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@ElleryHanley said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@NT_Tiger said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

I really don’t understand the moaning about the dropping of Matterson. We got nothing for him, etc etc. Yes we did get something for him. Team harmony.
If you’ve never worked in a team you might not get that. It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that the current WT squad wanted nothing to do with Matterson. Wise decision to show him the door. He was too good for us.
Bye

Twal and Aloai are his best mates.

Can someone say ‘exactly’ who fell out with Matterson just so we can clear it up?

Because it def was not them.

So, who was it?

A couple of posts from the Matterson thread.matchball 29 Oct 2019, 14:42

@cqtiger said in Matterson unhappy at Tigers?:
Well if it’s true about our players savaging him when he turned up at a social event then he can’t stay. Period.
He showed some thick skin to show up.
If I did what he did, I wouldn’t show my face out of embarrassment.
Imagine showing your face at work after disparaging the company in the media.
It leads me to believe Matterson isn’t really with what’s going on or had little input in it.
He is being led by the ugly Orr’s

THE_POM 1 Nov 2019, 07:02
Matterson release is purely business, players didn’t want him there & we didn’t want to pay a dollar more for him. If a deal was done prior to today it would of been, but he was always going to be released before the new NRL financial year started. We no longer contribute any $$ towards Matterson.
In relation to Lomax appears Dragons have put their foot down for 2020…but don’t rule out 2021.

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I really don’t understand the moaning about the dropping of Matterson. We got nothing for him, etc etc. Yes we did get something for him. Team harmony.
If you’ve never worked in a team you might not get that. It was absolutely clear at the end of last season that the current WT squad wanted nothing to do with Matterson. Wise decision to show him the door. He was too good for us.
Bye

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@Strongee said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@Snake said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

Jac has to work out his management issues before anything else…talk of legal action from present management to other types shopping him around to clubs … ugly matters these things and it takes time to sought out …doubt he will be playing anywhere but Melbourne this coming season .

A bit strange that 2 very close mates , both staunch indigenous men , are having the same issues with management.
Is it this culture or “you’re my mob” ,that a lot of indigenous kids , have to provide for anyone who is remotely connected to thier family.
Can anyone shed any light on this ? I’ve been reading about the culture , and it seems so foreign to me. I get family loyalty, but mates of your cousins mate , type stuff , just doesn’t seem right to me.
It reeks of opportunism, of which , I really feel for these kids , and the weight of the world they must feel .

Mitchell’s and Addo Carr’s relationships with ‘family’, to some extent, depends on how staunchly they identify with Aboriginal culture. If they are following kinship law, each of them will have beholding relationships with some (extended) family members and will have avoidance relationships with others.
Each will have beholding relationships with their uncles, including both blood family and anybody else that can be identified as an ‘uncle’ through kinship rules. I don’t know what family relationships they have with their managers if any, but uncles are life advisors so their opinions matter and should be taken into account. Problems may arise if different uncles are advising different things.
I don’t know that any of this applies to Mitchell or Addo Carr. I know a few individuals in the NT that, although brought up in fairly traditional settings, completely reject the strictures imposed by kinship law.

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@twentyforty said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@NT_Tiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

I disagree. If Mitchell is too young, and too dumb to see the value of our offer he simply does not have the maturity required for the player we need.
We do not need a primadonna, along for the ride and for the pay packet. We need a talented, skilled leader assisting us to win games.
Personally I no longer think Mitchell is what we are after. If he takes the lead and directs his ‘current’ manager to call us I may change my opinion, but at the moment, he looks like a follower not a leader.

So your position mirrors what we understand is the clubs . An emotional immature response to a problematic issue?

I think the club is handling the ‘problematic’ issue well. The clubs, and my, response is anything but ‘emotional’ or ‘immature’. I think the club has identified that it needs a committed, skilled leader and is prepared to pay very well to obtain one.
If a player is made an offer like the one we have tabled and that offer is rejected, move on. Mitchell would know our position re who we want as a player and the dollar value of our offer. The ball is in his court. Professionally handled in my view.
Alternatively, we could take an immature and emotional, man crush, we need a marquee player at all costs, approach and go begging I suppose. But I’m glad we haven’t.

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I disagree. If Mitchell is too young, and too dumb to see the value of our offer he simply does not have the maturity required for the player we need.
We do not need a primadonna, along for the ride and for the pay packet. We need a talented, skilled leader assisting us to win games.
Personally I no longer think Mitchell is what we are after. If he takes the lead and directs his ‘current’ manager to call us I may change my opinion, but at the moment, he looks like a follower not a leader.

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@Tiger_Steve said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@NT_Tiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@PabloX said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@Ponyo said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@TonyTiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

The Roosters and Tigers will be laughing at the end of this season, the clown failed to buy insurance, one year deal, wait for the season ending injury and he’ll have plenty of time to look and question the man in the mirror when the knock at the door fails to materialise.
JAC should be our priority.

Contract still not signed off on yet & hasn’t been approved by NRL, but what a gronk if these reports are correct. Risking his families future tells me he’s just a selfish little boy. His purported upgrade next year (in Souths’ favour apparently) is dependent on who they can shift to accommodate his highness - teammates who have been shopped around while on holiday & without their knowledge. Easts have been home for him since he was 16, they wanted to pay him $800,000 this year - instead he rinses them for $116,000 while he goes fishing - then agrees to a contract with the enemy, for $200,000 less then what Easts originally offered him, zero guarantees - you can’t make this up. Latrell could have set his young family up for life and then moved to Souths later in his career. All it takes is 1 injury and he’s yesterday’s news, crazy.

And to think he went to market to make “more” money for his family…it doesn’t add up

Take into account, too many advisors and suddenly it all adds up. 'Listen mate the roosters are short changing you, you’re worth more than that etc etc.
Same advisors, ‘Nah mate don’t go to the Tigers have you heard what Matto said?’
Bottom line is, he’s a young, easily lead bloke and maybe not the swiftest.

Blokes advising him aren’t any swifter!!

Without doubt.

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@PabloX said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@Ponyo said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@TonyTiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

The Roosters and Tigers will be laughing at the end of this season, the clown failed to buy insurance, one year deal, wait for the season ending injury and he’ll have plenty of time to look and question the man in the mirror when the knock at the door fails to materialise.
JAC should be our priority.

Contract still not signed off on yet & hasn’t been approved by NRL, but what a gronk if these reports are correct. Risking his families future tells me he’s just a selfish little boy. His purported upgrade next year (in Souths’ favour apparently) is dependent on who they can shift to accommodate his highness - teammates who have been shopped around while on holiday & without their knowledge. Easts have been home for him since he was 16, they wanted to pay him $800,000 this year - instead he rinses them for $116,000 while he goes fishing - then agrees to a contract with the enemy, for $200,000 less then what Easts originally offered him, zero guarantees - you can’t make this up. Latrell could have set his young family up for life and then moved to Souths later in his career. All it takes is 1 injury and he’s yesterday’s news, crazy.

And to think he went to market to make “more” money for his family…it doesn’t add up

Take into account, too many advisors and suddenly it all adds up. 'Listen mate the roosters are short changing you, you’re worth more than that etc etc.
Same advisors, ‘Nah mate don’t go to the Tigers have you heard what Matto said?’
Bottom line is, he’s a young, easily lead bloke and maybe not the swiftest.

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@Elderslie_Tiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

So we missed out on LM he’s not the first and won’t be last let’s bury this thread and all you keyboard coaches and chief executives with it

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