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Post by cochise » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm

Set play wrote:
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I think a downgrade is on the cards. I’d expect Pascoe’s penalty to be lifted.
All jokes aside gnr what sort of downgrade do you think will happen.
I'd like to see Pascoe's ban lifted and the fine downgraded but believe if the rules were broken, even accidentallymthen the salary cap deduction needs to stay as a deterrent to other teams.
Yeah i suppose it does have to stay as a deterent to other teams but still think its a bit much as for pascoe if its proven he got us in this mess i would like to see him stay gone as he should of checked everything before signing off on it but its as hard one as he played a major part in turning this club around but seems to of bought it all undone with this mess.
The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.


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Post by Set play » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:14 pm

cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:53 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:43 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:38 pm

All jokes aside gnr what sort of downgrade do you think will happen.
I'd like to see Pascoe's ban lifted and the fine downgraded but believe if the rules were broken, even accidentallymthen the salary cap deduction needs to stay as a deterrent to other teams.
Yeah i suppose it does have to stay as a deterent to other teams but still think its a bit much as for pascoe if its proven he got us in this mess i would like to see him stay gone as he should of checked everything before signing off on it but its as hard one as he played a major part in turning this club around but seems to of bought it all undone with this mess.
The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.
True that and the more i think about it i has to stay because if no deductions happen the bigger clubs will just rort the cap and just get third partys to pay the fine to get a priemership.

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Post by Geo. » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:36 pm

cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:53 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:43 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:38 pm

All jokes aside gnr what sort of downgrade do you think will happen.
I'd like to see Pascoe's ban lifted and the fine downgraded but believe if the rules were broken, even accidentallymthen the salary cap deduction needs to stay as a deterrent to other teams.
Yeah i suppose it does have to stay as a deterent to other teams but still think its a bit much as for pascoe if its proven he got us in this mess i would like to see him stay gone as he should of checked everything before signing off on it but its as hard one as he played a major part in turning this club around but seems to of bought it all undone with this mess.
The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.
Are we paying him 680k a year...not even the PM gets that..nice ambassador's job
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by sheer64 » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:49 pm

Just curious if a player with any club signs an Ambassador type role in the future and it is declared, and that clubs salary cap is then reduced as per the NRLs direction; what would happen if that player was unable to take up the role? Does that mean the salary cap reduction is now invalid and that amount is now added to a future salary cap? I can feel a Rorters rort coming on.
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Post by sheer64 » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:52 pm

cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:53 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:43 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:38 pm

All jokes aside gnr what sort of downgrade do you think will happen.
I'd like to see Pascoe's ban lifted and the fine downgraded but believe if the rules were broken, even accidentallymthen the salary cap deduction needs to stay as a deterrent to other teams.
Yeah i suppose it does have to stay as a deterent to other teams but still think its a bit much as for pascoe if its proven he got us in this mess i would like to see him stay gone as he should of checked everything before signing off on it but its as hard one as he played a major part in turning this club around but seems to of bought it all undone with this mess.
The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.
I think Greenberg will need lube soon.
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Post by prattenparkchild » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:22 pm

I still need convincing how a future non playing role, yet to be accepted, can be levied against the players salary cap. Certainly there is scope to be levied against the coaching and support staff allowance but not playing roster cap surely.

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Post by prattenparkchild » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:23 pm

Sorry, double post. Damn patchy internet up here in Indonesia for some reason today.

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Post by Harvey » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:39 pm

We should withdraw the ambassador role and give Robbie and Benji a testimonial game.

Not sure when it will be scheduled as next NRL approved testimonial is scheduled for 2020 pre season, Cronk vs Smith.

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Post by cochise » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:45 pm

Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:36 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:53 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:43 pm


I'd like to see Pascoe's ban lifted and the fine downgraded but believe if the rules were broken, even accidentallymthen the salary cap deduction needs to stay as a deterrent to other teams.
Yeah i suppose it does have to stay as a deterent to other teams but still think its a bit much as for pascoe if its proven he got us in this mess i would like to see him stay gone as he should of checked everything before signing off on it but its as hard one as he played a major part in turning this club around but seems to of bought it all undone with this mess.
The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.
Are we paying him 680k a year...not even the PM gets that..nice ambassador's job
It should have been included in 2016, so not sure what your point is.

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Post by cochise » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:47 pm

sheer64 wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:49 pm
Just curious if a player with any club signs an Ambassador type role in the future and it is declared, and that clubs salary cap is then reduced as per the NRLs direction; what would happen if that player was unable to take up the role? Does that mean the salary cap reduction is now invalid and that amount is now added to a future salary cap? I can feel a Rorters rort coming on.
I'm not sure other clubs would be stupid enough to sign a contract for it.

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Post by cochise » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:50 pm

prattenparkchild wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:22 pm
I still need convincing how a future non playing role, yet to be accepted, can be levied against the players salary cap. Certainly there is scope to be levied against the coaching and support staff allowance but not playing roster cap surely.
It really is quite simple as it is an effort to prevent teams from cheating the salary cap.

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Post by Geo. » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 5:46 pm

cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:45 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:36 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:53 pm

Yeah i suppose it does have to stay as a deterent to other teams but still think its a bit much as for pascoe if its proven he got us in this mess i would like to see him stay gone as he should of checked everything before signing off on it but its as hard one as he played a major part in turning this club around but seems to of bought it all undone with this mess.
The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.
Are we paying him 680k a year...not even the PM gets that..nice ambassador's job
It should have been included in 2016, so not sure what your point is.
Well Greenburg said the total of Farah's ambasadors role over 4 years after Footy totalled 680k the amount of the Cap fine to come out of 2019 cap...hence why i asked..nothing to do with 2016...but the approval of the deal was never sought from the NRL therefore the breach..

That was from Greenburgs mouth the day of the press conference..

According to Wests Tigers Cap relief sought in 2016 for Farah being a destabalising figure was refused so no Cap relief was given...
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by cochise » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 5:52 pm

Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 5:46 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:45 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:36 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm


The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.
Are we paying him 680k a year...not even the PM gets that..nice ambassador's job
It should have been included in 2016, so not sure what your point is.
Well Greenburg said the total of Farah's ambasadors role over 4 years after Footy totalled 680k the amount of the Cap fine to come out of 2019 cap...hence why i asked..nothing to do with 2016...
It has been reported that he has been offered a role over 4 years totaling $680K, it is included in the cap over one year because it is considered part of his benefits for playing for the Tigers and the Tigers never included it in 2016 when the deal was arranged.

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Post by Geo. » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 6:12 pm

cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 5:52 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 5:46 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:45 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:36 pm


Are we paying him 680k a year...not even the PM gets that..nice ambassador's job
It should have been included in 2016, so not sure what your point is.
Well Greenburg said the total of Farah's ambasadors role over 4 years after Footy totalled 680k the amount of the Cap fine to come out of 2019 cap...hence why i asked..nothing to do with 2016...
It has been reported that he has been offered a role over 4 years totaling $680K, it is included in the cap over one year because it is considered part of his benefits for playing for the Tigers and the Tigers never included it in 2016 when the deal was arranged.
Reported by who because that was not said by either Weeks or Mr Greenburg at the original press conference..mearly the NRL where never informed or approval sought for the after footy deal ..hence the breach order...
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by cochise » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 6:26 pm

Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 6:12 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 5:52 pm
Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 5:46 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 4:45 pm


It should have been included in 2016, so not sure what your point is.
Well Greenburg said the total of Farah's ambasadors role over 4 years after Footy totalled 680k the amount of the Cap fine to come out of 2019 cap...hence why i asked..nothing to do with 2016...
It has been reported that he has been offered a role over 4 years totaling $680K, it is included in the cap over one year because it is considered part of his benefits for playing for the Tigers and the Tigers never included it in 2016 when the deal was arranged.
Reported by who because that was not said by either Weeks or Mr Greenburg at the original press conference..mearly the NRL where never informed or approval sought for the after footy deal ..hence the breach order...
Only going on memory but I thought they said the total amount of the deal will be included in the 2019 cap

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Post by formerguest » Thu 10 Jan, 2019 11:57 pm

Wasn't this ambassador role reported on the NRL website? If so, regardless of actual direct WT reporting or lack thereof, they had knowledge of the offer, as did the general public.

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Post by cochise » Fri 11 Jan, 2019 12:13 am

formerguest wrote:
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Wasn't this ambassador role reported on the NRL website? If so, regardless of actual direct WT reporting or lack thereof, they had knowledge of the offer, as did the general public.
The rules aren't report it to the media, there is a procedure to follow and for some reason our club didn't do this. Blaming the NRL doesn't absolve the Tigers wrongdoing.

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Post by happy tiger » Fri 11 Jan, 2019 12:23 am

Geo. wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:36 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 3:05 pm
Set play wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:53 pm
cochise wrote:
Thu 10 Jan, 2019 2:43 pm


I'd like to see Pascoe's ban lifted and the fine downgraded but believe if the rules were broken, even accidentallymthen the salary cap deduction needs to stay as a deterrent to other teams.
Yeah i suppose it does have to stay as a deterent to other teams but still think its a bit much as for pascoe if its proven he got us in this mess i would like to see him stay gone as he should of checked everything before signing off on it but its as hard one as he played a major part in turning this club around but seems to of bought it all undone with this mess.
The cap hit is just Farah's role being included in the cap so it is completely appropriate.
Are we paying him 680k a year...not even the PM gets that..nice ambassador's job
Well I hope Paul Momirovski isn't on those sort of $$$$s

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