We’ve already proven that changing coaches isn’t the answer

And yes Madge may have been responsible for the signing and re signing of most of our current squad but he has to sign someone to make up the numbers doesn’t he

We have to have a certain amount of players at certain times during the year

He obviously can’t get stars to come to the club that’s why he is stuck signing players he obviously doesn’t want

That’s why we have no choice but to allow him the time to bring through these youngsters and other established quality players as we slowly start to gain cap space after the end of contracts like Mbye and JR and McQueen and so on

Of course the results are the same as previous coaches with this squad

It’s why the Bellamy Bennett Robinson’s of this world won’t touch this club because the job to fix it is too Damn hard

At least Madge is highly motivated to give it a shot so let’s Damn support the coach for once hey instead of riding him into the ground

@bradexl said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Mitchell Pearce on NBN news just now endorsing the club to lure Luke Brooks to the knights asap.

What a joke

The NRL is a disgrace

If that was the tigers trying to lure a contracted player we would be burned on the stake

The knights have had employees left right and center endorse Brooks to their club even though he has 2 years left with us

@rustycage said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Strongee said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@2005magic I like all your suggestions .Tetevano and Hiroti I don’t think will cost that much . And brown if he has a big year could see himself in a blue jersey .

Ummm, no. Coming to the Tigers destroys your chances of rep honours apparently. Just ask Gal.

And Gal playing for the blues absolutely ruined the blues chances of winning a SOO series

Just ask anybody

@finnzo said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

We have Simpkins aswell but and he is ment to be the next big thing we are sorted in the hooking role for years to come

If they stay that is

True to wests tigers form it will play out like this

Liddle will get sick of waiting on Grant to decide his future who is sick of waiting for Cam to sort his future

So Liddle will sign with dog’s

Cam will than retire or head to Queensland

Grant will than end up at storm

Than simpkin who has been forgotten through all this commotion will get homesick and head back to Queensland

We will than sign old favorite Pita Godinet to a 4 year deal

@lauren said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@bathursttiger1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@winky said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@balmain-boy said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@sly said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Was told by a flegg staff member earlier in the year that Dillon is pound for pound the strongest in the club, he told me he weighs mid 80’s and can bench 160kg and squat close to 200kg. He told me cardio wise he’s in top 3 in whole club. He told me its a massive effort as he has never had an nrl pre season just the odd session here and there, the guy who told me would know, he had something to do with Dillon in sg ball at the dogs before coming here.

Sounds like someone pumping him up. He’s highly talented but has still been swatted away in defence in numerous occasions.

I’ve seen Dillon play he’s the fleggs best attacking player looks dangerous every time he’s got the ball yes he does miss tackles but most fullbacks in the nrl are sus in defence massive fan of daine Laurie probably our best player he miss tackles all the time

Daine has to try and tackle ten times the amount of players than any other fullback in the competition due to the amount that are missed by the rest of the team, so he is going to miss more tackles than most fullbacks.

Yeah it’s probably the reason why he was leading the NRL for most try saving tackles, before his injury.
He’s been pretty solid for a rookie. Believe he also had the most kick defusals at one point too - with a 92% success rate.

He is amazing under the high ball for such a young short fullback

Hope we keep him.long term

Even if we get Joe I still think we should play hardball with JA and Manly

Like Joe will be here regardless of what we do with JA so still make manly offer something really meaningful or if they don’t just stick JA with the CC squad and use him when needed

Make the germ waste a whole season unless we get something or we can comfortably fill our squad and use all our cap money on players that Madge really wants

@The_Patriot said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@2041 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@OzLuke said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@innsaneink said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@madunit said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Capewell has all but aligned himself with the Knights. As someone already said in here, he’s knocked the Tigers back more than once. The club isn’t chasing him. The last I heard, is that Wests Tigers are waiting to see who Matterson aligns himself with and then they plan to negotioate a player swap deal with that team.

If true that is amateur recruiting, waiting on someone else to make a decision

we should be shopping him not waiting for teams to come to us…get on the front foot and make teams think about it rather than have them offer us their scraps

How would that work?

Tigers: Hello, is this Ian Warriors, head of recruitment at the New Zealand Warriors?
Warriors: Yes it is. What can I do for you?
Tigers: Would you like to take one back row forward, slightly used, good engine off our hands? He’s going to need about $600,000 a year.
Warriors: Why that sounds like a bargain! Sign us up.
Tigers: Great. Oh, one thing: we’re going to need Cuzzy Promusung-Youngster in return.
Warriors: Hmm, less good but still ok.
Tigers: Great, hold the line please.

…

Tigers: Hey Ryan, we’ve got a new home for you. How much would you like to live in Auckland?
Matterson: Not at all. My manager is working on this and he will be in touch. Goodbye.

Exactly.

it needs to play out the way it is. the club is doing the right thing.

end of the day we dont have to release the bum, we can introduce him to State cup and leave him there.
The club know they have no chance to force him to play somewhere he doesnt want to

Let clubs offer what they want for him

If we are not happy with it than refuse the release

Tell Matterson he has e choices

1. Aim up at training and play your best and hopefully get rewarded with SOO jersey

2. Tank it like sook moses and play CC and watch your career go down the gurgler

3. Spit the dummy and sit out the next 2 seasons payment free

Make your choice but these are your options so suck it up sook

@dazza65 said in Matterson unhappy at Tigers?:

I know this may be unpopular but I would be handling this very differently.
In my opinion, one of the issues we have is that it is generally felt that we are pushovers or at the very least weak in comparison to the glamour or elite teams - and to a degree we probably are; we are victim of past sins in some ways.

If I were Pascoe of Madge I would have made this a very real “line in the sand” situation for all to see - players, managers, NRL, whoever.

We signed RM in good standing and he (or manger, doesn’t matter) have tried to screw us over and “bully” us into letting him go - for no real reason.

I can’t see any available player out there offering WT an upgrade on RM anyway, so I would not be letting him leave. For the money he is on, he can stay and if his form or attitude is not up to scratch, he can see out his remaining contract in reserves. See what that does for his value on his next contract !

It has probably gone beyond this now to be a workable outcome but it is what I would have done from the beginning - as I said “line in the sand” stuff, WT will no longer be held hostage by player managers, players or anyone.

I know some of you will say its hypocritical to take this stand when we are also trying to move on Mats/Packer/Josh etc etc but from what I understand this is by mutual agreement and we have said we will be honouring any of these players deals if they can’t/won’t be taken up by others.

As I mentioned in another thread, if a player has the right to ask for an upgrade after one year of a three year deal because he performed above expectations - we should also be able to reduce a players contract for poor performance - be careful what you wish for…

Totally agree

Stuff him

If he doesn’t aim up next 2 years it’s career down the drain

Would love to see the tigers make a big stand on this

@GNR4LIFE said in Madge vs JT vs Potter vs Cleary:

@JoshColeman99 said in Madge vs JT vs Potter vs Cleary:

Not sure how many times I’ve said that but you can’t expect instant results. Our cap is screwed, no finals in 9 years, our roster is big average and no big name players want to be here.

What Madge is going takes time and unfortunately as a consequence we will struggle on the field for a while longer. It’s a lot better than Cleary who screwed up our entire salary cap and we could barely score a point under him.

Gotta wait until the rebuild is complete to judge the coach fully

What do you mean by instant? 9 years since finals? almost
2 full seasons of Maguire in charge? Some get jack of being told to be patient. I remember I was told to be patient in 2014. I even remember the night. We’d been rolled by Manly at Brookie. Things were going to be great in a year or two. They weren’t. So what reason do I have to believe it now? Cos Madge hasn’t had a hand in signing 6 or 7 players to round out his squad? That’s going to finally make those calls for patience a reality. Really?

I’m afraid being patient is our only option

I hate it just like you do

But changing coaches will just keep us in an endless cycle of pain

@TIGER said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@mike said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@TIGER said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

So now we’re saying the door is still open???

If we’ve pulled the offer the door should be closed, otherwise what does it actually mean to pull the offer?

This is just ridiculous now.

We’ve either closed the door or we haven’t, if we haven’t, then the offer hasn’t been pulled.

Seems like he’s called our bluff

Nothing is as black and white as you make out. It’s always shades of grey. The dichotomy is false. Personally I am happy the door is still open. Doesn’t mean he will come but it is good business sense.

So now he knows the offer hasn’t been withdrawn and we’re still waiting for him, so nothing has changed right?

What’s so hard to understand?

If he accepts our offer before the money is spent he gets the contract

If the money is spent before he accepts the offer he misses out

Does it need anymore explaining than that

@tigerman-0 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Can’t stand the bloke. Has the 2nd most punchable head in footy after Moylan

What about Moses?

@magpie_magic said in Our Club History vs the roarters:

@tigerbalm said in Our Club History vs the roarters:

@crazycat said in Our Club History vs the roarters:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/in-demand-smith-blown-away-by-roosters/100658112

Why is Brandon Smith blown away by the history of Easts?

Yes, the club has a history and its fans. Souths have ‘the book of Feuids’ or whatever detailing their skirmishes.

We have the Proud history of the Magpies, underdogs and poor working class guys who have fought all the way every day. Tommy, our Lidcombe sausage sizzle, us fighting tooth and nail. Likewise Balmain, Elias, Blocker Roach and much much more history.

Why is the flight deck impressing people. Or more to the point why are people not looking at us and seeing a Combined Rugby history to rival both Easts and Souths???

Somehow Easts can brag about their culture while flicking mitchell pearce like a used towel. Yet we dont get treated the same?

I think were trying to build culture right. I was glad to hear Nathan Cayless talk about Granville as his stomping grounds. He gets it. Do we as a Club get it?

I take your point but in one of the articles I read it finished with the cheese being super impressed at the club (Roosters) looking after players once their footy is finished. Jobs for the boys for life. Add to that a real possibility of multiple premierships and its not really a hard choice imo.

I can see the cheese fitting in quite well in the eastern suburbs party life.

It’s all about history.

The history of white powder

And it’s free

@tilllindemann said in BACKS:

@tiger05premier said in BACKS:

@demps said in BACKS:

Desperately need Maumalo and Nofo on their game in 2022 to make a run.

Can trust Kenny but have my doubts with Nofo.
Hopefully he gets it together and has a good season.

AJ and Oli G for centre.

Had my doubts on Gildart but by all reports he’s impressing in pre season and is deceivingly strong despite his slight build.

1 Laurie
2 Nofo
3 Oli G
4 AJ
5 Maumalo

Good to hear about Oli

I have high hopes for Oli G, I think he will be a revelation.

Love your confidence

@demps said in BACKS:

Desperately need Maumalo and Nofo on their game in 2022 to make a run.

Can trust Kenny but have my doubts with Nofo.
Hopefully he gets it together and has a good season.

AJ and Oli G for centre.

Had my doubts on Gildart but by all reports he’s impressing in pre season and is deceivingly strong despite his slight build.

1 Laurie
2 Nofo
3 Oli G
4 AJ
5 Maumalo

Good to hear about Oli

@jadtiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@chris said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Luch wanted Origin level pay when he wasn’t an Origin level player. He stood out in a pack of forwards that had some players who were average at best. Put Luch in a Storm or Panthers forward pack and his deficiencies suddenly become pretty evident. For the money he wanted, we could buy a much better player than what Luch will ever be.

For years people on here have been crying about paying overs for average players and this time, the club didn’t pay overs for an average, yet some people are still crying on here.

Absolutely correct,Lucy can’t tackle and will be a costly liability at the cowboys earning almost twice as much as he should be

And if they use him correctly he will be a very expensive bench player compared to the potential cost of their two young gun 2nd rowers who will probably only cost half of LL contract but will be doing all the hard yards

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@gnr4life said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@batboy said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs
What’s good !?

Sorry mate, don’t have an update but I’d say our chances are improving after LL signing. I don’t think we’ll know anything until the borders open. I heard the Cowboys are shopping Jordan McLean around. If they can’t offload him they won’t be able to offer Luki or Nanai anything decent. I’d double down and go for the both of them.

Great idea.
Realistic too.

McLean - no thanks.

Thanks for posting.

Better off shopping in Doubles - Especially if we’re asking young blokes to re-locate.
Much more chance of it happening if a best mate is coming with them.

I’ve also had this opinion when shopping O/S, Cherry picking is harder than pack hunting.

Is what we did with Simpkin / Hoffman.

They’re probably mates with Tuki too.

A good judge told me the other day Christian Ma’anaima might be one of our best signings. We won’t be chasing front rowers with Stef, Twal, Musgrove, Seyfarth and Ma’anaima Joffa and Tuki. Reckons Ma’anaima is as good as Stef!

Big wraps.
I’ll keep em an eye on him.

@Terry-T-Nuts , ya did well !!

Get ready for a 6 foot 5 110 kg centre.

You saying Christian will play centre ?

Stefano

Is that a Sheens joke or…

My guess Demps is that it is a Sheens joke

@littlebittipsy said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@batboy said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs
What’s good !?

Sorry mate, don’t have an update but I’d say our chances are improving after LL signing. I don’t think we’ll know anything until the borders open. I heard the Cowboys are shopping Jordan McLean around. If they can’t offload him they won’t be able to offer Luki or Nanai anything decent. I’d double down and go for the both of them.

Great idea.
Realistic too.

McLean - no thanks.

Thanks for posting.

Better off shopping in Doubles - Especially if we’re asking young blokes to re-locate.
Much more chance of it happening if a best mate is coming with them.

I’ve also had this opinion when shopping O/S, Cherry picking is harder than pack hunting.

Is what we did with Simpkin / Hoffman.

They’re probably mates with Tuki too.

A good judge told me the other day Christian Ma’anaima might be one of our best signings. We won’t be chasing front rowers with Stef, Twal, Musgrove, Seyfarth and Ma’anaima Joffa and Tuki. Reckons Ma’anaima is as good as Stef!

Big wraps.
I’ll keep em an eye on him.

@Terry-T-Nuts , ya did well !!

Get ready for a 6 foot 5 110 kg centre.

Could you please explain?

I think he is saying with Sheens back we will have our new big front rower playing in the centres

@chicken_faced_killa said in Player Dramas in the NRL Off-Season (Silly Season):

@kingrobbie said in Player Dramas in the NRL Off-Season (Silly Season):

@tigerlily said in Player Dramas in the NRL Off-Season (Silly Season):

Another one out against us in Round 1…

A win by forfeit is still a win. The good old junior days when the opposition didn’t have enough players

They would have to forfeit though

They’d probably still like their chances against us with half a team

In fact they’d probably still start favorites with the bookies

@merlot said in Another Quick Forum Update:

@demps said in Another Quick Forum Update:

@merlot said in Another Quick Forum Update:

@gnr4life said in Another Quick Forum Update:

@loklok said in Another Quick Forum Update:

@gnr4life said in Another Quick Forum Update:

@loklok said in Another Quick Forum Update:

If we dont like someones post dont reply but down the track they might post something great so upvote it !!

So basically you don’t want disagreements?

Forumers have opinions wether we like it or not .just upvote what u like . What is the point of a disagreement of opinion when the coaches and management will make the final decisions

What’s the point of being here then if you can’t present counter view points.

let it rest,pls

The new mod !!

my true response will get me band.lol

Say it anyway I need a laugh

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@gnr4life said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@demps said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerballs
What’s good !?

Sorry mate, don’t have an update but I’d say our chances are improving after LL signing. I don’t think we’ll know anything until the borders open. I heard the Cowboys are shopping Jordan McLean around. If they can’t offload him they won’t be able to offer Luki or Nanai anything decent. I’d double down and go for the both of them.

Are they both off contract at the end of ‘22?

Luki has no contract, don’t worry about what Zero Tackle says. we offered him a deal for 2021.

Obviously he is still in NQ but how has he reacted to our interest in him?