@Camel2281 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Nelson said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Hangonaminute said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@JC99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Our spine on paper is the worst in the NRL, find me a worse one

Bulldogs, Titans, Dragons, Warriors…

You can’t be serious
Hoppa, Brimson, Dufty and Roger are all a million times better fullbacks than M’Bye
Whilst I like and rate AD he’s unproven at 6 yet. Burton (maybe 2022), Norman, Taylor (playing 6 outside of a controlling 7) and Harris-Tevita are all more proven 6’s
I’d have any of Flanagan, Fogerty, Hunt or Kodi Nikorima instead of Brooks
And lastly at hooker we are ahead of the dogs, probably on par with Titans and Warriors with Rein and Jazz Tevanga and miles behind the Dragons with McInnis

Tevaga was playing 13 for the Warriors with Egan and Lawton playing 9. He did not play hooker at all for the Warriors in all of 2020. Why are you using him for the comparison? McInness was also spent half of his time playing lock for the Dragons. They had Brittain, Isaac Luke and I can’t even remember who else covering the rest of the time at hooker and it was all garbage. Rein is an absolute journeyman who offers nothing. No club at all would sign Rein over Liddle and/or Simpkin and that should tell you all you need to know.

Taylor and Norman are proven 6’s alright - proven garbage. They have done nothing for years. Burton doesn’t even play for the Bulldogs yet - try Lachlan “I’ll take 10 seconds to set up for a bomb” Lewis. Harris-Tevita has not lived up to expectations in his 30 odd games so far, I’d rather be taking a roll on AD.

Dufty and Hoppa are not “a million times better” than Mbye on any sensible assessment - Hoppa was moved from fullback for Mbye at the Dogs for a reason - he has no ball playing ability at all and just runs a lot. Dufty is useless in defence and a confidence player, not a consistent player (yet anyway).

Brooks had a down 2020 but has had some very good years in the past, including Dally M half of the year in 2018. His best is much better than anything that Flanagan (who has never done anything), Fogarty (played half a dozen games) or Kodi Nikorima (can run and that’s it) have shown.

So yes, I’m serious.

@Curly_Tiger said in Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club:

@airbus said in Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club:

@The_Patriot He’s on 900 next year and 950 in 2021

Are we sure on this, all I ever heard was $3 million over 4 years and I heard $700k got to $750k at some stage but never up into the $900s
While we are on that Mbye is reported as on $950k each year from 2019 through to 2022? It was reported when he signed with us he was on somewhere around $750k to $800k with the Dogs and that they were covering $250k for 2019 & 2020. I can’t believe he would have got an increase on $800k, does anyone have anything concrete to go on with these estimates?

No, nobody knows the details of these contracts. I have noticed though that when we and/or the player concerned is playing poorly people like to just add $200Kpa to any reported figures or estimates just so they can stick the boot into the club some more.

@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@jirskyr said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@the_patriot said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

The club is desperately trying to amend the mistakes of the past. They are building for the future

I’d suggest the ones letting the Wests Tigers down are the fans still holding a flame for guys like Woods.

Stand for something. Be better.

Brain aids!

Lol we just signed Nofo for 4 years and are looking to sign DWZ and apparently Sam Burgess. How’s that building for the future exactly? I’d suggest the ones letting the Wests Tigers down are the ones making those stupid decisions.

Wanting something different to me doesn’t make you more of a fan than me.

That’s your argument, 1 re-signing of a long-term Tiger and 2 very shallow rumours?

Absolutely. The re-signing of Nofoaluma is indefensible. The fact he’s a long term Tiger is inconsequential. As for the DWZ one, the Pom said he’d probably be here by the Eels game. So unless you have information better than the Pom I don’t think I’d call it ‘very shallow’.

The re-signing of Nofoaluma in a year when he scored 17 tries, averaged 178m per game, had 3rd most tackle breaks in the league at 118 and was a Dally M winger of the year was “indefensible”?

@weststigers said in Packer & Reynolds:

@avocadoontoast said in Packer & Reynolds:

@TrueTiger said in Packer & Reynolds:

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole…Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced…

As Madge said they didnt break any rules…

Reynolds and Packer aren’t getting picked because they’re hopeless. It’s their own fault. What sort of an example is it to younger players when you see two of the highest paid, most senior players in the team leave at half time because it’s cold?

They’re both idiots and I can’t wait wait until they’re gone from the club forever.

Yeah I’m with you. I know they aren’t technically required to be there, but I’m old school with stuff like that.

One in, all in - they are senior players and should be there for the full game or not at all.

It’s not even the kind of thing they should need to have a rule for, it’s just bloody obvious that if you’re being paid as a player you turn up and support your teammates. Getting paid $15K a week and they can’t stay for 80 minutes of footy, it’s pathetic.

Is Moses a signing suggestion or rumour? If not then please stop talking about the little twerp in this thread.

Moylan would be an awful signing. He does not fit with what our team needs at all. Dugan would literally be a better option, and I’m far from advocating us going out and signing Dugan! Moylan (when he can be bothered playing) is a play maker. We don’t need another one when we have Brooks, Benji, Mbye, Reynolds, Talau and Momirovski all hoping for spots in the 17 - we need players that run hard and break the line from time to time!

Can we stop with the petty feuds? Just get it out of your systems with a tirade that earns you a temporary ban and then move on and learn to ignore or tolerate each other…

@Madge said in Lure Latrell....as a Fullback:

Sorry guys random question, can anyone go an watch the tigers train at concord oval at anytime ?

People in prison can’t.

The Doueihi deal is skewed by the ridiculous contract that Souths gave him. If he weren’t already getting $600K for 2021 under that deal I don’t imagine many would be saying that we should be paying $600K for him for 2021, or that he would have any right to demand that sort of salary. Those being critical of the club not just leaping in and taking on that salary should consider what kind of salary they thought he was on or would have justified before that $600K figure came out. I seriously doubt anyone would have thought he was contracted for anything more than $400K at the absolute most.

First and last time I’ll be visiting this thread…

@yeahcaz said in Ken Maumalo signs until 2023..:

@frullens said in Ken Maumalo signs until 2023..:

KM defending and effort for storms dust try was not impressive…

I’ve only been saying this non stop for the last 48 hours

That third try from Ken just goes to show that your death-riding of the poor bloke has been an utter failure.

@gnr4life said in Ken Maumalo signs until 2023..:

Who goes, Roberts or Tommy?

Get rid of Roberts, he’s done nothing.

@joebob said in Ken maumalo:

So he played the first 10 rounds this year. Was he dropped for round 11? Has he been playing reserve grade or is he injured?

RTS was moved from fullback to wing to accommodate Reece Walsh and Maumalo was dropped. Nathan Brown was picking Marcelo Montoya ahead of him.

Interestingly, he led the league in post-contact metres with 1,490 in his 2019 winger of the year season. It’ll be pretty handy if he can replicate 65 post-contact metres per game with us: that will really help get our sets rolling.

@tigerwest said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

@geo said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

@tiger5150 said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

@geo said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

@tiger5150 said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

@milky said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

@crazycat said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

@jedi_tiger said in Transfer Market: Tigers’ shock bid to snare DWZ:

are we able to use some of this year’s salary cap to bump up Mbye so we pay less the next 2 years ?

Why arn’t we doing this for say Brooks? or Twal or Tamou or Daine Laurie?

I don’t understand why we don’t frontload our cap a lot more. Were probably not going to make the 8, what we have to give up on signing DWZ for 400k this year…woopie.

Frontload our spare coin on players we are going to keep. I hate that we have signed Mbye, but I have to admit putting him at 5/8 has worked and he has played his heart out. The fact that he stayed in first grade when Reynolds and Packer dropped all comes down to attitude. I would frontload anyone else but Mbye though.
Look, honestly Mbye was an 750K investment that never worked out. Sure he has sometimes played at the 200k level, sometimes at the 450k level… But if I had to pick our backline it is:
Daine Laurie
Cini/Nofo
Doueini/James - jet-Roberts, plus we have Oliver coming from the UK.
Hastings + Brooks in the halves.

Mbye at best is NR14. OR Mbye starts at 6 and Hastings forces his way into the starting squad.

We probably won’t be signing Mbye on less then 450k. No way we should be frontloading HIM, and why spend so much on NR14 when we could put up a junior. I don’t see where Mbye fits, why front load?

Because this year is technically a write off in terms of recruitment so if we front-load Mbye’s contract he would be on say 500k next year. If he goes to crap and someone picks him up next year, we will only be contributing around 200k as opposed to 500k.

Because we will have paid the rest this year, how does that save money?

Doesn’t save any money …Does re-arrange when the money is paid…creates more Cap space in 2022

Agree with that, but IMO it doesnt make sense to front load a player if you looking to get another club to take him off your books, you will pay a larger percentage of the salary.

Makes sense to front load a Brooks because he will definitely be here for another year.

Front loading a player you are looking to get rid of doesn’t make sense to me.

I wouldn’t either…But no doubt I don’t see us signing 2 quality players in the next month…so the Cap needs to be exhausted each year…you don’t carry over…

You can front load… not to the extent you use to be able …if it was me…I would spread the excess over 5 or 6 players like Nofoaluma, Garner, Utoikamanu, Douiehi…offer Luciano a bit of sweetener to extend all from money still left from 2021…when it’s all added up and deducted from 2022 or 23 even you create space…Also not 1 player is taking a big swing in salary from year to year…

Is it the money (cap) or the numbers (squad of 30) or both that the NRL want done?

Both. Need 30 players signed by the deadline and there is a minimum % of the cap money that needs be spent (90% from memory).

@mctiger said in Penalty Try:

@geo said in Penalty Try:

I thought the contact was force full…

Maybe Bwaith should line up and Wests Tigers forum members could take turns of belting him in the head to varying degrees and see if he gets up or stays down…

He’s on my return flight to Brisbane right now. I’ll start……

Give him one for me too please!

@aubanon said in A big thumbs up to the Leichhardt die hard..:

Great atmosphere tonight, but someone’s fudging the numbers.

Appeared to be more than 9k as announced.

I’m pretty sure my ticket wasn’t scanned on the way in, the girl at the gate tried for about half a second before just waving me in.

@tigerwest said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@bones said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tiger-tarl said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@teddy23 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Mikaele

Wait… Mikaele is going?

Bunty Afo’a another name being floated around IF Mikaele goes elsewhere

Don’t stress just yet.

Why not go for both?

Because we have enough invested in middle forwards for next year with Ofahengaue, Twal, Tamou, Utoikamanu, Musgrove, Simpkins and Mikaele/Seyfarth (if we re-sign them).

@tiger5150 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@nelson said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@jirskyr said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@the_patriot said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

The club is desperately trying to amend the mistakes of the past. They are building for the future

I’d suggest the ones letting the Wests Tigers down are the fans still holding a flame for guys like Woods.

Stand for something. Be better.

Brain aids!

Lol we just signed Nofo for 4 years and are looking to sign DWZ and apparently Sam Burgess. How’s that building for the future exactly? I’d suggest the ones letting the Wests Tigers down are the ones making those stupid decisions.

Wanting something different to me doesn’t make you more of a fan than me.

That’s your argument, 1 re-signing of a long-term Tiger and 2 very shallow rumours?

Absolutely. The re-signing of Nofoaluma is indefensible. The fact he’s a long term Tiger is inconsequential. As for the DWZ one, the Pom said he’d probably be here by the Eels game. So unless you have information better than the Pom I don’t think I’d call it ‘very shallow’.

The re-signing of Nofoaluma in a year when he scored 17 tries, averaged 178m per game, had 3rd most tackle breaks in the league at 118 and was a Dally M winger of the year was "indefensible"?

Does indefensible mean he cant tackle?

He’s not a good defender and probably never will be. I think he’s the victim of confirmation bias on here a bit though. Any failing is played up and he gets blamed for things that are beyond his control at times. Anyway, I’m sure there would be other people claiming it was indefensible if we’d let him walk.

@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@jirskyr said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@the_patriot said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

The club is desperately trying to amend the mistakes of the past. They are building for the future

I’d suggest the ones letting the Wests Tigers down are the fans still holding a flame for guys like Woods.

Stand for something. Be better.

Brain aids!

Lol we just signed Nofo for 4 years and are looking to sign DWZ and apparently Sam Burgess. How’s that building for the future exactly? I’d suggest the ones letting the Wests Tigers down are the ones making those stupid decisions.

Wanting something different to me doesn’t make you more of a fan than me.

That’s your argument, 1 re-signing of a long-term Tiger and 2 very shallow rumours?

Absolutely. The re-signing of Nofoaluma is indefensible. The fact he’s a long term Tiger is inconsequential. As for the DWZ one, the Pom said he’d probably be here by the Eels game. So unless you have information better than the Pom I don’t think I’d call it ‘very shallow’.

The re-signing of Nofoaluma in a year when he scored 17 tries, averaged 178m per game, had 3rd most tackle breaks in the league at 118 and was a Dally M winger of the year was “indefensible”?