Farah's Last Hurrah

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Re: Farah's Last Hurrah

Post by Harvey » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm

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One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.


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Post by Balmain Boy » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:48 pm

If Robbie plays on he'd have to accept that he's going to have to play a number of games in ISP. Liddle is our hooker, Robbie the fill in. They may interchange for a bit with each playing half a game but the reality is Liddle will be our number one hooker and if Robbie isn't ok with that he should retire now and we'll sign someone who's happy to play off the bench or wait for a chance in ISP

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:07 pm

Some good points raised about just how this mentoring role for Liddle will work. If that is what its going to be, then like Seibold with Cook this year, Cleary has to run with Liddle as the number 1 hooker, and Farah at best plays on the bench. There were no complaints when that was done at Souths. If Farah is the best option cos there is no one else, then be prepared to lose Liddle.

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Post by TopTiger » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:10 pm

If Robbie signs on for one more year I am certain that Ivan would point out his role for the upcoming season whether that is sharing the hooking role for a number of games or occasionally having a week off to freshen up (Seibold allowed Robbie to do this at Souths given he missed several Norths games). Robbie would be made aware of what Ivan expects from him same as when he recently signed on for the remainder of this season.

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Post by Telltails » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:11 pm

Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:13 am
One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.
If Liddle can play 80 minutes everyweek and his form keeps Farah out well - whats the problem? The coach is always going to pick the best team and if its Liddle so be it.
Liddle has not been able to sustain that so far now he can be eased into it with Farah there. And we have able replacement instead of ET when he and if he is not on the field.


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Post by hobbo » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:28 pm

Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:11 pm
Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:13 am
One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.
If Liddle can play 80 minutes everyweek and his form keeps Farah out well - whats the problem? The coach is always going to pick the best team and if its Liddle so be it.
Liddle has not been able to sustain that so far now he can be eased into it with Farah there. And we have able replacement instead of ET when he and if he is not on the field.
It’s pretty simple really isn’t it ...

But the Farah haters still dramatise the situation .
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Post by Balmain Boy » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:54 pm

Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:11 pm
Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:13 am
One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.
If Liddle can play 80 minutes everyweek and his form keeps Farah out well - whats the problem? The coach is always going to pick the best team and if its Liddle so be it.
Liddle has not been able to sustain that so far now he can be eased into it with Farah there. And we have able replacement instead of ET when he and if he is not on the field.
The problem is Robbie won't play ISP if Liddle is our number one and playing 80 mins. So we will have no match fit backup hooker if LIddle gets injured.

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Post by Telltails » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 4:17 pm

Balmain Boy wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:54 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:11 pm
Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:13 am
One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.
If Liddle can play 80 minutes everyweek and his form keeps Farah out well - whats the problem? The coach is always going to pick the best team and if its Liddle so be it.
Liddle has not been able to sustain that so far now he can be eased into it with Farah there. And we have able replacement instead of ET when he and if he is not on the field.
The problem is Robbie won't play ISP if Liddle is our number one and playing 80 mins. So we will have no match fit backup hooker if LIddle gets injured.
And there is no guarantee Liddle will play 80 either in 2019 and or even be a better option! Its up to Liddle to prove himself and if he is good enough he will.
Farah doesnt need to play ISP every week he didnt at Souths and was fine to play 80 when needed. Dont think match fitness is a problem and whatever arrangement they come up with it will still come back to what works best for the team and the coach will decide that.

This is not about Liddle alone its about whats best for the team and Liddle is better off competing against someone at the end of his career than a player wanting to cement a FG position.

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Post by Tiger Steve » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 4:31 pm

Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 12:43 pm
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/201 ... ame-jersey

Farahs 250 jersey presentation .. .says alot.
Wow! More of these insights and less from morons in the media would help us form a much clearer picture of players. What a wonderful insight this short clip provided. Can’t wait for tomorrow arvo!!
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Post by Harvey » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 6:03 pm

Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:11 pm
Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:13 am
One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.
If Liddle can play 80 minutes everyweek and his form keeps Farah out well - whats the problem? The coach is always going to pick the best team and if its Liddle so be it.
Liddle has not been able to sustain that so far now he can be eased into it with Farah there. And we have able replacement instead of ET when he and if he is not on the field.
So you are suggesting that next year if the interchange is reduced we play 2 hookers in the 17? If Liddle can play 80 minutes and keeps Farah out, expect a lot of negative media coverage.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 6:07 pm

2019 is make or break for Liddle. He should be given every chance. He is the priority.

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Post by Telltails » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 6:15 pm

Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 6:03 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 3:11 pm
Harvey wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 2:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:13 am
One more year for Farah will do no harm in helping develop Liddles game. All clubs carry two hookers we will only have to sign another one. He is probably the best option and is an asset while ever he is fit and able rather than a problem. If the terms and conditions are right he will bring more value than some of our other signings.
Can someone explain how Farah will develop Liddle’s game? His game will not develop playing ISP (he is already killing it) and Farah has already given an interview saying that playing reserve grade for norths left him disheartened and ready to retire.

So either we have a bench hooker when interchanges are being reduced or we have injuries, or we leave Liddle in reserve grade next year at which point his contract is up and he is free to look around.
If Liddle can play 80 minutes everyweek and his form keeps Farah out well - whats the problem? The coach is always going to pick the best team and if its Liddle so be it.
Liddle has not been able to sustain that so far now he can be eased into it with Farah there. And we have able replacement instead of ET when he and if he is not on the field.
So you are suggesting that next year if the interchange is reduced we play 2 hookers in the 17? If Liddle can play 80 minutes and keeps Farah out, expect a lot of negative media coverage.
Im sure all that will be taken into consideration Harvey. But Liddle is yet to show that he can handle the demands of FG and Farah is a good short term solution until he can - rather than looking for another hooker who may want more than a short term contract and a second choice hooker.

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Post by Eddie » Fri 20 Jul, 2018 6:52 pm

The priority is to win games. I like Liddle however he has a long way to go to simply b handed the spot on a silver platter. Farah has been back 2 games and has had more impact. Cleary will make the right call anyway I’m sure -

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Post by Elderslie Tiger » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 9:57 am

If you haven't seen Robbies 250th game jersey presentation by Royce Simmons do yourself a favor and watch it.Robbie and Royce didn't play together but Robbie credits Royce for making him the player he is today from he's time on the coaching staff at Wests Tigers this is what Robbie will do for Jacob they dont have to play together all Jacob has to do is listen and be guided by someone whose been there done that, this will bring the potential out that we all know is there.

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Post by jirskyr » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 11:48 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 1:38 pm
jirskyr wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 12:50 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:56 am
Doesn't matter how good their form is this year, just look at Thurston. Players fall off cliffs in their mid 30's.
Well that's good because Benji is currently 33 - 2 or so years to go.

As Geo noted, Cam Smith is 35. Also Cronk is 34, Gallen is 36. Slater just turned 35. Flash Gordon is 34.

Farah's had the best part now of 2 years playing reggies, he may be nice and fresh.
He'll be 34 come round 1 2019. Farah will be 35. If you wanna argue semantics though, go right ahead.
Talk about arguing semantics! Benji will be, what, 3 weeks into his 34th year come Rd 1 2019? His birthday is 25th Feb.

Point is you judge the footballer on how he's travelling, not how old he is. His age will speak for itself when it's time. I get what you are saying about age, but you can't just put lines through people because they've hit some milestone. Smith, Gallen, Slater, Gordon, Cronk all older right this very minute than Benji will be next year. And Benji had a year off playing rugby, plus a year playing ISP.

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Post by Harvey » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 11:54 am

They say absence makes the heart grow fonder.

I remember people demanding Benji be sent to reserve grade after about round 7. Back for one game & lets re-sign him. I think some people on this forum have very short attention spans or memory issues.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 11:55 am

jirskyr wrote:
Sat 21 Jul, 2018 11:48 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 1:38 pm
jirskyr wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 12:50 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 9:56 am
Doesn't matter how good their form is this year, just look at Thurston. Players fall off cliffs in their mid 30's.
Well that's good because Benji is currently 33 - 2 or so years to go.

As Geo noted, Cam Smith is 35. Also Cronk is 34, Gallen is 36. Slater just turned 35. Flash Gordon is 34.

Farah's had the best part now of 2 years playing reggies, he may be nice and fresh.
He'll be 34 come round 1 2019. Farah will be 35. If you wanna argue semantics though, go right ahead.
Talk about arguing semantics! Benji will be, what, 3 weeks into his 34th year come Rd 1 2019? His birthday is 25th Feb.

Point is you judge the footballer on how he's travelling, not how old he is. His age will speak for itself when it's time. I get what you are saying about age, but you can't just put lines through people because they've hit some milestone. Smith, Gallen, Slater, Gordon, Cronk all older right this very minute than Benji will be next year. And Benji had a year off playing rugby, plus a year playing ISP.
All the players you mentioned are future immortals and players who won premierships and have played finals year after year. Something our pair haven’t done. Plus, Marshall in particular has not shown the form the players you mentioned have.

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Post by happy tiger » Sat 21 Jul, 2018 12:26 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Fri 20 Jul, 2018 6:07 pm
2019 is make or break for Liddle. He should be given every chance. He is the priority.
Liddle at the very least deserves the same chances Brooks has got

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