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There’s no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A “nah they won’t” at a press conference isn’t good enough for me.

😂😂what a crack up … I am sure you think your under the radar … reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts 💭

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I’ve been near if they don’t track where I’ve been?

If you don’t know where I’ve been, then you don’t know where I’ve been, so you can’t know who I’ve been near.

Seriously? it stores the phone number of anyone you have been in close contact with for 15 minutes.

When was the last time (during this circus) that you spent 15mins within 1.5m of a total stranger?
This app is a joke

You do realise that the app is for when restrictions are lifted? Try reading before making uninformed comments.

Are you going to spend 15m within 1.5m of a stranger when the restrictions are lifted?

I hope so

Well you are dumber than I thought.

So you won’t come within 1.5 mtrs of anyone ever again?

Of course I will, I’m talking about immediately after the restrictions are lifted.

How long are you going to keep the app after restrictions are lifted?
When will you feel safe to be “app free”

I don’t actually have the app, when I return to work there will be times have to be within 1.5 mtrs of people for up to an hour.

You have no knowledge of how this app is implemented but are arguing against it. You claim other people are sheep but you argue from a position of ignorance, at least research the topic before getting involved.

The biggest issue I have with this app is the location of the stored data.

You’re nieve enough to trust that what they say about this app is true.
I don’t trust governments, their track record speaks for itself.

Govern = Control
Ment = Mind
Remember this

I remember you brought up this Latin translation of Government, though maybe you should go further to find the origins of a word rather than just the Latin translation, the word Government actually comes to us by a 3 step translation from Greek to Latin to French, Govern comes from the Greek kubernan (to steer) which is then latinised to gubernare (steer/rule) then passed on to Old French as governer.

And while the -ment ending does come from a Latin word meaning mind, it is used in English as one of the standard ways of converting a verb to a noun, for example advertisement, ailment, disappointment, encouragement, enlightenment, embankment, embellishment, endowment, enrollment, judgement, commencement, adjustment, amendment, appointment, announcement, argument, assignment, assortment, attachment, development, employment

By the way Nieve is Spanish for snow.

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Sadly we will soon be forced from our Optus cable service as it will be shut down when the NBN network starts in our area, have been very happy with the cable service for over a decade, it has been very reliable and Optus has absorbed some of Foxtel’s price rises in recent years to keep the price down.

Not looking forward to having to deal directly with Foxtel.

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1 John Dorahy
2 Warren Boland
3 Ted Goodwin
4 Chris Lawrence
5 Taniela Tuiaki

6 Terry Lamb
7 Tom Raudonikis

8 Harvey Howard
9 Robbie Farah
10 John Donnelly
11 Gareth Ellis
12 Geoff Foster
13 Graeme O’Grady

14 John Skandalis
15 Jim Murphy
16 Jim Leis
17 Bob Lindner

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China Being Sued for 20 Trill

US probably just looking for cash to pay off their debts.

Don’t blame them to be honest. If China withheld it from the world and allowed diseased citizens to leave the country, there should be certainly some sort of reparations.

I have to agree CB,if someone does an injustice to someone else they can litigate or sue for compensation…Not turning this into a China hate thread …only pointing out that on a global scale they also have a duty of care to their own people and to people who visit their country…I would say in a normal court of law they could be found negligent and in breach of their duty of care,

Can I ask this …

How would they have known early on it was any different from any flu season

It is quite similar in many ways …with the amount of people coming and going from China by the time they knew it was too late

Haters got to hate I guess

Happy, the CCP arrested and detained the doctors who first reported this as a new virus. The CCP broke into the research lab that first identified the virus as a new virus and destroyed the vials (Sun Yang style) (Source Washington Post & London Times). In december the CCP officially notified the WHO that there were no human to human cases.

Thank you!

If people want to read a CCP propaganda mill, may I suggest moving themselves over to the Beijing Daily or similar state run publications. You can swallow all the lies you can handle over there.

What about the Spanish Flu …it started in Kansas and killed somewhere between 25 000 000 and 40 000 000

Did the rest of the world take action v the USA

Have the Americans taken ownership or paid any reparations …

Oh that’s right … this country is Red …

Maybe, maybe not, a 2018 study found that the Spanish Flu (or H1N1 virus) may have began in China as early as 1915 as a mild flu, it is believed that it mutated in Kansas in 1917 and was spread by troops in France in early 1918. China had a low mortality rate of the Spanish Flu and it is believed that was because they had built up immunities to the original outbreak of the flu before it mutated. by the way the H1N1 virus returned as the Swine flu in 2009.

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@TrueTiger said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

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Stories today have the NRL players superannuation fund being 10 million short over the last 2 seasons …NRL going to save some more money when they sack whoever is involved with that

I looked into my super 5 days ago and found that I had lost 20,000dollars off my initial balance,it has been put down to the stock exchange losses…I will take the 10,000 dollars on offer tax free to get me through this period…I may as well make the most of what I have saved for before I lose the lot and have nothing left in retirement…the other impact of this is the people in retirement already who depend on drawing down on their self funded or normal supers,rely on it to pay for golf club memberships,football club memberships and other forms of recreation during retirement,many of these will pull the plug on these things as the economy gets tighter…
It may all be well and good to say we will get over this,but just stop and realise how much this has affected the global economy which Australia heavily invests in…without being morbid and trying to stay positive,I think there is a tough road ahead of us,some are going to suffer more than others,but remember we are all in this together and if you feel a heavy strain make sure you get help,we all need it some time…

You have to be careful withdrawing your super now and way up the cost as you will not receive the accumulated interest and tax benefits later on…

Yes depending on your age you are not really withdrawing $10000, it is more likely to cost you upwards of $30-60000 in the long run based on your age!

Im 3 years off retirement age Cochise 10k now to get me through wont make that much difference seeing I lost 20 k in one hit without knowing it until 5 days ago…

I’m also 3 years away from retirement, my super lost almost $57,000 in 4 weeks but has regained $16,377 in the past week.

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$950 k grant to to club doesn’t make the club self sufficient,as some claim. We’re in trouble here.

It all has to be kept in perspective with cash and asset as well as operating cost, profit and loss of respective leagues and football clubs and grants from leagues clubs.

Parramatta as a comparison had a operating loss of $5.25 million despite a grant from the Leagues Club of $10m, the Eagles had a loss of $1.79 million in 2018 (they haven’t released their 2019 figures), their company has a deficiency of funds whereby its liabilities exceed its assets by $12.48 million, they also owe the NRL $2.4m, the sharks Leagues club had a $3.19m operating deficit last year and the football club are asset poor, even the Panthers though asset rich with $209m recently took out a loan of $64m.

Even Uncle Nick has taken a recent loss in personal wealth and the Leagues club slashed funding to the football club by almost $1.2m.

Kept in perspective
Rorters - grant $2,100,000 - profit $8,863 actual profit/loss (-$2,091,137)
Wests Tigers - grant $950,000 - profit $912,000 actual profit/loss (-$38,000)
Parramatta - grant $10,000,000 - loss $5.25m actual profit/loss (-$15,250,000)

Thanks Pratten. I was just saying that a lot on here were claiming we are breaking even without league’s clubs grants. But we made close to $1mill loss.

Not close to a $1m - Profit $912,000 - Grant $950,000 = -$38,000.

The primary point is we are in a much better position than many, Panthers are asset heavy but cash poor, and with a $64m loan if they don’t make money and struggle to pay those payments the interest will blow that out very quickly, they will likely be forced to sell off assets to limit the risk.

The Eels obviously have high running costs involved with such a heavy loss but the Leagues club will likely keep them going, Manly and Cronulla are the two in the worst position, the Sharks have $16m in cash but they recently sold property to get that cash and their Leagues club is closed for 2 years and operated at a loss last year and Manly are operating at a big loss and their owners are struggling, and they have spend thrift Des to deal with.

Sorry, so the football club had a loss of $38 k before the leagues club grant? Is that right?

I had doubts of the sharks lastng 2 years before this crisis happened. Manly offer little to the game either.

That is correct, actual football club loss before the grant is $38k.

Cheers mate, I was obviously reading that wrong. I’ll retract my comments then, that small a loss is as good as breaking even.

It is almost breaking even, particularly compared to the Bulldogs, Eels and Panthers who all get large cash injections from their Leagues clubs and yet all still made big losses.

You really have to look at the whole picture, a club that gets a grant of $10m and still loses $5.25m is operating at a very high cost, where a club that gets a grant of just $950,000 and makes a $912,000 profit obviously has lower overall operating costs, and that will make a difference the longer things go on.

Another consideration is with no games sponsorship will likely start to suffer for some clubs, I prefer our position with our major sponsor than most other clubs.

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@gallagher said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

@PrattenParkMagpie said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

@gallagher said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

@PrattenParkMagpie said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

@gallagher said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

$950 k grant to to club doesn’t make the club self sufficient,as some claim. We’re in trouble here.

It all has to be kept in perspective with cash and asset as well as operating cost, profit and loss of respective leagues and football clubs and grants from leagues clubs.

Parramatta as a comparison had a operating loss of $5.25 million despite a grant from the Leagues Club of $10m, the Eagles had a loss of $1.79 million in 2018 (they haven’t released their 2019 figures), their company has a deficiency of funds whereby its liabilities exceed its assets by $12.48 million, they also owe the NRL $2.4m, the sharks Leagues club had a $3.19m operating deficit last year and the football club are asset poor, even the Panthers though asset rich with $209m recently took out a loan of $64m.

Even Uncle Nick has taken a recent loss in personal wealth and the Leagues club slashed funding to the football club by almost $1.2m.

Kept in perspective
Rorters - grant $2,100,000 - profit $8,863 actual profit/loss (-$2,091,137)
Wests Tigers - grant $950,000 - profit $912,000 actual profit/loss (-$38,000)
Parramatta - grant $10,000,000 - loss $5.25m actual profit/loss (-$15,250,000)

Thanks Pratten. I was just saying that a lot on here were claiming we are breaking even without league’s clubs grants. But we made close to $1mill loss.

Not close to a $1m - Profit $912,000 - Grant $950,000 = -$38,000.

The primary point is we are in a much better position than many, Panthers are asset heavy but cash poor, and with a $64m loan if they don’t make money and struggle to pay those payments the interest will blow that out very quickly, they will likely be forced to sell off assets to limit the risk.

The Eels obviously have high running costs involved with such a heavy loss but the Leagues club will likely keep them going, Manly and Cronulla are the two in the worst position, the Sharks have $16m in cash but they recently sold property to get that cash and their Leagues club is closed for 2 years and operated at a loss last year and Manly are operating at a big loss and their owners are struggling, and they have spend thrift Des to deal with.

Sorry, so the football club had a loss of $38 k before the leagues club grant? Is that right?

I had doubts of the sharks lastng 2 years before this crisis happened. Manly offer little to the game either.

That is correct, actual football club loss before the grant is $38k.

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@gallagher said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

@PrattenParkMagpie said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

@gallagher said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

$950 k grant to to club doesn’t make the club self sufficient,as some claim. We’re in trouble here.

It all has to be kept in perspective with cash and asset as well as operating cost, profit and loss of respective leagues and football clubs and grants from leagues clubs.

Parramatta as a comparison had a operating loss of $5.25 million despite a grant from the Leagues Club of $10m, the Eagles had a loss of $1.79 million in 2018 (they haven’t released their 2019 figures), their company has a deficiency of funds whereby its liabilities exceed its assets by $12.48 million, they also owe the NRL $2.4m, the sharks Leagues club had a $3.19m operating deficit last year and the football club are asset poor, even the Panthers though asset rich with $209m recently took out a loan of $64m.

Even Uncle Nick has taken a recent loss in personal wealth and the Leagues club slashed funding to the football club by almost $1.2m.

Kept in perspective
Rorters - grant $2,100,000 - profit $8,863 actual profit/loss (-$2,091,137)
Wests Tigers - grant $950,000 - profit $912,000 actual profit/loss (-$38,000)
Parramatta - grant $10,000,000 - loss $5.25m actual profit/loss (-$15,250,000)

Thanks Pratten. I was just saying that a lot on here were claiming we are breaking even without league’s clubs grants. But we made close to $1mill loss.

Not close to a $1m - Profit $912,000 - Grant $950,000 = -$38,000.

The primary point is we are in a much better position than many, Panthers are asset heavy but cash poor, and with a $64m loan if they don’t make money and struggle to pay those payments the interest will blow that out very quickly, they will likely be forced to sell off assets to limit the risk.

The Eels obviously have high running costs involved with such a heavy loss but the Leagues club will likely keep them going, Manly and Cronulla are the two in the worst position, the Sharks have $16m in cash but they recently sold property to get that cash and their Leagues club is closed for 2 years and operated at a loss last year and Manly are operating at a big loss and their owners are struggling, and they have spend thrift Des to deal with.

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@gallagher said in Corona impact on NRL...?:

$950 k grant to to club doesn’t make the club self sufficient,as some claim. We’re in trouble here.

It all has to be kept in perspective with cash and asset as well as operating cost, profit and loss of respective leagues and football clubs and grants from leagues clubs.

Parramatta as a comparison had a operating loss of $5.25 million despite a grant from the Leagues Club of $10m, the Eagles had a loss of $1.79 million in 2018 (they haven’t released their 2019 figures), their company has a deficiency of funds whereby its liabilities exceed its assets by $12.48 million, they also owe the NRL $2.4m, the sharks Leagues club had a $3.19m operating deficit last year and the football club are asset poor, even the Panthers though asset rich with $209m recently took out a loan of $64m.

Even Uncle Nick has taken a recent loss in personal wealth and the Leagues club slashed funding to the football club by almost $1.2m.

Kept in perspective
Rorters - grant $2,100,000 - profit $8,863 actual profit/loss (-$2,091,137)
Wests Tigers - grant $950,000 - profit $912,000 actual profit/loss (-$38,000)
Parramatta - grant $10,000,000 - loss $5.25m actual profit/loss (-$15,250,000)

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4 injured players who didn’t travel for round 1 have now flown over and went into isolation for 14 days and will be right to play after their 14 days, they have also been given permission to use their development players.