impressive. Fairly ordinary defensively at FB.

Bryson Goodwin - back from the dead, no idea how he was going in UK.

That’s their first tier backline options, overall I don’t see the fuss.

Tedesco-Giraffe-Latrell-Manu-Morris-Keary-Cronk - now there is a star-studded backline to be complaining about.

Burns is a great attacking centre, he just needs to stay fit. Graham will be a bigger aerial threat this season given the rule change. If Latrell and his pudding guts aren’t fit enough to play fullback I think Roberts might be the one to miss out.

  1. Doueihi/Johnston 2. Gagai 3. Burns 4. Mitchell 5 Graham
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@JD-Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Question, if we sign someone for 2021 season onwards, can we start paying them from Jan or Feb 2020? In effect the player would be getting paid twice, one from us, one from the other club, but its possible right?

No, you can’t do that

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@wokesmoke said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@twentyforty said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@Spud_Murphy said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@Tiger_Steve said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@OzLuke said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@Tiger_Steve said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

Yep he’s only a boy; he’s not tough; he’s weak as …; yada yada yada

Last bloke who was mentally weak is now tearing it up, will get parra to top 4 and is not far from origin

Who wins?

Not us

still mentally weak and no matter how he plays is an absolute flogbag…

Agree but we lose - again and again and again and again.

Now we hear Souths call in business heavies to secure Latrell and we lose again and again and again

Bloody sick of it to be honest

I’m with you Steve, I’m bloody sick of it as well.

With regards to Matterson and Moses, yes they are flogs, dirtbags, dogs or whatever - it’s only WT supporters who think so, the rest of the rugby league world think they’re great…and yes they will still be winning.

You could form a GF team from all the players we couldn’t hang onto. Not to worry, We are now trying to buy back some of them. We need to make Tigers great again!

I thought id have fun with this. Anyone want to fill the gaps?

Tedesco
Lolohea
Suli
k naq
JAC
moses
Austin
Woods

Lodge

Matterson

Taupau
Gavet

Don’t really think that team is better than what tigers currently have though some shrewd recruitment retention would of been better

I would of kept lodge taupau JAC and teddy. Others are meh.

Fifita, Koroibete, Sironen, Nathan Brown, BMM, JMK at hooker…