Yes Madge made many of the signings.
But if the salary cap hadn’t already been nuked by Cleary before he got here, he would have been able to make different signings.
Can you not see that the mere presence of Packer’s, Reynolds’ and Mbye’s contracts has determined the kind of additional signings that can be made?
@teddy23 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
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@philgood said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
Trent Barrett has made enquiries about getting Paul Momorovski to Bulldogs for 2021. I have no idea if Tigers are entertaining the idea but Barrett definitely wants him for next year. My source is high up in Bulldogs.
We’ve got a heap of centre and more coming through juniors. We’d be fine if we let him go.
I reckon Momo is a more reliable centre than BJ and JTJ and is far less likely to cost us games than either of the others
Momo not in the same class as either of them
Do not underestimate the Momo. He is the quiet achiever. Not flashy, but a bloody good footballer. There’s a reason Melbourne wanted him for Harry Grant, and there’s a reason the Dogs want him.
I will back a recruitment approach that targets young projects like Laurie, Tuki, Simpkin, and Stefano, over a recruitment approach that targets ‘established players’ like Packer and Reynolds any day of the week.
Great article on The Roar today. Sorry if the formatting isn’t very good, I just copied and pasted it.
“Mad Madge seeks Tiger revenge”
Dylan Edwards head still rests on his shoulders this week. He may have needed a couple of Panadol Saturday night but he’ll be ok.
He’s an NRL player, competing in one of the most brutal sports in the world, a game played by men who get staples fixed firmly in their melon and then simply play on.
Joey Leilua and Luke Garner both took a swipe at Edwards’ head on Saturday night, after a Panthers hooker had taken a similar swipe at their own man, Luciano Leilua, just prior. We are long past days where the square-up is acceptable conduct on a rugby league field and Joey copped a four-week ban for his ‘moment of madness’.
Most would agree it’s a fair punishment. Garner escaped charge, probably because the point of contact was knee height, and that’s probably fair too.
Wests Tigers supporters know all about fairness, it’s easy to understand something intimately when you are regularly the victim of the opposite. Beaten into submission for nine long unsuccessful seasons, the black and gold army could sense the winds of change blowing across BankWest Stadium on Saturday night. All of a sudden there wasn’t as much dread in the air.
I’m referring to those often-labelled ‘salty’ supporters who return every year to fill Leichhardt Oval on a sunny Sunday afternoon, only to be short changed of September action and left to shake their heads at another campaign comprising mostly misery.
Those weary men, women and their children, some who have distant memories of a golden period late in the 1980s and a magnificent fairytale some 15 years ago. But more of pain.
They’ve got some war stories to tell.
They’ll recall vividly when a bloke from the Roosters came to the joint looking for an opportunity. He played up a storm for a year, upped his value, then promptly left. “To the Eels I go” he said. He’s still firing barbs at the club on the internet too, guaranteeing him a vocal reception when the Tigers play Parramatta later this month.
Like the period they cheered on a future immortal playing masterfully at fullback, supported by the club as he battled injury in his formative years, only to see him seduced by a billionaire with a motor vehicle empire. Premierships and a Dally M followed. Hearing [censored]-a-doodle-do is like a dagger to a Tigers tragic.
Similarly, the nephew of a club legend just upped and left one day, they still don’t know why he decided one day he would rather kick stones than play for Wests. The club hierarchy meekly let him move across town and he currently has his new club riding high on top of the NRL ladder.
And when the joint venture tried to sign a young unproven Eels forward at the start of this very season, the answer from the Eels was a simple no. We don’t need him but you aren’t having him. Head Office at the Tigers didn’t give a whimper, they politely accepted a 12-month waiting period, said player will have to ply his trade from the sideline in 2020.
Among the dark days many others have busted through the back door at Concord and went straight for the jewellery drawer. From Origin front rowers to Kangaroo wingers, more than a few crowd favourites have gone on to feats of glory in opposition colours. It really is a tale of woe.
Surprisingly and probably the most prominent was the club’s famous bus driver, a grey ghost who came, made a million promises, signed some high-priced dodgy recruits and then left with little warning. He’s still haunting the club on a regular basis from his fancy cottage in the mountains. Seems he’s found a personality now too, a wily character supporting a silver mullet, blowing kisses from his rocking chair.
So while a ‘Leilua style’ square-up is not not legal tender on the field of play, you might understand why the fanatical supporters of the Wests Tigers feel they are deeply deserving of their moment of vengeance.
And I suspect they are not totally without hope.
There is a new head coach in town and this one looks set to stay the course, Michael Maguire (Madge) has the team playing with a harder edge.
The side is staying in games for longer and in a month of strong performances, his players have shown that they have each other’s backs. Against Penrith on Saturday they clearly wanted to be in the fight.
So maybe, just maybe Madge has discovered the secret. The blueprint to unlocking the potential within the perennial battlers. If his team continues on this same curve, we might yet witness the day the weary fans are yearning for. The day they can ‘look up at the scoreboard’ with a grin as one of those clubs who pillaged them and disrespected them fall on harder times.
It didn’t happen on Saturday night but with Madge driving the train it’s no longer a pipe dream.
Souths will get the wooden spoon this year. Latrell Mitchell will be a lazy fatty. Wayne’s dementia will get worse. Their forwards will get steamrolled.
This is 100% guaranteed. Which disappoints me greatly as I wanted the Eels to get the wooden spoon.
@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@tigerap said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@boonboon said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@tony-soprano said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
I think Madge is only a good top team coach does well with NZ and would be a good SOO coach. Weaker teams hasn’t proved himself in nrl
Who has - which coach ever is a good cosch for a crap team ??
If Madge was coaching Penrith, they’d still be top of the table!.
I believe you are very much underselling Cleary’s coaching ability. On his son alone, arguably the best RL player, he has done an outstanding job. His young players at the Panthers really do respond well to him.
Nathan was going just as well before Dad got there. The Penrith squad was assembled by Gould and Griffin, Ivan walked into a dream job.
@avocadoontoast said in Wests Tigers Team v Brisbane:
So Blore and Seyfarth dropped whilst the senior players remain. WEAK.
Isn’t Blore injured? I forget. Seyfarth deserves to stay, Mbye the uninterested bludger should have been punted completely.
@newtown said in ‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco:
I regret watching this. It shows Madge in a bad light when he addresses his team in the dressing room and whilst he is watching the match. There are young kids watching this program on TV and Madge lets loose a continuous procession of swearing. His persona becomes worse after the team lose and his swearing intensifies. Not a good look for youngsters who want to reach a level in rugby league without feeling intimidated by the coach.
Is it even scientifically possible to watch this team without swearing?
@bigscreentv said in Sack Madge:
This is the last I will say about this.
Just had the source confirm that Madge has lost the senior players. They wouldn’t verify a specific incident, but pretty sure it’s referring to Tamou -unfortunately things aren’t looking pretty.
I’m not stirring garbage. I wouldn’t say it if I wasn’t 100% sure on my source.
To those senior players. I don’t care if you disagree with Madge. You are not the coach, just do what you are told you overpaid prima donnas. And if you don’t like it go to a different club, or get a real job on an average wage. You have disgraced the memory of Tommy with your attitude yesterday. At least Madge cared!! I am still fuming just as much as yesterday.
@nelson said in Coronavirus Outbreak:
@tilllindemann said in Coronavirus Outbreak:
@tigger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:
@tilllindemann said in Coronavirus Outbreak:
America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.
Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There’s no going back to normal any time soon.
Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the “expert” was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.
Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states’ eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.
Definitely skewed towards the unvaccinated, but it is nowhere near exclusively. I think there is a tendency for a snobby attitude (not by you) to paint new patients as ‘dumb rednecks’ from places like Alabama, but it is not. In liberal, educated, wealthy California, with a majority of the population vaccinated, there was still 9,500 new cases and 46 new deaths in the last 24 hours alone (WAY more than Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana etc by the way) .
My point is that it would be much worse without vaccinations, but even in highly vaccinated populations this virus, especially the newer variants, is still a bugger of a health crisis. There’s a perception that if we get vaccinations to a certain percentage then we can just open the borders up and go back to business as usual. That ain’t happening, if we’re serious.
California has more than 9 times the population of any of those states, so you would expect it to have more cases and deaths.
And approx 9 times the infections and deaths, so proportionately just as affected.
My point is not to try and downplay the success of vaccines, they are a critical step, and I will be getting vaccinated myself as soon as I can. My point is vaccine alone are not a magic bullet, and we shouldn’t pretend that everything will be like 2019 again once more people get shots.
@tigger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:
@tilllindemann said in Coronavirus Outbreak:
America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.
Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There’s no going back to normal any time soon.
Listening to ABC radio this morning there was a discussion about this. Not sure who the “expert” was but he was saying that the vast majority of new hospitalisations were unvaccinated people.
Then the governor of Alabama (Republican) came on to lament that only 34% of the states’ eligible citizens had opted to have a vaccination. Infection rates in Alabama are sky rocketing and the great concern is that the disease might morph into a new vaccine-resistant variant as a result of that spread.
Definitely skewed towards the unvaccinated, but it is nowhere near exclusively. I think there is a tendency for a snobby attitude (not by you) to paint new patients as ‘dumb rednecks’ from places like Alabama, but it is not. In liberal, educated, wealthy California, with a majority of the population vaccinated, there was still 9,500 new cases and 46 new deaths in the last 24 hours alone (WAY more than Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana etc by the way) .
My point is that it would be much worse without vaccinations, but even in highly vaccinated populations this virus, especially the newer variants, is still a bugger of a health crisis. There’s a perception that if we get vaccinations to a certain percentage then we can just open the borders up and go back to business as usual. That ain’t happening, if we’re serious.
America is now back to getting the most daily new cases in the world again. Europe also trending up again in both cases and deaths. This shows that vaccines are a necessary part of the toolkit, but they are not a magic bullet.
Even with increased vaccine take up, a hard international border needs to be part of our strategy for a long time to come. There’s no going back to normal any time soon.
@harvey said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
More New Ltd, this time Riccio:
NRL transfer market: Who your club wants to sign and what they need for 2022
WESTS TIGERS
The poor Tigers can’t land a tadpole let alone a big fish. Their latest move is an 11th hour bid for Dale Finucane after Tevita Pangai Jr and Scott Sorensen knocked them back. I keep hearing Aaron Woods, with his big-body, leadership qualities and emotional ties to his former club, could finish in the black and gold.
“I keep hearing” = made up.
@earl said in Hastings signed for 22/23 *Official.:
@truetiger said in Hastings signed for 22/23 *Official.:
NOT LOOKING FOR NEGATIVE FORUM FIGHTING
Sorry mate that is all I got.
Laurie can be moved and maybe that would work but my take is that Laurie owns the fullback spot but he has a lot of work to do.
I keep bringing where does Hastings play because to me AD and Brooks are playing great. I don’t like moving players around too much as well.
I think to start with Hastings should take Mbye’s utility spot then see what happens from there.
He doesn’t want to be here, he’s not interested, he’s not trying. If the Dragons take up just $1 of what we’re paying the bludger it’s a better deal than what we’re getting now.
@willow said in Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread:
The frustrating part in all of this is the WT know they are paying Mbye too much, but they’re also too dim-witted to release him to the Dragons this year, which means we’ll be stuck with him for next year.
Don’t tell me we are saying no to the Dragons offer??? That will do me.
@radoush said in Coronavirus Outbreak:
It’s the quickest way to get to what Bill Gates wants when he said in his Ted talk he wants to control the words population through vaccination
Yeah nah, he didn’t say that.
@avocadoontoast said in Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread:
@tigerpower said in Moses Mbye Super Duper Thread:
Another player who has robbed the tigers. Will be up there with the top thieves of tigers money in history. Up there with Reynolds and packer. Thanks Cleary, another one of your amazing legacy byes.
Mbye was better than them because he actually played. Reynolds and Packer were the worst but I worry Musgrove might be a bad one too.
I have no hard feelings with Reynolds, he wanted to play but was cruelled by injury. In the few chances he got he always tried his guts out.
Mbye, though. The bludger stopped trying a long time ago.
So disappointed in ARLC with this decision.
World cup is the only money making opportunity for international rugby league.
I really hope that the other nations still play and the NRL players are able to make it to play for their countries and stick it up Australia and NZ.
This is why Australia gets a very bad wrap in the international space, prioritises NRL over international footy.
They could bring in USA and Canada teams to make the 16.
Or create an ‘invitational’ Australia and NZ team from overseas based players.Tonga v England in the final would be amazing. Stuff Australia
I hope Serbia gets a call up too. They only just missed out in the qualifiers, and they are one of the ‘good guys’ of international league in that they are really developing their domestic comp and used almost exclusively domestic players in the qualifiers - against teams like Greece and Italy stacked full of Australians.
Famous club Red Star Belgrade wants to eventually get a league team in Super League.