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Can’t stand Ch9 sackriding GI - it’s like they are obligated to praise his maiden captaincy game.

Apart from 2 big hits, he did jack shit in that game. ZILCH.

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We need a Ricky Stuart projector room style cleanout.

Anyone not on the list leaves the club effective immediately.

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The Big 4 put their foot off the gas the last 2 games to expedite the process?

The plot thickens…

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Christmas has come early!

Part of me actually hopes he remains for the rest of the season, just to prove that the board made the wrong decision and the way the past year has unfolded, needs to be justified with the bare truth. Here are our next games, surely the nail will be driven into the coffin and glued shut:

Rd 4 Storm
Rd 5 Dragons
Rd 6 Cowboys
Rd 7 Eels
Rd 8 Bulldogs
Rd 9 Sharks
Rd 10 Rabbitohs
Rd 11 Broncos
BYE

That’s 8 straight losses I see. Including the last 2. Need to flog the horse whilst it’s down to make change :deadhorse:

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Analise this one peeps.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/league/a/34645702/woods-signs-when-tigers-nrl-coach-decided/

“You don’t want to waste three or four years of footy and not be happy (under a coach you don’t like).”

Honestly, how did signing a contract be so dependent on how much you like a coach?

What about results? IMO this is just dumb saying this publicly from Woods. So if the Tigers are winless for the first 6 rounds and the club is seriously thinking about looking at another coach, will the big 4 want ‘out’ just because Taylor is going?

I really do think he is shooting himself in the foot (Woods). It would be a sh*t thing for him if he went somewhere else and we brought on a coach who actually gets us into the finals.

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So has anyone actually gone through Buzz’s article? There are 6 chapters - ALL the text messages between Simona and his Ex. Pretty revealing stuff. Tim did/does have a coke addiction and would splash up to $1500 on a weekend, he calculated when he would take the stuff (rep round or when we played Friday games) as to not get tested or caught until the following week. He was ruthless, naive and just plain dumb.

Actually reading those texts just highlights how dumb Gen Y are these days (no offence), but Simona and his ex knew full well what they were doing and continued doing it, with TIm asking if Text messages or Whatsapp messages can be traced after deleting…I mean come on, in this day and age, you would think one would know the answer to that. He takes no responsibility for his actions and once he is found out, wants nothing to do with her.

I pity him and the only thing I feel sorry for is how publicly revealing this all is, his parents and his brothers don’t need this and I’m sure they will cop it for the rest of their lives. It’s just s shit situation brought on by dumb, naive actions.

The only positive about all this is that Tim is not throwing the depression card, and is openly honest about it all - he wants to pay back the charities and sort his life out, not thinking about footy, I tip my hat to him if he keeps his word, but only time will tell.

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"BANNED NRL star Tim Simona has finally confessed to the lot - betting on games, cocaine use, ripping off a children’s charity and deceiving not only his Wests Tigers team mates but the code’s drug enforcers.

The 25-year-old admits the money that was supposed to aid sick children from auctioning autographed Wests Tigers jerseys went into his own pockets to feed his shocking gambling addiction and drug use.

A bitter falling out with ex-girlfriend Jaya Taki, following an abortion, led her to expose his match betting which resulted in the NRL seizing her mobile phone and hundreds of damning text messages between the pair.

Simona was deregistered by the NRL on Friday and handed an indefinite ban. He sat down with Phil Rothfield to finally tell the truth.

THE GAMBLING

Simona started betting when he was 18, mainly on poker machines but more recently on rugby league games.

Between March and August last year, he had 65 bets on matches totalling $905.

Of those 65 bets he backed a winner only once – the day he put $10 on himself at odds of $18 to score two or more tries in the round 17 game against the Penrith Panthers in July.

LISTEN AS TIM SIMONA TELLS BUZZ ROTHFIELD ABOUT HIS DRUG ADDICITION AND HOW HE RIPPED OFF CHARITIES


But this was nothing compared to the money he butchered on poker machines and a cocaine addiction.

He lost thousands of dollars every week in pubs and clubs across Sydney, disguising himself under a hoodie to blend in with the other punters.

“I could lose four or five grand in a weekend,” he said of his gambling.

“I’d lose a grand, and then two grand on the Saturday, I’d try and chase it up and get it back on the Sunday.

“Once you lose something big, you want to try and get it back, and then you just dig yourself into a deeper hole.

“I never wanted to discuss it with anyone. I was too ashamed, too embarrassed, I didn’t want anyone to know.

“Every time I walked past a pub or was waiting for a train I’d play the machines,” he said.

But it was his betting on matches that brought his gambling to the fore.

The NRL integrity unit found from mobile phone records and betting statements that he placed bets on St George Illawarra stars Benji Marshall and Adam Quinlan to score against his own team.


Tim Simona has opened up on his illegal gambling.
They didn’t.

Match videos The Sunday Telegraph and integrity unit have studied give no hint that he did anything unusual on the field to suit his betting patterns.

His bets were placed in an account that had been opened in the name of his then girlfriend Jaya Taki to avoid detection with corporate bookmaker Sportsbet.

In July he also backed the Bulldogs to win 1-12 against his own Wests Tigers team in a multi-bet with himself to be the first try scorer.

“When you’re gambling and when you’re desperate you don’t even think about what you’re betting on. You know the consequences but you still do it. That’s the disease and the addiction.

“It was so dumb and so stupid”.

THE LOSSES

It’s been a costly carnage. Probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Simona was being paid $325,000 a year at the Wests Tigers.

He has nothing to show for it. Not even a car.

He lives with his mum, dad and family in a $560 a week rented house in Macquarie Fields, in Sydney’s south west.

He pays the rent and supports the family.

He has no car because he lost his licence for five years in 2012 for repeated speeding infringements and getting caught driving while disqualified on the way home from a Wests Tigers training session.


Tim Simona discusses the gambling issues that ruined his NRL career

The judge warned him next time he’ll go to jail. He travels by train or gets a lift with friends.

It is surprising no-one at the Wests Tigers suspected there was a problem.

He has on four occasions he asked for and had been given advance payments on his contract when he had lost all his money or had to pay urgent bills.

His manager Isaac Moses knew Simona had a problem handling cash but could do little about it.

Moses set up a plan where his football earnings would go into a separate bank account and his player would be paid a salary.

It lasted only two months because Simona kept asking him for money.

“I was out of control,” Simona said.

“I was throwing away money. I didn’t realise how big my problem was until I got caught.”
Tim Simona has been banned indefinitely from playing in the NRL.

HOW THE SCANDAL UNFOLDED

Tim Simona had the same betting habits as any casual rugby league punter.

He liked first tryscorers, margin-betting and his average bet size was under $15.

Between round four last year (the Wests Tigers against the Parramatta Eels) and round 21 (the Roosters against the Broncos), the NRL star placed a total of 65 bets on games.

All up he outlaid $905 in a Sportsbet account that had been opened in the name of his ex-girlfriend to avoid detection.

This was nothing like the money he butchered on poker machines and cocaine use but a complete breach of the NRL’s rules for a player, especially betting on opponents.


Simona says he feels for the fans he let down.
The most concerning bets for the NRL were in the Round 20 game against St George Illawarra at ANZ Stadium when he backed two opposition players to score the first try.

Betting records show he put $10 on Dragons pair Benji Marshall and Adam Quinlan to score the opening try but increased his odds by combining the bets with the Wests Tigers to win by 13 plus.

The Wests Tigers won 25-12 but Kurt Mann scored the opening try for St George Illawarra.

Simona and the opponent he backed, Quinlan, played in the centres that day but a check of the match video shows they were on opposite sides of the field.

So it was always highly unlikely Simona would be in a position to intentionally miss a tackle on the players he had backed.

Although the following text message exchange with his then partner before the game was of huge concern to the integrity unit.

Jaya: Why you choosing that guy (Quinlan) to score first?

Simona: I’m marking him lol. If I let him.

Jaya: What does that mean? Oh he will be opposite you?

Simona: Yes.

JayaOhhhhh.

Simona: You think.

Jaya: Hmmm dangerous.

Simona: Yep.

Jaya: This is legit match-fixing now.


Jaya Taki set up the gambling account for Simona to use. She did this at his request.
Asked about the text messages and the bets, Simona said:

“I know it looks bad. It was just dumb, stupid. When you’re gambling and when you’re desperate you don’t even think about what you’re betting on.

“You know the consequences but you still do it. That’s the disease and the addiction.

“I would never let an opposition player score if I was there. Never. Never. Bets mean nothing when I’m on the field. I would never let me teammates down. The Wests Tigers jersey meant everything to me and still does.”

Simona’s bets ranged in size from $5 to $50.

Of those 65 bets he backed a winner only once — the day he put $10 on himself at odds of $18 to score two or more tries in the round 17 game against the Penrith Panthers in July.

In that same game he also backed fullback James Tedesco to score the first try with his opponents the Panthers to win by 1-12.

The Wests Tigers won the game 34-26 and Tedesco missed out on the first try.

All bets were placed via the Sportsbet app on Simona’s own mobile phone.

On some weekends he had as many as eight bets different games.

“I would never let an opposition player score if I was there. Never. Never.” ~Tim Simona

The betting continued until he was secretly summoned to appear before the integrity unit on August 17 last year following a tip-off from his former girlfriend and a post on Facebook after their relationship ended.

So secret not even his manager Isaac Moses knew about it.

Simona attended the meeting with former Wests Tigers general manager Mark O’Neill but denied any knowledge of the Sportsbet account and told the integrity unit he never bet on rugby league.

He’s now admitted to be a liar.

The records show Simona was betting small but trying to win big.

His first bet in late March 2016 was $10 his team mate Sauaso Sue paying $61 to be first try scorer against the Parramatta Eels.

In that same game he put $20 on himself to be first try scorer.

The following week another $20 on himself to be first try scorer against the Cronulla Sharks.

He says his team mates and Wests Tigers officials had no idea what he was doing.

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Simona deregistered by NRL

The only evidence was when the integrity unit downloaded all the Whats App messages in his former girlfriend’s mobile phone between March and August.

On March 25 Simona texted his girlfriend a number of times: “Can you create a account for sports bet so I can bet on the footy under your name cause I can’t lol.

“Whatever I use from your card I’ll pay you in cash. That sounds better, right?

They knew they were in dangerous territory.

Simona: “Imagine the coppers tracking what we say.”

Girlfriend: “I swear I was thinking that.”

Simona: “It’s a $30k fine and my career gone. It’s your account to I think I’m safe.”

At first the Wests Tigers centre had to instruct Jaya Taki on how to use the betting account.


“You’ll figure it out. Just find NRL head to head/Tigers v Parra/ first tryscorer, think I’m paying 18 bucks.”

By midway through the season he was using the account log on himself and placing the bets via his mobile phone.

There was serious concern about his text messages before the Wests Tigers played the Panthers on July 2. They discuss backing Wests Tigers winger Jordan Rankin.

Simona says: “His my winger — I’ll pass him the ball to score.”

Despite the damaging text messages, Simona insists throughout the interview he was playing to win every week. That once he ran onto the field, the gambling had no effect or on his performance.

Certainly videos The Sunday Telegraph and integrity unit have watched give no hint that he did anything unusual on the field to suit his betting patterns.

“I’m just embarrassed and ashamed,” he said.

“It was so dumb and so stupid. Importantly the players know I’d never be involved in match-fixing.

“They’ve all been texting me since it happened.

“They know what I did was wrong but they understand I always gave 100 per cent.”

THE BETS SIMONA PLACED

Grouped bets in the table below indicate wagers that were tied together in multis:

BET ODDS RESULT MATCH MARKET SELECTION/WIN-LOSS (W-L)

$10 61 LOSS Tigers v Eels First tryscorer Sauaso Sue (L)
$20 18 LOSS Tigers v Eels First tryscorer Tim Simona (L)
$20 18 LOSS Tigers v Sharks First tryscorer Tim Simona (L)
$30 17 LOSS Titans v Dragons First goal scorecast Anthony Don (L)
$30 17 LOSS Titans v Dragons First goal scorecast Titans 1 to 12 (L)
$20 17 LOSS Bulldogs v Warriors First goal scorecast Curtis Rona (L)
$20 17 LOSS Bulldogs v Warriors First goal scorecast Bulldogs 1 to 12 (L)
$10 29 LOSS Tigers v Storm First goal scorecast James Tedesco (L)
$10 29 LOSS Tigers v Storm First goal scorecast Storm 1 to 12 (L)
$20 20 LOSS Rabbitohs v Tigers First tryscorer Tim Simona (L)
$50 18 LOSS Tigers v Bulldogs First tryscorer Tim Simona (L)
$10 31 LOSS Storm v Tigers Score 2 or more tries in 80min Tim Simona (L)
$5 26 LOSS Storm v Tigers First tryscorer Tim Simona (L)
$30 31 LOSS Storm v Tigers Score 2 or more tries in 80min Tim Simona (L)
$20 26 LOSS Storm v Tigers First tryscorer Tim Simona (L)
$10 29 LOSS Tigers v Panthers First goal scorecast James Tedesco (L)
$10 29 LOSS Tigers v Panthers First goal scorecast Panthers 1 to 12 (L)
$10 26 LOSS Tigers v Panthers Will there be extra time? Yes (L)
$10 46 LOSS Tigers v Panthers First goal scorecast Tim Simona §
$10 46 LOSS Tigers v Panthers First goal scorecast Tigers 1 to 12 (W)
$10 18 WIN Tigers v Panthers Score 2 or more tries in 80min Tim Simona (W)
$10 14 LOSS Tigers v Panthers Last tryscorer Jordan Rankin (L)
$10 14 LOSS Tigers v Panthers Last tryscorer David Nofoaluma (L)
$10 61 LOSS Sea Eagles v Dragons First goal scorecast Jorge Taufua §
$10 61 LOSS Sea Eagles v Dragons First goal scorecast Dragons 13+ (L)
$5 36 LOSS Eels v Roosters First goal scorecast Clint Gutherson (L)
$5 36 LOSS Eels v Roosters First goal scorecast Eels 1 to 12 (W)
$10 51 LOSS Eels v Roosters First goal scorecast Shaun Kenny-Dowall (L)
$10 51 LOSS Eels v Roosters First goal scorecast Eels 13+ (L)
$10 26 LOSS Eels v Roosters First tryscorer Corey Norman (L)
$10 71 LOSS Eels v Roosters First goal scorecast Dale Copley (L)
$10 71 LOSS Eels v Roosters First goal scorecast Eels 1 to 12 (W)
$10 41 LOSS Bulldogs v Tigers Score 2 or more tries in 80min Sam Kasiano (L)
$10 86 LOSS Bulldogs v Tigers First goal scorecast Josh Addo-Carr §
$10 86 LOSS Bulldogs v Tigers First goal scorecast Tigers 13+ (L)
$10 76 LOSS Bulldogs v Tigers First goal scorecast Tim Simona (L)
$10 76 LOSS Bulldogs v Tigers First goal scorecast Bulldogs 1 to 12 (W)
$5 91 LOSS Bulldogs v Tigers Score 3 or more tries in 80min Tim Simona (L)
$5 18 LOSS Bulldogs v Tigers First tryscorer Tim Simona (L)
$10 36 LOSS Dragons v Titans First goal scorecast Jason Nightingale (L)
$10 36 LOSS Dragons v Titans First goal scorecast Titans 1 to 12 (L)
$10 15 LOSS Broncos v Panthers Win try combo Latu to score try & Broncos win (L)
$10 9 LOSS Broncos v Panthers First goal scorecast Corey Oates (L)
$10 9 LOSS Broncos v Panthers First goal scorecast Broncos 13+ (L)
$20 36 LOSS Broncos v Panthers First goal scorecast Josh Mansour (L)
$20 36 LOSS Broncos v Panthers First goal scorecast Broncos 13+ (L)
$20 36 LOSS Broncos v Panthers First goal scorecast Dallin Watene-Zelezniak (L)
$20 36 LOSS Broncos v Panthers First goal scorecast Broncos 13+ (L)
$10 131 LOSS Dragons v Tigers First goal scorecast Benji Matshall (L)
$10 131 LOSS Dragons v Tigers First goal scorecast Tigers 13+ (W)
$10 66 LOSS Dragons v Tigers First goal scorecast Adam Quinlan (L)
$10 66 LOSS Dragons v Tigers First goal scorecast Tigers 13+ (W)
$10 26 LOSS Sharks v Knights First goal scorecast Nathan Ross (L)
$10 26 LOSS Sharks v Knights First goal scorecast Sharks 13+ (W)
$10 23 LOSS Raiders v Warriors First tryscorer Josh Papalii (L)
$20 36 LOSS Dragons v Tigers First goal scorecast Kevin Naiqama (L)
$20 36 LOSS Dragons v Tigers First goal scorecast Tigers 1 to 12 (L)
$30 19 LOSS Roosters v Broncos Win first try combo Tupou to score 1st try, Broncos win (L)
$20 31 LOSS Roosters v Broncos First goal scorecast Corey Oates
$20 31 LOSS Roosters v Broncos First goal scorecast Roosters 1 to 12 (L)
$30 8.5 LOSS Roosters v Broncos Win try combo Cordner to score try, Broncos win (L)
$10 76 LOSS Roosters v Broncos First goal scorecast Jake Friend (L)
$10 76 LOSS Roosters v Broncos First goal scorecast Roosters 1 to 12 (L)
$10 71 LOSS Roosters v Broncos First goal scorecast Ben Hunt (L)
$10 71 LOSS Roosters v Broncos First goal scorecast Broncos 13+ (L)

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Benji Marshall to sign with Souths in the off season…and the robbie/benji show carves us up at LO 😲

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@Jason Taylor:

“But now we are more composed and more controlled, playing a style that wins us games more consistently and that is going to get us to the semi-finals.

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@Tony33:

Well here we are, heading into another off season. Except this time is different to any other in the last few years. The way we ended the year, the return of Teddy and the end of the Robbie Farah saga (finally!!) means we head into this off season with what should be a renewed sense of confidence.

A strong off season is really needed as I seriously think 2017 is going to be the toughest and most competitive season ever.
The cowboys, broncos, melbourne will continue to fly high whilst the sharks, raiders, panthers and titans will improve even more. Clubs like the roosters, manly, warriors and souths will also improve and challenge for the 8. We need alot to go right for us to make the 8 next year but im pretty confident we can make the 8 just from the last 2 months of our season and the obvious cultural change on and off the field.

My 17 for next season:

1. Tedesco
2. Nofoaluma
3. Simona
4. Naqaima
5. Rankin
6. Moses
7. Brooks
8. Woods ©
9. Ballin
10. Sue
11. Ailoai
12. Lawerence
13. Taylor

14. Grant
15. Ava
16. Felise
17. Chee-Kam

Absolute priorities this off season if we are to make the top 8:

  • fix the defensive deficiencies on that right hand side (Moses, Naqaima and Nofo)
  • figure out away to limit Simona’s brain dead plays
  • figure out a way for Brooks to complement Moses more effectively and get him more in the game.
  • fix Brooks’ and Moses’ one on one tackling.
  • practice goal kicking every bloody day !!
  • work on earning repeat sets (short kicking game)

If we can improve these facets by at least 50% heading into round 1 2017, the top 8 beckons.

Honestly, I look at that team sheet and my first reaction is: