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@willow said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

@cochise said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

@mikey said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

@willow said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

@mikey said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

@willow said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

@mikey said in Wests Tigers - Who are we..:

Mission statements are hollow words issued by people who have no idea apart from a belief that an ideology will fix everything.
I’m not a communist and I’m not having a shot at religious people but do like Marx’s words - ‘Religion is the opiate of the masses’ - mission statements are the same. Hollow, meaningless words.
A better fix is to a put together a team with a goal and the will to work together to achieve it.

Tell that to the military and law enforcement agencies around the world. We use Mission Statements all the time, and we take them seriously.

You’re welcome to your point of view. My experience is the opposite.

Well I’m speaking from experience Mikey, as you are. Obviously we work in different industries with different mindsets. In my profession we do what we say and leadership is paramount to achieving any Mission Statement or Tasking.

I do agree leadership is vital but it needs to be good, rational leadership not mindless slogans and that is my point. I have met very few people who buy into Mission Statements because they don’t believe in them but clearly that is not your experience - and I respect that.

Usually when there is a lack of buy in it is due to the statement not truly reflecting the organisation and not being followed through with by leadership.

Consultation and transparency go a long way when writing and acting out on such things. The troops/players are the guys getting the tough stuff done, they need to know that they are being listened to and supported by management - so buy in starts with the boots on the ground - let them determine what they need to get the job done, go around the room/through the organisation and make sure everyone understands what the intent is, agree upon it, then get it done. Not hard but the right approach goes a long way based on my experiences.

Agreed. Management are there to put in place the enabling infrastructure, processes and finances. The broader team including all the coaching and support staff should define their purpose so they own it. Collectively the organisation delivers on it and calls it out if it steers off track. When everyone knows where the bar is set, it’s not hard to reject mediocrity and those that bring it.

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In my organisation, After a difficult business trading period, the CEO made a point of setting a new purpose. He wanted employees to come up with the purpose statement that underpinned our values which came after. There were workshops and everything you’d expect to get people engaged and land on a final statement but 10 years later once we turned that corner the purpose statement has survived even under a new CEO. If you get it right people do invest in it and it sets the business up for success because people can see how their efforts contribute to that success and are held accountable. I reckon get the players to come up with the purpose and values so they own it.

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@willow said in WT v Eels live game thread:

I think the frustrating thing from tonights game is that when we held the ball and dominated possession, we caused some real problems. Our big problem is defending mistakes and defending consistently across the course of the game. Defensive structure obviously needs an overhaul but defence is an attitude as well, and the players really need to have a good hard look at themselves there.

So true. To quote Madge, we need to learn how to build pressure and maintain it. We can build it and then an error sees us marched back downfield. Usually resulting in points to our opposition.

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@Telltails said in A Rugby League record to the WT:

Trent Robinson and team can be congratulated for the Roosters worst loss to the Rabbitiohs in history - a far more significant stat from this weekend I would think.

At least we can feel good that no one put 60 on us this year 🤪

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@hobbo1 said in My 2 cents on the Result:

@gallagher said in My 2 cents on the Result:

@hobbo1 said in My 2 cents on the Result:

@tig_prmz said in My 2 cents on the Result:

MCK won us 2 games last year with clutch plays so we re-signed him for 2 years. Still not a bad decision and a good player to have in the top 20

Mikaele/Twal have not adapted to 2020 well. As long as they’re willing to try hard, they should improve.

Mikaele and Twal have regressed big time …plodders United

Never saw much in Mikaele but Twal had a really bog average season . He was my biggest disappointment

Twal
No step
No offload
No lateral movement
Plodder

The offloads from Parra gave them a lot of momentum last night which meant they had players in support. We are not good at either.

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@Sart0ri said in Thanks Harry:

Harry’s determination to tackle every run, back up every team mate in defence and chase every loose ball is unbeatable. His desire to compete for everything will be a massive loss.

That was his gift to us. He showed us why the Storm are consistent winners. He brought to us what he learned in his limited appearances For Melbs but it was enough to show us what we need to do to compete in every play. I hope we are smart enough to take on that attitude into next year.

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@mike said in Positivity's To Take Away From 2020:

Player loan deals work

And hopefully Harry’s legacy is that he showed us what it means to compete in every play. He gave us an insight into the Storm universe and Momo will bring some of that back. It’s up to those playing on in 2021 to take that on board.

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Got two tickets for my first live game for the year. The result could be my best or worst $100 spend since the last time I was at BankWest but seeing off Benji and Rowdy for their service to the club I reckon it’s a good investment. To see us knockoff the slimers would be priceless.

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@willow said in Your side to take on the Eels:

  1. Doueihi

  2. Nofo/Talau

  3. BJ

  4. Rowdy (swan song, he’ll be named)

  5. AJ

  6. Benji

  7. Brooks

  8. Twal

  9. Grant

  10. Eisenhuth

  11. Lucy

  12. McIntyre

  13. Taylor

  14. Liddle

  15. Mikaele

  16. Musgrove

  17. Blore

See if we can hold Parra in the middle to start the game and then hopefully add some impact off the bench. Benji will be named along with Rowdy and Taylor deserves a send off and will tackle anything that moves.

Agree Taylor deserves a farewell. He always put in even if he did give away a lot of ruck penalties.

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And we avoided the spoon again even after we played like spooners half the season 🤪

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@happy_tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@StarswithStripes said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@JoshColeman99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@JoshColeman99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

A convicted wife beating anti-vaxxer who has a reputation for bagging out the disabled.

Sounds like the sort of bloke we’d want to build our club around.

He’s a great player that’s all that matters. Does he train and play hard? If so, then we should chase them

Plenty of absolute idiot players in the NRL who have done terrible things, taking the moral high ground gets you no where nowadays. All that matters is if they can play

I can take a guy like JAC who flaunted COVID rules to go on a shoot. I could even take a guy who DUI’d. They are both examples of reckless behaviour, but I cannot abide someone who beats their partner. Domestic violence is something that does not sit right with me. You’re free to disagree obviously, but I believe the club and league in general needs to apply better judgment with guys like this. I wasn’t happy about Musgrove signing until his conviction was overturned.

Being a great player doesn’t absolve you of having to be accountable for your actions. He showed his colours towards women again when Molan made fun of islander surnames (which I don’t agree with either.)

I agree domestic violence is disgusting and he shouldn’t be allowed in the NRL, but at the same time while these people are allowed in the NRL we can’t take the moral high ground and fall behind other clubs. Being the good guys won’t get us into finals.

I think there needs to be more than one filter to accept a player into our club and it needs to be more than just because they are a great player. That didn’t work for the AMP CEO who was a gun investment manager but had a history of sexually predatory behaviour. Investors and staff called it out and look how that is going for their reputation and share price. I think the families of West Tigers supporters would be equally outraged.

I don’t know …I’m pretty outraged with the lack of finals footy

Yeah same here. The frustrating thing is we’ve had a lot of great players at our disposal and still couldn’t crack it.

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@JoshColeman99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@JoshColeman99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

A convicted wife beating anti-vaxxer who has a reputation for bagging out the disabled.

Sounds like the sort of bloke we’d want to build our club around.

He’s a great player that’s all that matters. Does he train and play hard? If so, then we should chase them

Plenty of absolute idiot players in the NRL who have done terrible things, taking the moral high ground gets you no where nowadays. All that matters is if they can play

I can take a guy like JAC who flaunted COVID rules to go on a shoot. I could even take a guy who DUI’d. They are both examples of reckless behaviour, but I cannot abide someone who beats their partner. Domestic violence is something that does not sit right with me. You’re free to disagree obviously, but I believe the club and league in general needs to apply better judgment with guys like this. I wasn’t happy about Musgrove signing until his conviction was overturned.

Being a great player doesn’t absolve you of having to be accountable for your actions. He showed his colours towards women again when Molan made fun of islander surnames (which I don’t agree with either.)

I agree domestic violence is disgusting and he shouldn’t be allowed in the NRL, but at the same time while these people are allowed in the NRL we can’t take the moral high ground and fall behind other clubs. Being the good guys won’t get us into finals.

I think there needs to be more than one filter to accept a player into our club and it needs to be more than just because they are a great player. That didn’t work for the AMP CEO who was a gun investment manager but had a history of sexually predatory behaviour. Investors and staff called it out and look how that is going for their reputation and share price. I think the families of West Tigers supporters would be equally outraged.

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@rihannafan1 said in Worst teams in recent history:

I’m going to call the Broncos the worst team in recent memory. Curious what others think?

I think the Broncos will end up with the spoon. I’ve seen quite a bit of them this year ‘thanks’ to Channel 9 and they are the worst coached side I can remember since one of Kearney’s Parra teams, 2011 I’ll go with. Injuries or not this Broncos team have zero discipline and no character. I can’t remember any team consistently getting beaten by so much.

My memory is a bit fuzzier for 2000-2009 but there were some awful Souths teams in that time. We’ve had bad ones but I don’t think we’ve ever deserved the spoon, maybe 2013 but that’s it.

Honourable mentions:
Newcastle 2016
Parra 2011
Titans 2019

After watching them against the Titans tonight, can’t disagree. That game was there to be taken and they just could not get on top. Coach killing errors.

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OK time to put it to bed. Dave Middleton says last 4 years team kicking penalty goal as first scoring play has won 60% of games. Fun fact sorted.

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@Geo said in Taking a penalty goal for first points:

@hobbo1 said in Taking a penalty goal for first points:

@Geo said in Taking a penalty goal for first points:

@StarswithStripes said in Taking a penalty goal for first points:

@Geo said in Taking a penalty goal for first points:

I’d say it would be closer to 50/50 in the history of Rugbeh League

I put it to Dave Middleton and he replied this year penalty goal has been first scoring play in 16 games. Team kicking first goal has won 7 and lost 9. I’ve gone back to see if he knows what it is historically. Stay tuned.

That’s pretty close to 50/50

Close but no cigar

Small sample size as it’s only this year…50/50 in the history of Rugbeh League

Who said we don’t answer all the big questions…

Mmm maybe starting to drift into the off season looking for answers to age old questions.