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@Thaiger said in Wests Tigers v Penrith Trial Teams..:

@Elderslie_Tiger said in Wests Tigers v Penrith Trial Teams..:

@tiger05premier said in Wests Tigers v Penrith Trial Teams..:

Is Scholari too young?

A lot of posters have huge raps on him

Only one way to find out

I could be wrong but I understand Dillon and Scolari were told at training this week they were playing. Dillon is on a development contract, Scolari isn’t so needs to get the insurance paperwork sorted.

So won’t be surprised if Scolari gets a run. There are so many good young players in the named squad so I also see that it’s hard to fit them all in.

Felix Smith, Mavonni, Wilson etc - would love to see them all if it were possible. As I said earlier, Fenn is a good style of a forward - big, rugged and tough who came across from Manly last year. Won’t be shocked if he stars in CC this year.

Certainly we have outstanding talent and the means and coach with the boys to keep them.

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Our future is with the young players from the juniors or purchased from outside the district. We have been caught too many times with expensive players who just don’t work out either through injury or no performance.

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I’m looking forward to watching Logan Dillon and William Kei. If young William is as good as his cousin we’re on a winner 🙂

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@jirskyr said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

Do you believe Camroux would have been left waiting for his parents to approach the Storm? I think not.

I’m not going to start trying to second guess the recruitment ins and outs of junior footballers when I don’t have the facts.

That’s the whole point I’m making. You are criticising people without the facts, just bits and pieces from the odd article here or there.

Who said Camroux was left waiting? All the article says is 2 other clubs came sniffing around and we hadn’t locked the kid in yet for a longer term. Says nothing about where he was in the pecking order, whether or not they planned to offer him a deal, whether they had spoken to him or his parents before etc.

I, again, refuse to believe that nobody at Tigers was having conversations with Camroux about his future when he’s running around captaining junior rep sides and his Dad used to be an old Balmain player.

Can Tigers do better? I am sure they can. In what manner can they do better? No idea, I don’t have access to the detail. As far as I can tell, past few seasons, junior recruitment has been pretty good, some really good young kids on the books.

Is Hartigan the messiah and do I take him at his word, as representative of the real situation with junior recruitment? No idea, don’t know the bloke and he’s been here 5 minutes.

"The Camrouxs are no different, dad played for the club, coached at the club. Mum and dad came in and we had a chat and their point of view was very strong - they didn’t want to leave the club - but other clubs had shown interest and for whatever reason we had been slow to act.

Pretty clear to most. Why are you still arguing?

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If you haven’t seen this, look at the highlights with the Holy Cross Ryde winger under the high ball.

https://www.facebook.com/NrlSchoolboyCup/videos/2296473067280988/

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@jirskyr said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

Do our results and the quality of our NRL team reflect the size of our junior district? I think not but run a poll to canvas views.

Illogical! The two most successful clubs of the past decade have the League’s smallest junior districts.

But you fail to recognise the better identification/recruitment/retention and development programmes at these clubs.

Do you believe Camroux would have been left waiting for his parents to approach the Storm? I think not.

“Elite kids, under-valued players, buy at the point end when necessary and great coaching,” O’Sullivan said when asked to outline the keys to building a successful team.

With our large junior base and adopting the lessons learnt from the successful programmes of the Storm and the Roosters, we should be at their level.

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@jirskyr said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

@balmain-boy said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

@jirskyr said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Building a premiership team in a draft-free league:

It is fortunate the Camroux case did come to his attention that quickly. A good indication that junior identification and retention even a year after Maguire commenced was not up to standard. A good wake up call to the club.

One single event it not an indication - you can’t have a trend with one.

There must be hundreds of junior kids going around in every grade, and undoubtedly fielding phone calls from other clubs all the time. The good side of this story is that Knights phoned Tigers up to be clear on their interest, which is a highly professional and commendable thing to have done. And then obviously the family history, they spoke to the Tigers and expressed their desire to remain at the club.

But if you haven’t identified the star of Balmain’s SG Ball side as a potential player of the future and chatted to him about our plans for him over the coming years then that’s an extremely amateur and naive way to handle or juniors!

It’s not Zane has come from nowhere, he was the captain of one of our feeder clubs!

If his dad wasn’t a Balmain stalwart we would have lost him, without even offering him a contract. This is simply not good enough. Great that Hartigan is in and can stop the rot with our juniors. Hopefully he can help the Magpies both recruit and retain the top juniors from the south-west because currently the magpies simply don’t get ANY of the top local juniors which is embarrassing.

Spot on BB. A club’s success is defined by its identification and retention of its best juniors. To date, ours has been poor. It is simply not good enough to hope the loyalty of the family is enough to keep them at WTs. I wrote that there appears to be a massive disconnect between Balmain and WTs insofar as the identification and retention of talent. This needs to change right now.

I want to investigate this more - where is the disconnect? Are there loads and loads of Balmain kids being “missed” by the Tigers, overlooked? You reckon WT isn’t aware who is running around in Balmain juniors?

Literally, are you just going off a handful of articles or do you actually know better, do you actually have inside information? If so, please share.

But if your proof is solely horse trade; if you are going to list the names of a handful of junior players who ended up at other clubs, then I’ll stop you right there and spare you the wasted time of doing that. Don’t say Ryan Papenhuyzen is proof!!!

If you want to investigate it more take it up with the club.

Hartigan’s comment that it is an important case to learn about how we operate and how this scenario happened is illuminating. To me a suggestion Houston we have a problem. The fact his parents initiated discussions is further proof. Whether you choose to believe this is a matter for you.

Do our results and the quality of our NRL team reflect the size of our junior district? I think not but run a poll to canvas views.

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@Sunnycoast_tiger said in 2020 Canterbury Cup and Jersey Flegg squads:

@pawsandclaws1 said in 2020 Canterbury Cup and Jersey Flegg squads:

Where are Field and Kai?

Peter Tavaga

Pili Togamoaga

Ray Jankovic

Richard Ioane

Ronald Philitoga

Rua Ngati

Ryan Garner

Sione Tupou

Taj Mickley

Tyler Field

William Kei

Thanks. I am looking forward to watching young Kai. He is the cousin of Jonah Lomu!

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@Geo said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Geo said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Jedi_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

interesting nobody will swap Nofo with us … why coz he is average defensively

Even more interesting that he’s not on the market to swap…

Perhaps he should be - transfer to ESL with Reynolds.

Yeah because it’s that easy.

Are Nofoaluma and Lawrence the only Campbelltown juniors in the NRL team?

Not sure. But for someone who harps on about losing our juniors, it’s funny you’re advocating sending one overseas.

The immediate question that comes to mind is why he outlasted Korobeite and JAC who imo are far superior wingers. Why is that? Was our talent identification and retention that poor that we failed to see this or, was there another issue at play?

JAC wasn’t a Wests Junior and now wants to leave the Storm if reports are true…Koroibete only spent 2 seasons at the Storm and then left for Rugby…seems the Storm ain’t that good at retention either…Vunivalu another of their big fast wingers is also leaving the Storm for Rugby next year…

What is your point? We had them, lost them and have suffered ever since. No one can blame JAC for wanting to return for his family reasons. Storm lose one but have another to replace them. That is the difference.