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@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Its like employing a financial planner
They are there to help you get the best return on your money

Financial planners being there to get you the best return is actually the complete opposite way to the way the industry works. Financial planners are there to take money out of your hand and offer nothing at all in return.

Warren Buffet agrees with me.

Just for the record, that is not my quote, I was responding to that quote.

My quote was,

“As long as we don’t employ Elijah’s financial planner.
Some of them don’t want to return your money.”

So I guess, along with Warren Buffet we both agree on the usefulness of financial planners.

As a financial planner, thats a little offensive. There are plenty of good ones out there that you don’t hear about. Its only the rogues that get the attention - all industries have them.

Sorry if I offended you, and I would agree that there are good and and bad operators in every industry, and I take it that you are one of the good ones in your industry.

I understand that there has been a bit of a shake up in the industry in recent times relating to disclosure of commissions and requirements to put clients’ interests first and for financial advisors to disclose any conflicts of interest.

However, various inquires and Banking Royal Commissions haven’t done a lot to enhance the reputation of financial advisors.

My own personal experience with 2 or 3 financial advisors that I have had initial meetings with haven’t really given me the confidence to part with the 2 or 3 thousand dollars that they wanted to come up with a plan for my particular situation.

Thats fair enough Hank. The Royal Commission has started raising the bar ie. degree required etc which can only be good for the industry.

Many people are skeptical about advisers for good reason but hopefully that changes once the riff raff has exited.

Financial Planner (and my naivety) cost me $250K after investing in Great Southern and Timbercorp investments. I was lucky - some others committed suicide. Good and bad in every industry- I found the worst grub on the planet

Wow … that’s a pretty horrific ordeal to go through mate …
You must have a well paid job in order to recover …

Went overseas and earned good money. Got me out of trouble. But cost me my marriage and a lot of mental stress I can tell you. Remarried and building a new house now - means a lot in so many ways mate. It’s been a journey

I went through the breast cancer crap with my ex…the chemo and therapy mixed with different drugs got the better of both of us…It really hurts when you personally know your doing your best but end up with a kick in the guts.I have remained very amicable because I know what she went through…in a word horrific…However,I almost wanted to drive my ute over the Macquarie pass because I was in a state of confusion and was hurting…Now I try and keep a sensible head on my shoulders because I know I would hurt family members in more ways than one by doing what I wanted to do…the WTs are my real oak in my life that helps me converse with my forum buddies as well as give me an interest in life…If I get to meet some one I hope she loves the WTs as much as I do…
Theres always hope I suppose…

Deadset I give up with the negative nellies on here…we have an opportunity to make a big difference to what we are used to and yet there is constant negativity and despair from people…Its a game,its a club,its a team…its not a death sentence if things dont pan out, at least Madge has more passion then some on here …and they want to get rid of him…God bless the lot of you…

Hi all,the missus came out of hospital yesterday afternoon after having a hysterectomy,she is a bit sore but all went well…so far so good…I will be going to the game today as my mum in law is coming down to see the missus and I will go to Campo to see dad in law,have some beers with him and then off to watch the mighty Tigers beat the crap out of the Knights…have a great day guys and girls,go WTs…

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I know that a lot of us are curious about who will play 13,but,I reckon Madge is no fool and the 13 is an important position to fill…Even though we havent recruited a known 13,Madge may have been working with one of our squad members to fill the void in 2021…
He is there everyday working with this squad and surely has had someone within that position readying for the trials or rnd1…
Who that player is,only Madge knows at this point in time…
I have faith in Madge to fill that void with an astute player…Who knows what may eventuate from the trial game(s)…

Agree,and i hope he has someone groomed for the fullback position as well.

Mbye will be fullback

To paraphrase your comment from a few days ago concerning Momo, if Mbye is fullback for most of the year we’re not in the 8.

Well if that is your opinion don’t expect to be in the 8.

Right now, I don’t. We don’t have the backs to do the job.

And you want to replace the only one capable of playing the position with one of the other backs. Mbye is a good fullback if he has worked out his issues under the high ball.

Can’t recall saying that. I said (basically) that if Mbye is FB we won’t make the 8. Like many on this site I was hoping we could get Laurie across. If he was here I think he’d be first choice FB. But he’s not so we’re probably stuck with Mbye at FB and I can’t see us making the 8 with him there.

If he has rectified his defusal of the highball then there is no reason he can’t be fullback in a top 8 team. I was hoping we would get Laurie as well, even if we got him I doubt we would have started him at fullback to start the year.

You raised my comment about Momo, the difference is Mbye is our best fullback, Momo has at least 4 players who are currently better centres than him and probably another 4 who are potentially better centres.

Think we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’d love Mbye to be a raging success at FB, I just don’t see it. Mbye is probably our best FB but we haven’t recruited a FB for 2021 so it’s a bit like being damned by faint praise.

I would have traded Momo is a second to get Laurie for 2021, it didn’t happen though and acknowledge we are incredibly short at fullback and 5/8th. Mbye can do a job at fullback though and him playing the majority of games won’t be the reason we miss the 8, if we do miss the 8.

I really think that some people on here keep the dislike for Moses because of his pay packet,we should all be clear,Moses did very well for us in 2018 when he came over,Ivan left us ALL including some players out to dry including a terrible cap…
Mbye can and will do a good job for us if he is left at FB and not chopped and changed as was last couple of years,the weight of captaincy is off his shoulders and people also forget he had a groin injury I was told that he carried most of last year…
I hope he kills it for us at FB especially now JTJ adds experience and much needed speed to the side…I think things will be ok for us…we will make the 8 if the team all stay fit and keep their heads together…just my opinion though…

Simpkins played for the Wests Magpies on the weekend.He had an outstanding game…

Stats…
Played 73 minutes…
ran for 133 metres…
post contact metres 63…
tackles 49…no misses…

source nine nsm…

Madge and Hartigan may have found a “a little lump of coal that can turn into a diamond”…

I just wish some people would see what Madge and co are trying to do…we have missed out on finals for 10 years,we have bought players that were supposed to end our drought,we have failed to keep our pathways open,we have had topline players at the time of recruitment fail us through injuries…
Madge is developing young talented players to be our future and yet there are people who want to sack him because of poor results…
if most on here cant see the young guys are learning and slowly understanding what it takes to play NRL then they should really get some valium and some drink …because its going to take a little longer to completely field an NRL team to be competative for the years ahead…

Happy Easter everybody,enjoy the footy,the weekend with friends and family and most of all take care and stay safe…God bless…

WHEN THE PLAYERS MISS 85 TACKLES IN 2 GAMES IT HAS TO BE ON THEM…PEAHEARTS THAT WONT COMMIT NEED TO BE SHOWN THE DOOR…You can only blame Maguire so much before proffesional players have to accept the consequences of their inactions…The buck stops with them,they get paid very well to perform,if they cant buy someone who will …

Couple of things I would like to mention that have come from this thread…
1…If Pearce was such a good human and wanted to marry the lady he loves,he wouldnt have even thought about texting another woman…
2…Luke Garner played far better football outside of Brooks,its when he ran good lines and got good ball from Brooks…Benji side crabbed and stifled all the play when trying for the low percentage plays that had Garner in a quandry…
3…Madge will have learnt from 2020 and I would be absolutely gobbsmacked if he doesnt rectify the problems we all observed in games last year…

finally I cant wait for the season to start because Im sure there will be plenty of surprises in store for us as avid WTs fans…

With the top 30 squad almost complete and great recruitment this off season…wouldnt it be great if the WTs have a finals birth with the NRL team and CC team this year…we have good young quality players that no doubt will be in CC as well as experienced players…sorta makes you a bit excited for season 2021.

It takes time and pain to develop a top NRL side…we have the platform for future success…
The youth want to play for Madge BUT must learn what it takes to play NRL,hard work,great attitude and selflessness,they all need to be on the same page…some of these players are a couple of pages behind but are learning,the other ones think they dont need to do better because they have been here to long…
Unfortunately when Madge gets sacked and a new target is installed,while nothing changes above,we will end up with the same result and people will be back in the same boat"rowing for a new coach"

@cochise said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

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You guys thought Madge was bad. Wait until you see our next coach. Wait until you see him spend the next 3 years undoing Madge’s roster, only to get sacked once he’s done.

When will our club learn. Seriously. We are an embarrassment.

I thought it wasn’t Madge’s roster?

It’s his roster now. The Ivan players are gone as of the end of this season.

So this season was all Mbye and Packer’s fault?

No coshise,they were part of the dismal year,Packer got paid as per contract and played bugger all,Mbye has been moved on and we still pay some of his frieght…
What all the Madge haters cant understand is that he has got the pathways back on track,has got some great young talent to lay a foundation for the future,has passion for the club just like us,debuted some young guys and wants to change the culture of the club from the rotten boys club that ran it for years…he hasnt got an NRL level squad to field week in week out,but he is developing them ,this takes time…the sooner the people realise the real problems the better…hint…higher up than Madge,its been going on for years with favourites etc…Lee …his influence to extend Noffa…an example…read between the lines…

I will renew my membership…

Im a glutton for punishment …

And I love the WTs…

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@yeahcaz said in Tigers board to undertake post-season review:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster …our roster sucks big time …Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn’t looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years …we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances …

When I have seen no defensive structure for 3 seasons you can blame the players all you like , the bottom line is Maguire surrounded himself with very poor assistants this was his doing if he was a good coach he would of rectified the situation:
Maguire is done get over it !

Just curious, @Snake. What will you do if Maguire is retained?

Where out … just follow as a non paying supporter we will no longer support the club financially as a member !
If Maguire is not removed it’s a message from the club
that they have no intention of rectifying the mediocrity level with in the club .
The club has to realise its not good enough to expect supporters every season to pay out hard earned cash when the hard work is not reciprocated!
I will state one thing if the club are losing supporters like us this club has MAJOR ISSUES !As we have had memberships with the Magpies and the Tigers for 30 yrs.
It all depends how much skin you have in the game and that skin looks like going back into our pockets .

Totally respect your choice of renewing your membership Snake,however if the board decides that they will keep Madge because he has an extension and they dont want to fall back onto the “sack the coach theme”…isnt that showing us that the club is changing and letting Madge continue with the culture change and developing fine young talent to lay a solid platform for the future…

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/60U8yC97tyOKxjnqsm4z4W?si=axfAFm0KQ6CRUgX_uNBzvw&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2M6mb9MyZBHKEdrbTyq4Wm&dl_branch=1

This is a great listen so far. An in depth description of someone who has dealt with the big wigs at the club. I’m half hour in and it’s pretty damming

Correct the problem is wests asfield.

They say our players are happy to br nrl players.

Our board and ceo are happy just to be working for a nrl club.

Winning is irrelevant.

Critism on negotiation is on point.

If we lose Stefano to the bloody slime that we signed him from, I am done.

Legit question. What’s keeping him here?

Madge

As if Madge had him in and out of first grade for no reason and the only reason he kept starting is because people were in his ear all origin camp about how shit of a coach he is.

You mean he was bringing him into first grade in a controlled manner to ensure his successful development.

You are giving Madge far too much credit there.

You know this how?

Observing him for many years

Do you know him?

What are you? 5 years old?
No I don’t know him, so what? That is irrelevant.
If you think Madge is a good coach, that is your bad luck.

A coach is only as good as his roster …our roster sucks big time …Madge is wearing a cumulutive effect of a club who hasn’t looked like a Top 8 side for 11 years …we can attract players becuase we are miles away from playing finals or pushing a players representative chances …

How many times this year did we see Madge interviewed before a game and excitedly claim the team trained/prepared well and are ready to make a statement, only to be 12+ down in no time? Same in that stupid doco…he rants and raves and tells them he knows they are ready to dig in and then they take the field and get spanked.
His words have no effect on the players. They are on different pages.

Or maybe they aren’t good enough to do it. Who on this forum really knows what is happening - no-one?You drawing conclusions to suit your perception of Madge without knowing didly squat apart from we are losing games.

To add to that,if I didnt perform well after a couple of games my coach would drop me because we had guys competing for spots behind us…the WTs players in the top 17 know that there isnt enough talented depth to replace them…cini,madden for example,great blokes but arent anywhere near NRL standard atm…

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Makes me laugh when punters say it’s the pack that’s let Brooks down lol

More like it’s Brooks that’s continually let the pack down

Punt him …
Pay him out
#noloss

What about at 9 Hobbo? He is a good defender.

What do you think, could it work?

No. Stop making excuses for this perennial loser and stop trying to fit him into a team he just doesn’t work in.

Maybe the team doesn’t fit into Brooks.

Lol what a ridiculous take on 8 years of failure.

I think it’s worth the discussion. What do you think @Tiger5150 ?

Its a good point, I havent seen it looked at from that perspective before. I think its important to consider it before discarding Brooks. Needs some looking into.

I agree let’s give him another 8 years at say a million per season?
Awesome.

Seems excessive to me.

Explain to us all what you are seeing that makes him worth that kind of investment?

I wouldn’t even use the garden gnome as a doorstop.

Im only going to say this once and whatever happens to Luke,either staying or punted…
Look at Adam Reynolds,he is consistent and knows his job week in week out,yes he does have some faults as does any NRL player in their positions,however they are human,Brooks has had many chances …known as excuses…he does have talent,but not the smarts or heart to take hold of a game and be THAT leader the team looks to…
In a nutshell what has been against Luke is his …
Inconsistency…
lack of organising…
lack of controling games…
He probably is a fine person and human,but sometimes that doesnt cut it in the hard grind of NRL …

How many teams and how many forwards ,5/8 ,fb,hookers does Brooks need after 170 games to show us he is a leading NRL standard 1/2 back…its beyond the joke now …he is a junior ,but hasnt made it at NRL level…many others havent also but this joint keeps persisting to the point that we have to punt the coach…JT.Potter,now Madge…wake up and smell the roses,the fan club really needs to give it up…

@tiger5150 said in Luke Brooks:

Deserves another chance. Maybe a different coach. Maybe with a less dominant 5/8 next to him?

Mate ,Brooks had Mbye alongside of him who is a specialist halves player,Brooks played very well in those few games…but everyone bagged Moses because of his paycheck that Ivan gave him…I think the wrong guy has moved on…but Moses will do well at the Dragons…Brooks may improve or as Hobbo says punt him…

@tyga said in ‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco:

@truetiger said in ‘It’s the truth’: compelling new WT doco:

Yeah you can all scream the love for Farah NOW…but he was the leader of the boys club that we are now seeing the true effects of…players not commited,weak intestinal fortitude for the purpose of getting the coach sacked and support of the weak board you guys are all seeing now…
I hope he does well as well as I hope they give Madge the full tenure to complete his work…and just for Demps if Farah wasnt Lebo ,how much support would you give him…and be fair in your answer…

Farah was never the problem. Hardest trainer we had and played his heart out for the club. Was too emotional and needed strong leaders which disappeared at the club. He has his downfalls but effort and will to win is not one of them.

Never said that ,but when we had Potter who was a great person ,Farah said he cant coach…so is Farah an NRL credentialed coach or a highly paid player under his coach…cant be both but apparently he thought he was…

Yeah you can all scream the love for Farah NOW…but he was the leader of the boys club that we are now seeing the true effects of…players not commited,weak intestinal fortitude for the purpose of getting the coach sacked and support of the weak board you guys are all seeing now…
I hope he does well as well as I hope they give Madge the full tenure to complete his work…and just for Demps if Farah wasnt Lebo ,how much support would you give him…and be fair in your answer…