Top 5 Most Hated Wests Tiger Coach or Player

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Re: Top 5 Most Hated Wests Tiger Coach or Player

Post by Harvey » Wed 03 Oct, 2018 4:45 pm

Keep this thread open for 2 years.

I would have (at the moment)
Anasta
Hopoate
Hill
Blair
Farah
Sironen.

Ivan is making a play for top billing, and some of his recruits can climb the charts.

Incompetence or lack of ability are much less impact (and beyond your control) than pursuing self interests and denigrating the club to enhance your standing or protect your reputation


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Post by Lidcombe Magpie » Wed 03 Oct, 2018 4:54 pm

Chicken Faced Killa wrote:
Mon 01 Oct, 2018 9:36 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Mon 01 Oct, 2018 9:34 am
Chicken Faced Killa wrote:
Mon 01 Oct, 2018 9:31 am
Why’s Payton get an honourable mention?
White ant. As a player, he’s probably in my top 3 as my all time favourite WT’s players. Doesn’t have a good reputiation as a coach though.
Fair enough haven’t watched his coaching efforts closely or heard of the white anting but I guess it is there.
Plus he urinated on a war memorial in Sydney's Hyde Park

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Post by bathursttiger » Wed 03 Oct, 2018 5:29 pm

Ivan
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Post by The Patriot » Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:10 pm

Tiger Steve wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 4:44 pm
1. Ivan Cleary
2. Nathan Cleary ( according to Brent Read)
3. Beau Ryan
4. Braith Anasta
5. Shannon McDonnell (only graded because of his dad)

Dishonourable mentions:
1. Hopoate
2. Lamb
What did i miss here?
Its an opinion!

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Post by TIGERPOWER » Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm

1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.


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Post by Tiger Steve » Wed 03 Oct, 2018 8:03 pm

The Patriot wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:10 pm
Tiger Steve wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 4:44 pm
1. Ivan Cleary
2. Nathan Cleary ( according to Brent Read)
3. Beau Ryan
4. Braith Anasta
5. Shannon McDonnell (only graded because of his dad)

Dishonourable mentions:
1. Hopoate
2. Lamb
What did i miss here?
Brent Read stated a few weeks ago that Nathan Cleary would play for Tigers. A bit of poetic license from me!
“Peanuts! Get ya peanuts - in the shell or sugar coated!” Leichhardt memories.

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Post by The Patriot » Wed 03 Oct, 2018 8:10 pm

Tiger Steve wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 8:03 pm
The Patriot wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:10 pm
Tiger Steve wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 4:44 pm
1. Ivan Cleary
2. Nathan Cleary ( according to Brent Read)
3. Beau Ryan
4. Braith Anasta
5. Shannon McDonnell (only graded because of his dad)

Dishonourable mentions:
1. Hopoate
2. Lamb
What did i miss here?
Brent Read stated a few weeks ago that Nathan Cleary would play for Tigers. A bit of poetic license from me!

Oh ok lol, all good.
Its an opinion!

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Post by matchball » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am

TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 6:58 am

matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
The 3 of them were gone regardless. If JT was the reason they left, they would have signed straight away once Cleary took over. All we heard before Taylor was sacked was that he needed to go for us to re-sign them. Well, he did go and it still didn’t matter. Besides, Cleary didn’t want Moses anyway, he pulled his contract offer. So wouldn’t Cleary be the reason we lost Moses?

Loke you said, Tedesco was gone already, he already left us once don’t forget. And Woods suddenly thought he was bigger than the club. Claimed in the same interview that all he wanted to do was play football, then turned around said he was never consulted about anything that went on. Sounds like a board issue.

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Post by matchball » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 9:47 am

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 6:58 am
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
The 3 of them were gone regardless. If JT was the reason they left, they would have signed straight away once Cleary took over. All we heard before Taylor was sacked was that he needed to go for us to re-sign them. Well, he did go and it still didn’t matter. Besides, Cleary didn’t want Moses anyway, he pulled his contract offer. So wouldn’t Cleary be the reason we lost Moses?

Loke you said, Tedesco was gone already, he already left us once don’t forget. And Woods suddenly thought he was bigger than the club. Claimed in the same interview that all he wanted to do was play football, then turned around said he was never consulted about anything that went on. Sounds like a board issue.
Agreed with you 100%
Just a weird contradiction and misguided. I don't see what JT did wrong besides lacking a personality.
Cleary has had way less distractions and didn't perform any better with a squad he wanted.

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Post by TIGERPOWER » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 10:46 am

matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
Seriously.
I didn’t know I had to justify my top 5 choices to you. Tell me oh wise one how should I order my top 5 to make you happy.

The biggest mistake was keeping JT that pre season and then we lose 5/6 or something like that, by then it’s too late. If we had a new coach and got off to a winning start I believe they would have stuck together and all stayed. But that’s history.

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Post by TIGERPOWER » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 10:47 am

matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 9:47 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 6:58 am
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
The 3 of them were gone regardless. If JT was the reason they left, they would have signed straight away once Cleary took over. All we heard before Taylor was sacked was that he needed to go for us to re-sign them. Well, he did go and it still didn’t matter. Besides, Cleary didn’t want Moses anyway, he pulled his contract offer. So wouldn’t Cleary be the reason we lost Moses?

Loke you said, Tedesco was gone already, he already left us once don’t forget. And Woods suddenly thought he was bigger than the club. Claimed in the same interview that all he wanted to do was play football, then turned around said he was never consulted about anything that went on. Sounds like a board issue.
Agreed with you 100%
Just a weird contradiction and misguided. I don't see what JT did wrong besides lacking a personality.
Cleary has had way less distractions and didn't perform any better with a squad he wanted.
You right JT did nothing wrong. Just couldn’t coach, pick a team or manage players. Besides that he was actually pretty good.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 11:01 am

TIGERPOWER wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 10:46 am
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
Seriously.
I didn’t know I had to justify my top 5 choices to you. Tell me oh wise one how should I order my top 5 to make you happy.

The biggest mistake was keeping JT that pre season and then we lose 5/6 or something like that, by then it’s too late. If we had a new coach and got off to a winning start I believe they would have stuck together and all stayed. But that’s history.
Quite the revisionist you are. We did not "lose 5/6 or something like that" before acting on the coaching position, it was after round 3 when we were one win and 2 losses. The club acted early, but it still didn't matter, Woods and Tedesco were gone regardless. Moses, doesn't matter cos Cleary punted him anyway.

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Post by tsjonathan » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 11:43 am

TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

Is cleary leaving? sorry i haven't been keeping abreast of news lately

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Post by matchball » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 11:46 am

TIGERPOWER wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 10:46 am
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
Seriously.
I didn’t know I had to justify my top 5 choices to you. Tell me oh wise one how should I order my top 5 to make you happy.

The biggest mistake was keeping JT that pre season and then we lose 5/6 or something like that, by then it’s too late. If we had a new coach and got off to a winning start I believe they would have stuck together and all stayed. But that’s history.
You dont have to justify anything.
Your post spoke for itself.
Misguided hate for JT for letting players go that you hate anyway.
Don't you see the conflict?

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Post by tsjonathan » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 1:52 pm

matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 11:46 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 10:46 am
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
Seriously.
I didn’t know I had to justify my top 5 choices to you. Tell me oh wise one how should I order my top 5 to make you happy.

The biggest mistake was keeping JT that pre season and then we lose 5/6 or something like that, by then it’s too late. If we had a new coach and got off to a winning start I believe they would have stuck together and all stayed. But that’s history.
You dont have to justify anything.
Your post spoke for itself.
Misguided hate for JT for letting players go that you hate anyway.
Don't you see the conflict?
relax fellas...its just a random top 5 list

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Post by TIGERPOWER » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 1:58 pm

tsjonathan wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 1:52 pm
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 11:46 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 10:46 am
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am


Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
Seriously.
I didn’t know I had to justify my top 5 choices to you. Tell me oh wise one how should I order my top 5 to make you happy.

The biggest mistake was keeping JT that pre season and then we lose 5/6 or something like that, by then it’s too late. If we had a new coach and got off to a winning start I believe they would have stuck together and all stayed. But that’s history.
You dont have to justify anything.
Your post spoke for itself.
Misguided hate for JT for letting players go that you hate anyway.
Don't you see the conflict?
relax fellas...its just a random top 5 list
Wait didn’t you get the memo, you have to get matchballs approval on your top 5 list lol. I’m pretty sure that’s called trolling or are you in the boys club too matchball lol.

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Post by TIGERPOWER » Thu 04 Oct, 2018 2:01 pm

matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 11:46 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 10:46 am
matchball wrote:
Thu 04 Oct, 2018 5:29 am
TIGERPOWER wrote:
Wed 03 Oct, 2018 6:41 pm
1. Ivan Cleary - what a dodgy man with no integrity. Talked about being on the bus, being here for the long run and sold the dream to the players. Only to turn around and stab us in the back the first chance he got. Make no mistake if he didn’t legally have to be here he would have left before the season even ended.

2. Anasta - the worst buy in our history. Took our money and gave us nothing back. Then has the nerve to put the tigers down any chance he gets.

3. Moses - players come and go, but the way he went about it was disgusting. I reckon he purposely threw at least 2 games to get his way.

4. JT - don’t hate the bloke but he couldn’t coach, couldn’t manage players and couldn’t pick players. Cost us any chance of re signing Tedesco, woods or Moses. Cost us ado Carr by continuing to play rankin. Ran this place to the ground.

5. Woods- was captain and carried on like a pork chop. Again players come and go but as captain just set such a bad example.
Seriously.
You say JT cost us the chance to re-sign Tedesco, Woods and Moses but have the latter two as your most hated? How does that work??
We were never going to keep Teddy. He was bound for better things than languishing here not winning for less money.
JT did the right thing. We are better off without the other two you hate.
Seriously.
I didn’t know I had to justify my top 5 choices to you. Tell me oh wise one how should I order my top 5 to make you happy.

The biggest mistake was keeping JT that pre season and then we lose 5/6 or something like that, by then it’s too late. If we had a new coach and got off to a winning start I believe they would have stuck together and all stayed. But that’s history.
You dont have to justify anything.
Your post spoke for itself.
Misguided hate for JT for letting players go that you hate anyway.
Don't you see the conflict?
Again don’t need to justify my list to you or why I have certain people in it. What conflict? I can hate the way woods and Moses left and bagged this club. If they had of stayed why would I hate them lol. If we had of gotten rid of JT earlier we would have retained them. That’s my opinion. Is that okay with you or are you the opinion police aswell. I thought that was insaneinks job.

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