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@Russell said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

@weststigers said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

@Russell said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

@weststigers said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

@Hangonaminute said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

Anyone got any inside info on Garner?

Is he carrying an injury?
Not happy?

Something is up because he’s half the player he was

A few on here are happy that Garner got dropped, but he’s be entitled to feel disappointed in my opinion.

Played 80 minutes. He made 46 tackles and missed 2. 10 hitups for 87 metres.

Luciano played 80 and made 9 hitups for 83 metres…33 tackles with 1 missed.

Don’t understand Madge’s issue with Garner.

If you don’t understand - maybe you didn’t watch the last few of his games.

It’s not just stats that win you games or save you from being dropped.

OK coach…explain it to me then. Why is Garner more deserving of being dropped than say, Doueihi?

Oh! wake up, we are talking about second rowers here - pay attention!

You’re one of the great rugby league minds…sorry I doubted you…wait…where’s the explanation?

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@Russell said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

@weststigers said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

@Hangonaminute said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

Anyone got any inside info on Garner?

Is he carrying an injury?
Not happy?

Something is up because he’s half the player he was

A few on here are happy that Garner got dropped, but he’s be entitled to feel disappointed in my opinion.

Played 80 minutes. He made 46 tackles and missed 2. 10 hitups for 87 metres.

Luciano played 80 and made 9 hitups for 83 metres…33 tackles with 1 missed.

Don’t understand Madge’s issue with Garner.

If you don’t understand - maybe you didn’t watch the last few of his games.

It’s not just stats that win you games or save you from being dropped.

OK coach…explain it to me then. Why is Garner more deserving of being dropped than say, Doueihi?

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@Hangonaminute said in Wests Tigers Team v Newcastle Rd 13:

Anyone got any inside info on Garner?

Is he carrying an injury?
Not happy?

Something is up because he’s half the player he was

A few on here are happy that Garner got dropped, but he’s be entitled to feel disappointed in my opinion.

Played 80 minutes. He made 46 tackles and missed 2. 10 hitups for 87 metres.

Luciano played 80 and made 9 hitups for 83 metres…33 tackles with 1 missed.

Don’t understand Madge’s issue with Garner.

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Any truth to Chee-Kam moving to Bulldogs?

posted in Wests Tigers Discussion read more

This is not the coaches fault.

Under Madge we’ve put in some consistent performances and in some games against the top teams, we’ve lost players during those games or gone into them understrength through injury. Not making excuses, but it’s not that bad as far as our coach is concerned.

We are missing a quality half, centre and winger. Possibly a quality lock.

With Brooks there, it’s like he doesn’t really know what to do to win the game…

Harry seems to be the only one that takes charge…

Mbye has the pressure of a big salary, kicking goals, playing out of position and the captaincy…we need to take the captaincy off him.

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@Tiger-Tragic said in But how do we get good this year?:

@Telltails said in But how do we get good this year?:

@Tiger-Tragic said in But how do we get good this year?:

Maguire believes it all comes down to “attitude”, particularly in being prepared to aim up in defence. He seems confident that he has the players to be more consistent and successful than they currently are.

But, does he know the reason for the “attitude” that some display? Does he look at himself, for instance, and his man-management methods?

Does he truly understand the dynamics/personalities/character of the individuals that make up the team? By getting the best “attitude” from 17 individuals is how the team will be more successful.

A ranting, screaming and chair kicking half-time pep talk (when they are leading) might change the attitude of “some”, but not “all” of them.

So, while we are all having our say on players that are letting us down (and, isn’t it weird that we don’t agree who they are?), the form of this team sits squarely with the coaching staff and their ability to get the best attitude from each individual. I’m more hopeful than confident that they have the talents to do it.

You could slot any or all coaches into that summation and a thousand other questions and still not have the answers why some weeks they just don’t fire.
It is a taxing game physically and mentally with a short turn around - sometimes the mind and body are just not in tune - regardless of what the coach says or how he delivers it.
The best players are those that can consistently produce it every week, and they are a rare breed.

Fair comment, but, what’s the answer to the original post …“how do we get good this year”?

My opinion is that it will require honest reflection and flexibility in the way that the coaching staff do their job.

What’s yours? Or can it just not happen?

How do we get good?

With the season in the balance, I wouldn’t mind seeing a 2005 style mentality where we simply try to outscore the opposition.

Attack this year has been very good and defence so-so.

Kick to the corners…
Hit teams at the edges 2 or 3 times a set.
High attacking intensity - quick play the balls, engage the line, quick passing
Quick line speed in defence

We’re fit enough to execute…

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@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tcat said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hobbo1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Signing Foran would be a deadset disaster
He’s one injury away from a nursing home …
We ain’t that desperate.

Foran isn’t going to help us win a premiership or get us closer to the 8. He’s been playing in a similar team to us with the dogs and hasn’t been able to get them close. Forget him and let’s look abit harder.

I understand the concerns with foran but he’s by far the best half available right now and imo we’d be a much better team with him in it. We know our current halves aren’t good enough so do we take the risk of signing someone like foran or do we not sign anyone and resign ourself to not making the 8 for 2021 too?

We need players who are going to plug a hole for us for the next 1-2 years until our bad contracts expire and we can actually spend on quality in the market.

Perhaps Foran is the man in the halves? Our halves don’t really take on the line, so he’d be a welcome change and he leads by example…never shirks his responsibility.

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McQueen, E Taylor and Jennings off contract at the end of this year as well as a number of players on low value contracts. Plus we get the $375K back in the cap.

We should have around $1.5 Million to spend.

Hopefully we can jag a centre and a decent 5/8…I’m dreaming

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@cochise said in breathe:

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My argument was that you can only have one star player on overs without needing a lot of lower level players to balance the salary cap.
$1.2M a year for Keary sounds good to me, over 4 years he would be getting over $1M more with us. If only there was a draft to stop the top teams staying on top.

Jimmy Maloney…that guy eats premierships for breakfast

I’d agree except he is now 34.

Who cares…Super Cronk was 35…

Because you are taking a risk on any 34 year old, including Cronk. He is also a very different player than Cronk and relies a lot more on his speed than Cronk ever did. He is much more of gunslinger type player who keeps taking chances no matter the outcome, most of those sorts of players do not age that well.

Ok coach

Good reply lol, just having a discussion with you.

Glad you enjoyed it

Yeah I did, its like you just gave up lol

I’m just not averse to having a seasoned playmaker as backup on minimal cash like we do with Marshall. His age makes him low cost, but It’s good backup and guys like that will do a job for us when needed.

Having Marshall (and Reynolds at times) has been good for us. Imagine if we had Brooks and Walters all season without any first grade standard backup…we’d essentially be the Bulldogs.

It’s all I’m saying.

lol…

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@cochise said in breathe:

@weststigers said in breathe:

@cochise said in breathe:

@weststigers said in breathe:

@cochise said in breathe:

@weststigers said in breathe:

@Sart0ri said in breathe:

My argument was that you can only have one star player on overs without needing a lot of lower level players to balance the salary cap.
$1.2M a year for Keary sounds good to me, over 4 years he would be getting over $1M more with us. If only there was a draft to stop the top teams staying on top.

Jimmy Maloney…that guy eats premierships for breakfast

I’d agree except he is now 34.

Who cares…Super Cronk was 35…

Because you are taking a risk on any 34 year old, including Cronk. He is also a very different player than Cronk and relies a lot more on his speed than Cronk ever did. He is much more of gunslinger type player who keeps taking chances no matter the outcome, most of those sorts of players do not age that well.

Ok coach

Good reply lol, just having a discussion with you.

Glad you enjoyed it