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What I find funny is McGuire blames “attitude “, very poor choice of words it’s not attitude that has caused the losses , otherwise if it is “attitude” the team has ,assigned massive problems . The one player that actually did have what I classify a attitude problem will be back once his suspension is over . For me what BJ. Did that was attitude , missing tackles etc , has got to do more with trust , ability , and character to dig in

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@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@Rugba said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

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@TillLindemann said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

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@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@formerguest said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@formerguest said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

Victorian restrictions just announced, extremely tough.

There will be a night time curfew will be implemented across Melbourne from 8:00pm to 5:00am from tonight.

Melbourne residents will only be allowed to shop and exercise within 5km of their home.

All students across the state will return to home-based learning. Childcare will be closed.

Takeaway is allowed to be continued.

Regional Victoria will move to stage 3 restrictions from Thursday.

Good, though tough on whole because of the selfish few. They need to consider public shaming of the worst and/or serial lockdown offenders and passing stiffer penalties.

I don’t like public shaming.

Not a fan of it either, though if you are a serial offender at endangering life in a pandemic, you have lost the right to privacy.

Conversely, if one of those that have been left out of what should have been universal federal living payments, then their case rather than their name should be made public. I understand that there are supposed long overdue changes to this area that were called for back in March.

While I total condemn the behaviour of the 2 girls in Queensland who brought Covid back to that state, I feel the public outing and attack on those girls to be wrong. I have no problem with severe penalties against them but it turned into much more than that. Those 2 girls are 19 and I don’t like the way they are being attacked online and it actually creates are situation that puts them at risk of violence.

Yes i agree, I haven’t seen or heard the Victorian truck driver, who brought it into NSW when he visited the Crossroads Hotel cop as much flak. Young women are easy targets for vile internet trolls.

The difference is the truckie didn’t hide anything, and cooperated with authorities about everywhere he’d been (correct me if I’m wrong).

I don’t think it’s targeting women either - Latrell and JAC were splashed all over the news, weren’t they, for something that was dumb, but not on the same level.

I tend to oppose public shaming when it’s for someone having ‘incorrect’ or unpopular opinions, beliefs etc, ‘moral issues’ and so on. But for actual crimes, I don’t see why someone’s identity should be hidden.

And if shaming acts as a deterrent to John Citizen recklessly infecting and killing an innocent 80 year old, well, it’s served a purpose.

What if it acts as an ignition for someone to take matters into their own hands, what if the reports are wrong, I guess we are no longer innocent until proven guilty in this country?

Dude the whole word operated this way we are all guilty. Don’t you read twitter and editorials
We are environmental vandals , msigynists , racists , first thing they mentioned when we had lockdowns was increase in domestic violence like all me were itching to do DV behind closed doors .
All I know is as white male , I’m guilty of all and any offences and I’m the evil of the world and it’s ills . So back to your point everyone is guilty until proven innocent ( ask jack de Belin about justice , 2 years he can’t ply his trade and he hasn’t gone to court yet )

Part of your post is rubbish mate, but I’ll let that go. Just because that is what happens in this social media driven society today does not make it ok, I’ll admit I have been dragged into it at times but that doesn’t make it right or prevent us from improving the situation.

Fair enough and you make a valid point but I believe the world on the whole (me included ) jumps the gun and points guilt before anything is proven

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@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@tigger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@TillLindemann said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@Spud_Murphy said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@formerguest said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@formerguest said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

Victorian restrictions just announced, extremely tough.

There will be a night time curfew will be implemented across Melbourne from 8:00pm to 5:00am from tonight.

Melbourne residents will only be allowed to shop and exercise within 5km of their home.

All students across the state will return to home-based learning. Childcare will be closed.

Takeaway is allowed to be continued.

Regional Victoria will move to stage 3 restrictions from Thursday.

Good, though tough on whole because of the selfish few. They need to consider public shaming of the worst and/or serial lockdown offenders and passing stiffer penalties.

I don’t like public shaming.

Not a fan of it either, though if you are a serial offender at endangering life in a pandemic, you have lost the right to privacy.

Conversely, if one of those that have been left out of what should have been universal federal living payments, then their case rather than their name should be made public. I understand that there are supposed long overdue changes to this area that were called for back in March.

While I total condemn the behaviour of the 2 girls in Queensland who brought Covid back to that state, I feel the public outing and attack on those girls to be wrong. I have no problem with severe penalties against them but it turned into much more than that. Those 2 girls are 19 and I don’t like the way they are being attacked online and it actually creates are situation that puts them at risk of violence.

Yes i agree, I haven’t seen or heard the Victorian truck driver, who brought it into NSW when he visited the Crossroads Hotel cop as much flak. Young women are easy targets for vile internet trolls.

The difference is the truckie didn’t hide anything, and cooperated with authorities about everywhere he’d been (correct me if I’m wrong).

I don’t think it’s targeting women either - Latrell and JAC were splashed all over the news, weren’t they, for something that was dumb, but not on the same level.

I tend to oppose public shaming when it’s for someone having ‘incorrect’ or unpopular opinions, beliefs etc, ‘moral issues’ and so on. But for actual crimes, I don’t see why someone’s identity should be hidden.

And if shaming acts as a deterrent to John Citizen recklessly infecting and killing an innocent 80 year old, well, it’s served a purpose.

But are we talking here about the media reporting on something and naming the individuals involved or are we talking about the punishment of public shaming.

the initial post on this aspect was that the punishment for those who flout coronavirus restrictions should be public shaming. That is, that the authorities should publicly name and shame them.

that’s different to the media just reporting on high profile cases.

These girls have also been judged, condemned and punished by the public before they have had the right to defend themselves. That is not right.

As per my earlier post referring it to rugby league , jack de bellin or even better josh Reynolds was considered “guilty” by many even on this site when that little clip made its rounds .
Again I have no sympathy for anyone doing the wrong thing during this pandemic , there has been so much coverage of it , you have to be a truly selfish person to put others at risk

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@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@TillLindemann said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@Spud_Murphy said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@formerguest said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@formerguest said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cochise said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

Victorian restrictions just announced, extremely tough.

There will be a night time curfew will be implemented across Melbourne from 8:00pm to 5:00am from tonight.

Melbourne residents will only be allowed to shop and exercise within 5km of their home.

All students across the state will return to home-based learning. Childcare will be closed.

Takeaway is allowed to be continued.

Regional Victoria will move to stage 3 restrictions from Thursday.

Good, though tough on whole because of the selfish few. They need to consider public shaming of the worst and/or serial lockdown offenders and passing stiffer penalties.

I don’t like public shaming.

Not a fan of it either, though if you are a serial offender at endangering life in a pandemic, you have lost the right to privacy.

Conversely, if one of those that have been left out of what should have been universal federal living payments, then their case rather than their name should be made public. I understand that there are supposed long overdue changes to this area that were called for back in March.

While I total condemn the behaviour of the 2 girls in Queensland who brought Covid back to that state, I feel the public outing and attack on those girls to be wrong. I have no problem with severe penalties against them but it turned into much more than that. Those 2 girls are 19 and I don’t like the way they are being attacked online and it actually creates are situation that puts them at risk of violence.

Yes i agree, I haven’t seen or heard the Victorian truck driver, who brought it into NSW when he visited the Crossroads Hotel cop as much flak. Young women are easy targets for vile internet trolls.

The difference is the truckie didn’t hide anything, and cooperated with authorities about everywhere he’d been (correct me if I’m wrong).

I don’t think it’s targeting women either - Latrell and JAC were splashed all over the news, weren’t they, for something that was dumb, but not on the same level.

I tend to oppose public shaming when it’s for someone having ‘incorrect’ or unpopular opinions, beliefs etc, ‘moral issues’ and so on. But for actual crimes, I don’t see why someone’s identity should be hidden.

And if shaming acts as a deterrent to John Citizen recklessly infecting and killing an innocent 80 year old, well, it’s served a purpose.

What if it acts as an ignition for someone to take matters into their own hands, what if the reports are wrong, I guess we are no longer innocent until proven guilty in this country?

Dude the whole word operated this way we are all guilty. Don’t you read twitter and editorials
We are environmental vandals , msigynists , racists , first thing they mentioned when we had lockdowns was increase in domestic violence like all me were itching to do DV behind closed doors .
All I know is as white male , I’m guilty of all and any offences and I’m the evil of the world and it’s ills . So back to your point everyone is guilty until proven innocent ( ask jack de Belin about justice , 2 years he can’t ply his trade and he hasn’t gone to court yet )

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All I got out of it is him making excuses
Paraphrasing “ it’s hard to come off the bench with limited time especially halves “
Suck it up buttercup that should not have even been mentioned

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I have no sympathy that the two girls were outed and splashed all over media. what is good for footballers is good for rest of society . Where is the outrage and sympathy when nrl players are caught during or news Corp using geographic lenses to get pic of Adam Elliott’s penis. Or splashing myth Pearce and monaghans dog play or carneys bubbler incident .
You can say these guys are in media spotlight but these girls allegedly did the wrong thing during a “pandemic” in which they have put lives at risk , forced possible closures of establishments , affected others livelihoods .
I didn’t have sympathy for Cleary, ado Carr and Mitchell when they were doing whatever whilst we were adhering to lockdown laws.

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@PJ said in If Madge fails.....:

@Rugba said in If Madge fails.....:

@twentyforty said in If Madge fails.....:

@mike said in If Madge fails.....:

@twentyforty said in If Madge fails.....:

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.

Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is

  • it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
    Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

Not so much as a statement from the board saying “we are behind madge 100%”, more so a show of support by extending his contract. He is the right man for the job. Give him 10yrs for all I care. Which other coach out there screams results for us besides Bellamy? Maybe Robinson? We wouldn’t get him anyway. Madge is our coach at least for the next 5yrs.

Agree extend him 2 years

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@twentyforty said in If Madge fails.....:

@mike said in If Madge fails.....:

@twentyforty said in If Madge fails.....:

I think it’s about time we heard from Lee and other board members showing some solidarity and support of Madge.

What like Madge has the full support of the board? If that happens it’s the beginning of the end for Madge.

It’s not needed or required and I certainly wouldn’t want to hear those words.

If the board gets involved publicly then there is a serious issue beyond the scope of the coach and it’s bye bye Madge.

Ha ha, Mike, I see your point, but there are many other ways board members can publicly display solidarity without using that cliche which means the door is now open. Ha ha.
It’s very important that the players are aware that player management and board are as one. We’ve all seen cases where the players perform badly to influence the boards view of the coaching roster. Some players find the training too hard etc.

The board should not be seen or heard . Honestly do you hear about the roosters board , lately and only very lately we have heard anything from Politis

As for board showing some support , you are overdramatising the situation . Yes bad result and bad season , fixing up a club takes time , getting into the 8 is great but no use if it’s not sutainable .

As much as I hate quoting Phil Gould , as he is mr 20/20 hindsight and mostly full of it he has made good points too and that is

  • it takes. Coach / board to ruin a club with 12-18 months BUT takes. Coach / board 5 years to fix it .
    Look at the mess dib/ des created In the end at dogs , 3 years and still trying to get out of it , but that board has a plan and they have not been falling for stupid media pressure for them to fix it, I guarantee dogs will be a force in 2 years .

Now with madge, it’s his 2nd year it takes time , you can see he is building up the young and junior base, trying to install a culture this all takes time. It’s not a quick fix , board has not panicked and madge does not seem to be panicking .

This is why the board “showing support” will have opposite affect and cause more dramas and the same old same old as past 10years will happen at the tigers

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Over the course of a year playing at the one ground allows to make it a fortress and allows you to win majority of home games. Having the odd game at LO or CS does not allow them to be fortresses to build a advantage

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Whilst this year due to the covid situation it does not apply so much , I really do believe the tigers need to settle on an home ground , whether it’s Campbelltown , Leichhardt , Homebush or sfs (bankwest whilst great is in actual parra and will always be considered the eels home ground ).
Why do they need a home ground ?

If they want to be semi finalist you need to build a fortress at your home ground , why do you think manly are always in the mix , they win majority of games at brooky, eels ditto with bankwest and many other clubs .
The tigers need a fortress of their own otherwise they give a head start to all the other teams each and every year.

Then you have the whole identity issue , but really by playing at all these different grounds they give up their home ground advantage .

To make the 8 you generally have to win half your games , build a fortress and you secure 80% of those wins