Luke was the DallyM halfback of the year 3 years ago , our player of the year , the year before last , and had a down year last year . Some of you guys do my head in . So hard to live up to your asinine , and downright ridiculous expectations . Seriously watch the games last years . Sooo many times , Luke had the play set up , was screaming for the ball , Benji screams the overcall word , because every team has one ( basically it’s a spur of the moment I see something and it’s on . It’s to allow off the cuff footy) , so because of this the dummy half has to pass to benji , and most of the time nothing happens .
Go watch it . It got so bad , Grant actually stopped looking for Brooks first , which is what was supposed to happen , and just going to benji.

Happy new year guys ! Hopefully this year , this team can do something special , and help with the monotony of life . We all feel it I reckon . Don’t let the black dog get a firm grip over you . Even if it means arguing with no nothings like me on This place , just to let off some steam .

@sleeve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Hey guys, staying under the radar is good, the less the opposition knows, the more it is to our benefit. The first couple of games although hard , are winnable. The opposing side will not be able to get a read on our game, as we have around 8 new players and no game recordings for them to study,.

Michael Chammas is the only “expert” with a brain in his head , basically saying we have spent the last 2 years recruiting the best talented juniors available . Which is true .
The only reason they think our halves are unstable is because we trialed everyone there , which is what trials are . . Hot tip . AD and Brooks are our halves . Liddle and Simpkins / Mbye will share the 9 . Mbye / Laurie the one . And first drop for halves is Mbye / madden .

Also it’s ok if Simpkin spends the year destroying CC cup teams . He’s 19 !! If Mbye moves on then he comes up. We get an injury , he comes up . It’s pretty sorted IMO.

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@Russell said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

I give up Avo, Gal, Hobo and all the other Pascoe Haters.

Last week he forgot to put the garbage out, He signed Madge and then let him go holidays, Didn’t comb his hair for the Q & A, He signed Jennings not Madge etc.

I think he is responsible for the crown of thorns starfish, global warming and just aboeverything else that is dodgy.

You guys should start a petition - we want a CEO.

Obviously in your opinions we don’t have one.

I don’t hate Pascoe, I’ve never even met him. But I think he’s proven himself to be a poor CEO. I don’t think much of the board either.

Based on what ? He’s currently presiding over the first profitable period in west’s tigers history .
It’s been stating numerous times that his background is finance . Seems like financially we are doing alright .
He has finally gotten a COE off the ground . This has been talked about for 10 years and it’s finally here. Signed 2 top of the tree coaches , by all accounts.
Totally gutted the back room , to now have a really solid corporate roster.
Oh wait he didn’t sign your favourite footy player … YOU SUCK PASCOE … bla bla

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@clontarfkid said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Wish I cld share the optimism,but the way I see it is weve lost our best player(Harry)and our best playmaker(Benji)nd have picked up a couple of prop forwards who were surplus to requirements at Penrith and Eels.Nothing or nobody else
Cant see how were a better team in 2021,and with Titans /Warriors /Dragons/Broncos/Dogs all improving with player and /or coach changes ,were a real chance at the spoon unless Madge gets em firing…
Sure hope not,but reality bites

We also lost our worst defensive player in Benji
So our defence should hold better you would hope
Harry is a loss but its time for Liddle to shine

The benji addition by subtraction, IMO , cannot be underestimated.
The defence is obvious , but seriously so many times this year we had something setup for him to over call. And I honestly think grant got a bit star struck by him at times , He went to him so much more often , even when it wasn’t on. Liddle seemed to look for Brooks first , benji second , which IMO , it was one of the reasons we were far more direct when he was on the field . As is known , Brooks looks to run first , but it’s direct and at the middles . Benji would skirt across field, and at times collapse the space for his centres , which is why at times it seemed BJ was doing nothing .

Don’t shoot me , Benji lovers , he’s still our greatest player , I just am calling it how I see it .

I said a few weeks ago , if it came down to Angus Chrichton and JAC, considering where our team is at , I pick Chrichton every time . The kid is a legit origin player , who has fallen out of favour at the only premier league type fickleness club in Aus . The backs are not where we lack . We lack speed , sure , but we lack defence and reliability more . We have proven we can score points . But defend attacking raids is our Achilles heel. If you added a Chrichton with Tamou and Stefano , and suddenly there’s some starch in the defensive line .

@clontarfkid said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Wish I cld share the optimism,but the way I see it is weve lost our best player(Harry)and our best playmaker(Benji)nd have picked up a couple of prop forwards who were surplus to requirements at Penrith and Eels.Nothing or nobody else
Cant see how were a better team in 2021,and with Titans /Warriors /Dragons/Broncos/Dogs all improving with player and /or coach changes ,were a real chance at the spoon unless Madge gets em firing…
Sure hope not,but reality bites

Gotta say I disagree . When benji went off injured in the last game , for me we got a good look at what the attack will look like , which is actually better . It doesn’t have the razzmatazz, but does have strong play , and a clear game plan , especially if AD is at 6.
I also think the jack in the box play of grant , can be replaced , and liddles pass and deception around the ruck is way better than grants .
I thought grant dropped off , towards the end of the year , and whilst I think he will be a star , I don’t think his actual play at the back end was even as good as his start to the year .

Just as an aside , has anyone noticed how poorly a lot of clubs have recruited . It’s the Titans at number 1 for me , and then honestly us at number 2 , followed by the dogs and warriors , then it’s crickets to anyone else . It’s surprised me how little some clubs did to improve , especially the ones at the bottom.
I think the sharks , dragons , cowboys , are in for long years . They have definitely gone backwards . Also sneaky gone backwards … the panthers ! They’ve lost Tetevano and Tamou . Both big metre eaters for them , and they’re hoping Eiso picks up the slack apparently . I know they have stars , but that’s some holes to fill.

The dude who set the first try , is the guy I see . I don’t even remember, the last time I saw brooks kick it out on the full .

He put us away on the left a couple of times , only for the last past to go astray , or something diabolical to happen . He had a one on one strip , a forced knock on from a kick and 2 more almosts.
Where he let us down , was allowing these bozos in the team like garner to shift us away from the game plan , especially when it was obvious we were not getting squat from the ref .

But brooks wasn’t the reason we lost . We lost because of bad passes , drop ball , miracle plays , and generally mentally removing ourselves from the grind , especially in that 40-50 minute period . They scored their first try via a ricochet, and another a dropped ball from an opportunity for us to score at the other end .
Luke wasn’t the one who left his fullback to tackle a 120kg front rower 1 on 1 at the line , nor was he the one who was run over , and allowed their lock to go through.

But his kick out on the full , after going down 12 -6 was beyond dismal , and should not have happened . His 2 mis kicks in the first half , weren’t good enough either . But of the people that played today , he’s nowhere near one of the guys I’m most looking at for that result.

Katoni Staggs is a better footballer than Stephen Chrichton . He should be the one we are after IMO.

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@wt2k said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Esan Marsters released by cowboys & sings with titans

looks like they’re keen to leak more points

Esan played quite well at WTs especially under Cleary.

This is the funniest post I have read this year. Esan makes James Roberts 2021 look like a gun. You really got a thing for Ivan don’t you.

Joey Leilua, the self annointed best centre in the world, sound familiar.

As bad as BJ is (although he was great on the weekend) he’d run circles around Marsters. I pray that marsters is selected this week.

We played really well that second half . The dragons need a lot of pats on the back for Thier defence . We threw a lot at them . If we can play like that , and that’s a big if , the Titans won’t offer the same quality defence that the dragons did .

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@kazoo-kid said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

A centre who can put away their winger is a lost art in the NRL. Only a few around who can still do it. Jarrod Croker and Joseph Manu are the only two I can think of who are great at it. Michael Jennings and Latrell Mitchell were very good at it when they played centre. Joey Leilua can do it too when he decides to show up.

Gildart looks like he has that in spades. Defence is the only question.

Absulutely. Mick Cronin was one of the better centres in providing good ball to his winger. Ryan Girdler also was good at it, Paul McGregor as well.

Matt Gidley as well .

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@gnr4life said in Luke Brooks:

Brooks leaving and going to another level club and going to another level would prove once and for all that the problem is the club and not the player. And don’t think it couldn’t happen.

Unless he has a stellar 2nd half of the season, it absolutely will happen. Doesn’t mean it’s the club though. Just means that Brooks is not what we need right now.

Hopefully with Doueihi taking the lead it will free up Brooks to play to his advantage. It may be enough then again may not. I would guess he has until the end of the season to play his part, otherwise he’ll be shopped around which would be for the benefit of both parties.

If he does go , I hope madden not Hastings is the halves choice . He’s a tough little bugger with a big voice and some mongrel .

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@lauren said in Luke Brooks:

I’m a person that has often noted the poor performance culture at the club as justification for Luke’s poor development. While I haven’t specifically blamed Benji or Robbie as the main cause for disruption, I do however believe that the club’s previous organisational incompetence, quality of the team and frequent instability are major factors.
I can recognise that he’s got some deficiencies  and poor leadership qualities including a lack of valour. Yet I believe he can turn things around given he can work on the mental, physical, tactical and technical elements of his game.

We all obviously don’t see eye to eye on that and it’s understandable but no offence my(or anyone else) applying this reasoning isn’t to make excuses. In fact, they both mean completely different things.
When the Brooks supporters on here, myself included, stand by these reasons to why he’s unable to produce certain traits/plays (being vocal, his kicks and try assists the most common) it isn’t to be combative at all but we’re simply applying some logic to why he’s undeveloped in these areas.
In all team sports, an individual’s growth is dependent on the coaching and team around him too. So at present not only would he be working on building on his own skills and other new ones, but he’d also be learning how to modify his game to serve or suit the needs of another newly formed team.

I’d say the only concern is his confidence and if he can take accountability of it he’d be in more control of everything.

Seriously Luke Brookes has played over 150 NRL games and you assert he “LACKS VALOUR” my understanding of word valour means courage. With respect Lauren if you believe anyone who has played 150 games of NRL lacks courage you havE no idea what it takes to play at this level.

I would never ever associate that word with the physical aspect of rugby league.
If you can understand that the outline of my post is relating the culture of the club and it’s impact on Luke’s development (especially the ongoing psychological challenges he’s faced), and read that particular passage, you’d see this word has only been used only in regards to his leadership skills and ability.
I specifically meant, the courage to do whatever it takes to be the best and expect the same from those around him. To be relentless in pursuit of this and always strive to deliver the best results.
The only reason I even said it in the first place, is because it’s obvious he has some confidence issues and his self-belief has sometimes appeared (that’s obviously only my opinion though) to be shot and I’d like to see him overcome it.

I am honestly one of the last persons you’d hear say something to that degree about Luke. I actually literally tried to report a comment(just the other day) on the forum which suggested one of our other players smash or hurt him.

Yep , it’s clearly in his head . I don’t think anyone will disagree there . He runs when he should pass he passes when he should run , he thinks way too much . I don’t think it’s because he can’t control the team , or is overwhelmed by the responsibility, but that he lacks confidence in his own abilities . So he’s kind of like the coach in the water boy , who had his book stolen . He’s still a great coach , he just thinks way too much and can’t get out of his own way . The person who can get him to free his mind , will unlock the star he can be . Most have given up on the kid. I still have hope , even though I understand I’m probably on a sinking ship.

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Hope that Strongee’s little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the “my opinion - your opinion and the truth” thing.

My opinion = Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

Your Opinion = Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

The Truth = Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?

Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .

You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .

How did WT mess him up? Curious to hear the evidence behind this one…

So you disagree ? You think we developed him to the best of his potential , and the constant in and out of coaching philosophies, game plans , lack of good structures around him. Even simply putting a halves coach with him .

So you think the onus is on the player that there’s none on the club ?. I’ve got rose coloured glasses for this club , but that’s just not true . We hopefully have got the right guys in there now , but we have been a mess of a club especially around the time we went away from benji and said this kid was our future . We blooded him way too soon .

Of course the onus is on the player, why wouldn’t it be??? If the club is to be believed, they have better resources in place now regarding player management, training techniques, sports science than they ever have. So if Brooks is able to take advantage of these resources, then why is he regressing in his on-field performance?

The only thing I can say for certain is that his defence has improved consistently. His kicking game has not, his running game has not. His organisational game…yeah I don’t think so based on how rudderless the Tigers look at times out on the field.

I don’t think you’re going to change your view on Brooks, and I’m not here to argue otherwise, but I fail to see any real leadership qualities with him and given his tenure in the game now, well that’s somewhat of a problem IMO.

I’m not saying it’s not . I added to my above comment by the way . To clarify what I’m saying . And of course the onus is on the player . But it’s not just on him , but I’d doubt you’d find someone in these elite systems , that thinks it’s just in the player They’d do everything in thier power to maximise the potential of thier kids .
I’m not making excuses for him , he never developed into the player we all thought he would . But I blame the club as much as the player . And as I said , if you put him in the elite systems would he have had the same career as here ? It’s an unanswerable question, but seeing as players with far less ability than he has , where they end up after coming through there , it’s a fair argument to be made that he would have been close to the expectations . So that means we stuffed up . And I’m not going to stick my head in the sand about it .

@willow said in Luke Brooks:

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@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

@strongee said in Luke Brooks:

@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

Hope that Strongee’s little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the “my opinion - your opinion and the truth” thing.

My opinion = Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

Your Opinion = Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

The Truth = Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?

Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .

You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .

How did WT mess him up? Curious to hear the evidence behind this one…

So you disagree ? You think we developed him to the best of his potential , and the constant in and out of coaching philosophies, game plans , lack of good structures around him. Even simply putting a halves coach with him .

So you think the onus is on the player that there’s none on the club ?. I’ve got rose coloured glasses for this club , but that’s just not true . We hopefully have got the right guys in there now , but we have been a mess of a club especially around the time we went away from benji and said this kid was our future . We blooded him way too soon . Was that a good enough response for you ? Or do I need to spend days scouring articles from players who left , he bad culture around those times , the garbage around the boys club , the 180 away from the plan Tim sheens had in Place to the potter / Taylor ball. He never found his voice , and is way too in his own head , so that’s on him . But if we had 100 go’s at making him johns 2.0 , how many would we succeed at ? 10 ? 4 ? Now stick him in say the storm system . And they had 100 goes at it , how many would they stuff up ?
I love this club , but I’m not oblivious to the years of Mismanagement, especially in the development of our juniors . Brooks being the poster child of that .

@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

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@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

@strongee said in Luke Brooks:

@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

Hope that Strongee’s little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the “my opinion - your opinion and the truth” thing.

My opinion = Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

Your Opinion = Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

The Truth = Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?

Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .

You have misread my posts. I cleary state he is an NRL player.

Sorry if you are looking for me to bite on your comments mate but im all good. If you want to get yourself banned you will have to go harder. Youll also have to find someone else to go back at you. It wont be me.

As ive stated youre entitled to your opinion.

Moving on.

Cheers.

No you paraphrased everything I said , only into nothing at all like what I said . And now what you want to pretend like you’re taking the high road . Sorry all the stuff you e said over the past few months totally undermine you .
I hope Brooks moves on for the record , it will suck to see someone who should have been the Aus halfback , be a shell of what he could have been, leave , but we messed him up to a point the club should be ashamed of themselves . He was supposed to be the sure fire , can’t lose prospect and now , he’s anything but that . It’s a real indictment on this club . And that’s why I stand by him , mainly because I know how much we messed him up , and it’s shameful . Its like what the Houston Texans did to David Carr years ago . He was again this can’t miss quarterback , who got hammered his first 5 years in the league , that by the time they fixed the rest of thier team , he had been ruined by bad coaching and blokes who couldn’t protect him .

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@strongee said in Luke Brooks:

@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

Hope that Strongee’s little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the “my opinion - your opinion and the truth” thing.

My opinion = Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

Your Opinion = Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

The Truth = Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?

Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .

Haha elite halfback. Every other club would snap him up… pls take him. 7 years with brooks at half back and no finals I think its over. I will welcome jackson hastings next yr as our 7. The writing is on the wall.

I literally just said he’s not elite . Have another read buddy

@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

@strongee said in Luke Brooks:

@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

Hope that Strongee’s little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the “my opinion - your opinion and the truth” thing.

My opinion = Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

Your Opinion = Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

The Truth = Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?

Ill give you something that is very true about me. Im a bit blunt when im know im right about a player.

No hard feelings, youre entitled to your opinion.

What ? What has that got to do with what my opinion is ? I swear I’ve said it 100 times on here , yet you still paraphrase and summarise it to something completely unlike what I’ve said . I couldn’t be any clearer .
And what are you right about ? That he’s not nrl standard ? The rest of the nrl clubs would disagree with you . Every club would snap him up , who didn’t have an elite half . That’s all the answer I need to that question . So all your ramblings , amount for nothing if the people who do this for a living disagree with you to the tune they’d pay him half a mil to kick a ball around .
So you don’t know anything, how can you if that’s the general consensus in the NRL. And it is because the cowboys just came knocking and were willing to pay full freight .
Like I said , I think he’s slightly above league average , which is a shame because he could have been elite . But thank the basket case of Wests tigers past for that .

@the_patriot said in Luke Brooks:

Hope that Strongee’s little blow up isnt considered bad form by the mods. I hope he sticks around. Im all for differing opinions and a bit of banter.

As for the Luke Brooks discussion ill have a go at the “my opinion - your opinion and the truth” thing.

My opinion = Luke Brooks is cooked at the Wests Tigers. Doesnt have the mental drive and toughness to turn around his complete lack of confidence. And even if he did he was only a mid range half back to start with.

Your Opinion = Luke Brooks has been hard done by and has genuine excuses for his form. he will come good. In the grand scheme of things he is one of the top 6 to 8 halves on the game and deserves his spot in our team going forward.

The Truth = Luke Brooks is an NRL half back. He is not a reserve grader. The trouble however is that he is struggling to lift his form and adjust to a style that doesnt completely suit him. He played well last week and did his job. Some of his kicking was very good, the placement spot on.

With great halves like Thurston, Johns, young Sam Walker etc they were genuine footballers. Not athlete footballers but genuine footballers who could read a line and play heads up footy.

Alexander and Johns commented recently on a sports radio show how Luke Brooks runs into the defensive line a little too often. Kind of like he doesnt know when to pass or when to run, as in he is not reading the play in front of him but just relying on natural talent to create something.

It was a one of the best reviews of the Luke Brooks situation i have heard. It reminded me of the Milford situation at the Broncos. Talented player but doesnt make the right play at the right time often enough to take away the enormous pressure he has placed on himself.

I see Brooks and Milford as very similar. Both naturally talented but neither are just out and out footballers who can read the play and execute what is needed when it is needed.

In short good player but not a player capable of lifting his team to any great heights.

None of that is true haha . And that’s not my opinion . But thanks for clarifying a position you clearly don’t understand , just to rationalise it for yourself . Seriously man , what the actual ?