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Personally unless there going to follow through with statements like mowing the lawns they really should say nothing.

The right deal has been made start of training next week you don’t have a negative player mixing with the group.

Good luck JA have no issue a player chasing the $ based upon a short career but the way you went about it via social media to get your own way and not respecting the coaching staff for developing your game and the supporters, i hope your bog average at Manly coming into there systems.

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@tiger_one said in Wests Tigers Centre of Excellence:

Nofa lookin’ good!

Good to see Nofo doing the PR exercise on behalf of the players and will speak glowingly about the project to team mates.

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@Tbone said in Joe Ofahengaue Next ??:

@Tigerbuck63 said in Joe Ofahengaue Next ??:

@bptiger said in Joe Ofahengaue Next ??:

Been a ex agrade coach , when putting a team together my 1st thought always was I need a forward pack that will hold there own at the very least . After that a need a 1/2 back who can lead the team around the park and implement my game plan . Followed by a good fullback who can talk and organise the defence line , other than that sometimes u have to make do with what u have , so let’s face it we don’t have the 1st thing on my list , a dominant pack , so until Madge can get a mongrel pack we ain’t going anywhere .

The pack is looking better than last season at least.
Musgrove was good if he stays on the park.
Blore should be better after a preseason.
Tamou - Welcome addition
Leilua L - Our best player should improve
Stefano - Needs game time but out to prove himself

MIKAELE - Playing for a contract in 2021
Garner - Needs to improve D, Attack solid.
TWAL - Not great should improve
Liddle - Full Pre-season for a change.
Simpkin - Should get some game time

So overall i think our pack is better than last year and i am not including ALOIAI as won’t be around.

There’s some talent there. What concerns me is the lack of experience and NRL weathering.

For example:
Simpkins: Yet to play NRL
Blore: 125 mins of NRL experience
Stefano: 24 mins of NRL experience
Liddle: Played 180 mins all year. Missed a lot of matches over the years
Musgrove: Played 180 mins all year. His last game before that was 2017

Good point but also maybe based upon limited game time i assume most will be ripping in this off season to earn a spot which might mean all the forwards raise there level?

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Draw overall favorable considering where team finished last season and one big factor is no 5 day turn around games.

The 1st 4 rounds will know where the team are at win at least 2 of these games and sets us up for a competitive crack at the Top 8. Also best to play these teams earlier as some teams will still be working on combinations.

Our roster overall is still light and may still struggle to make the 8 this season however.

Interesting fact early on we seem to have a number of games on 9 on the Sunday afternoon, does this mean the viewers deem us a team worth watching in relation to ratings???

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@Spartan117 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

JAC Seen at Belmore yesterday.

Well lets hope we don’t waste time on him again.

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@bptiger said in Joe Ofahengaue Next ??:

Been a ex agrade coach , when putting a team together my 1st thought always was I need a forward pack that will hold there own at the very least . After that a need a 1/2 back who can lead the team around the park and implement my game plan . Followed by a good fullback who can talk and organise the defence line , other than that sometimes u have to make do with what u have , so let’s face it we don’t have the 1st thing on my list , a dominant pack , so until Madge can get a mongrel pack we ain’t going anywhere .

The pack is looking better than last season at least.
Musgrove was good if he stays on the park.
Blore should be better after a preseason.
Tamou - Welcome addition
Leilua L - Our best player should improve
Stefano - Needs game time but out to prove himself

MIKAELE - Playing for a contract in 2021
Garner - Needs to improve D, Attack solid.
TWAL - Not great should improve
Liddle - Full Pre-season for a change.
Simpkin - Should get some game time

So overall i think our pack is better than last year and i am not including ALOIAI as won’t be around.

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Well 2 years is a good extension still needs more game time, stay away from social media but a good extension, this is what the WT should be about extending younger player contracts that we know will improve with more game time.

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@supercoach said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tigerbuck63 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Kazoo-Kid said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@sleeve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Can someone tell me the average years a player has in first grade? I know they all want to win a premiership,but why wait on the bench behind other players when you can get more $ elswhere?If you can get an extra $100,000 at another club ,go for it.YOU may only have a few years at the top,make hay while the sun shines.Forget loyalty it won,t pay your biils.League is a business ,clubs will drop you if you do not perform.

A few years ago I remember the average NRL career was around 30 games. Not sure what it is now.

This posting goes back to 2016 from the ABC.

Since 1959 :-

*36% of players have played fewer than 10 first-grade games.

*56.8 % played less than 30 top-grade games.

*82.2% per cent played less than 100.

*The average career is 49 first-grade games and 4.2 years.

Out of every single player who has spent most of their youth pursuing a dream, those that actually go on to making a proper living out of the game is minimal.

Please also consider these stats :-

  • Players out of the game after a year (depending on injuries, suspensions etc): 65%

  • Out of the game after two years: 75%

  • Out of the game after five years: 88%

The reality is that Kids who aspire to become first grade footballers more often than not, do not realize that failure is a high possibility. The assumption that players go on to have long careers and make heaps of money is entirely false!

Out of the 20-25 or so kids that come through each year, aspiring to be first grade players, usually two or three of the 20 players might go on to play first grade. Of those that play first grade, only 20 per cent have a career longer than four years. Of those, probably half make a good living out of the game.

Many years ago on the ABC they were talking to Bennett, Sheens and Warren Ryan and talking about the above and all three said the returns on outstanding juniors was like winning lotto. They said sometimes your forced down that road, but if you want instant success you have to buy players who are proven and played over 100 games

Yes it’s a real balancing act for Clubs, Coaches and Players.
So i don’t begrudge any player seeking an upgrade on there contract but you also have too see how much the club has also invested in you for another club to pay more.

Maybe they should change it so that half the upgrade amount goes back to the club that way the managers also get less as well, if the player wants to break a contract early.

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@Kazoo-Kid said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@sleeve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Can someone tell me the average years a player has in first grade? I know they all want to win a premiership,but why wait on the bench behind other players when you can get more $ elswhere?If you can get an extra $100,000 at another club ,go for it.YOU may only have a few years at the top,make hay while the sun shines.Forget loyalty it won,t pay your biils.League is a business ,clubs will drop you if you do not perform.

A few years ago I remember the average NRL career was around 30 games. Not sure what it is now.

This posting goes back to 2016 from the ABC.

Since 1959 :-

*36% of players have played fewer than 10 first-grade games.

*56.8 % played less than 30 top-grade games.

*82.2% per cent played less than 100.

*The average career is 49 first-grade games and 4.2 years.

Out of every single player who has spent most of their youth pursuing a dream, those that actually go on to making a proper living out of the game is minimal.

Please also consider these stats :-

  • Players out of the game after a year (depending on injuries, suspensions etc): 65%

  • Out of the game after two years: 75%

  • Out of the game after five years: 88%

The reality is that Kids who aspire to become first grade footballers more often than not, do not realize that failure is a high possibility. The assumption that players go on to have long careers and make heaps of money is entirely false!

Out of the 20-25 or so kids that come through each year, aspiring to be first grade players, usually two or three of the 20 players might go on to play first grade. Of those that play first grade, only 20 per cent have a career longer than four years. Of those, probably half make a good living out of the game.

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@GNR4LIFE said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@sleeve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Madge going to Storm would be a no win situation for him.He strikes me as a very proud and smart man and likes to climb his own mountain, not get in at the top .At the storm he can only go down.

You’re speaking with your heart here, not your head. You WANT to believe he’s that kind of person. In reality you have no idea. Don’t make the same mistake everyone made with Cleary. He walked on water when he coached us. When he gave up a kidney for his brother, everyone wanted him sainted. This is a business, these guys will ultimately do what’s best for them. There’s nothing at all to suggest Madge’s character is any greater than previous coaches who stabbed us in the back. The lesson I guess, is keep these guys at arms length emotionally.

That’s very true we need to see the paperwork Signed and i am unsure why it just can’t be signed prior to Pre-season training starting next week.

If i was to chase any coach it would be John Morris (Sharks) as has not been offered a contract extension and has done a good job with the sharks making the 8 these past few season with also some under performing players and is not adverse to telling players what he thinks in a non media manner.
Ex WT player as well and knows the club structure.