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Re: More bad behaviour

Post by GNR4LIFE » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:50 am

matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:41 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:06 am
matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 10:55 am
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Touching her thigh? Big difference from the police originally claiming they had CCTV of Bolton grabbing her privates......
Don't know what to think of this case. People will be getting charged every minute for standing next to someone in a queue or on public transport accidently brushing up against someone.
If the police retracted their allegation I am surprised it wasn't thrown out of court. Bolton obviously agreed to plead guilty to the lesser charge. Whole thing seems a bit wishy-washy IMO.
Touching the thigh was considered flirting not so long ago. The world has gone mad.
The leftist feminists have neutered men.

I've had women grab my junk on the dance floor at the Legends night club many moons ago. Where is my justice? Lol.
If you wanted justice, I’m sure you could pursue it. Though, it doesn’t sound like it was a negative experience for you, like it is for most women. It’s not about the action, it’s about how the action is received.
Let's be honest.
It's received by how much money the man has or how high profile he is.
Not the action itself.
Does that mean guys with no money have free reign? I hear the Skaf’s were loaded.


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Post by matchball » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:05 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:50 am
matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:41 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:06 am
matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 10:55 am


Touching the thigh was considered flirting not so long ago. The world has gone mad.
The leftist feminists have neutered men.

I've had women grab my junk on the dance floor at the Legends night club many moons ago. Where is my justice? Lol.
If you wanted justice, I’m sure you could pursue it. Though, it doesn’t sound like it was a negative experience for you, like it is for most women. It’s not about the action, it’s about how the action is received.
Let's be honest.
It's received by how much money the man has or how high profile he is.
Not the action itself.
Does that mean guys with no money have free reign? I hear the Skaf’s were loaded.
You're missing the point and over dramatising as usual.
Rape is one thing but flirting with a girl is another, don't mix the two as they aren't even related.

Women know what they are doing, had this been a regular guy touching her thigh she would have told him to get lost creep and that would have been the end of it as there would have been nothing gained for her.
You don't hear about her flirting or lead up that gave him the confidence to touch her, social cues and all that.

The verdict proves it was nothing more than a touchy flirt but the guy gets his life turned upside down because he is in the public eye and has some money.

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Post by GNR4LIFE » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:09 pm

matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:05 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:50 am
matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:41 am
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:06 am

If you wanted justice, I’m sure you could pursue it. Though, it doesn’t sound like it was a negative experience for you, like it is for most women. It’s not about the action, it’s about how the action is received.
Let's be honest.
It's received by how much money the man has or how high profile he is.
Not the action itself.
Does that mean guys with no money have free reign? I hear the Skaf’s were loaded.
You're missing the point and over dramatising as usual.
Rape is one thing but flirting with a girl is another, don't mix the two as they aren't even related.

Women know what they are doing, had this been a regular guy touching her thigh she would have told him to get lost creep and that would have been the end of it as there would have been nothing gained for her.
You don't hear about her flirting or lead up that gave him the confidence to touch her, social cues and all that.

The verdict proves it was nothing more than a touchy flirt but the guy gets his life turned upside down because he is in the public eye and has some money.
Who are you to judge what’s too far and what isn’t it?

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Post by underdog » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:24 pm

It can't be that bad - or if it is, MCK isn't outwardly showing it.

I follow him on Instagram, and he's just business as usual - no shutting down and invisibling on social media - just the usual golf, family and video games with the mates.
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Post by matchball » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:49 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:09 pm
matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:05 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:50 am
matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:41 am

Let's be honest.
It's received by how much money the man has or how high profile he is.
Not the action itself.
Does that mean guys with no money have free reign? I hear the Skaf’s were loaded.
You're missing the point and over dramatising as usual.
Rape is one thing but flirting with a girl is another, don't mix the two as they aren't even related.

Women know what they are doing, had this been a regular guy touching her thigh she would have told him to get lost creep and that would have been the end of it as there would have been nothing gained for her.
You don't hear about her flirting or lead up that gave him the confidence to touch her, social cues and all that.

The verdict proves it was nothing more than a touchy flirt but the guy gets his life turned upside down because he is in the public eye and has some money.
Who are you to judge what’s too far and what isn’t it?
I'm judging as a man. A man that has flirted with women all my life. You feed off the feedback a woman gives whether to make a move or not.
You're a man right? If so, you should understand the basics of human interaction between man and a woman.
It's become a toxic environment for men. I'm glad I'm not out there trying to pick up women anymore. You need a contract just to attempt to kiss a girl it seems.

In the end the judge seems to agree. Sexual assault wasn't committed and q man's reputation is in tatters for seemingly a harmless show of affection.


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Post by DonnyBrasco » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 2:42 pm

underdog wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:24 pm
It can't be that bad - or if it is, MCK isn't outwardly showing it.

I follow him on Instagram, and he's just business as usual - no shutting down and invisibling on social media - just the usual golf, family and video games with the mates.
Sounds like a top bloke who just allegedly gets arrested for punching strangers...
Anyhow, it’s all gods plan.
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Post by happy tiger » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 4:16 pm

matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:49 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:09 pm
matchball wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 12:05 pm
GNR4LIFE wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:50 am

Does that mean guys with no money have free reign? I hear the Skaf’s were loaded.
You're missing the point and over dramatising as usual.
Rape is one thing but flirting with a girl is another, don't mix the two as they aren't even related.

Women know what they are doing, had this been a regular guy touching her thigh she would have told him to get lost creep and that would have been the end of it as there would have been nothing gained for her.
You don't hear about her flirting or lead up that gave him the confidence to touch her, social cues and all that.

The verdict proves it was nothing more than a touchy flirt but the guy gets his life turned upside down because he is in the public eye and has some money.
Who are you to judge what’s too far and what isn’t it?
I'm judging as a man. A man that has flirted with women all my life. You feed off the feedback a woman gives whether to make a move or not.
You're a man right? If so, you should understand the basics of human interaction between man and a woman.
It's become a toxic environment for men. I'm glad I'm not out there trying to pick up women anymore. You need a contract just to attempt to kiss a girl it seems.

In the end the judge seems to agree. Sexual assault wasn't committed and q man's reputation is in tatters for seemingly a harmless show of affection.
I'm going to agree with Matchball

It's very hard when I have staff who have lost family members /broken up with partners .......you want to hug them and make it OK but as a male you just can't in this day and age

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Post by Telltails » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 5:05 pm

Yes we live in very different times.
Hands off - especially with a stanger - or be prepared for the possible consequences.
Having lived through a time where some blokes I know thought that touching any girl that walked passed them in a crowd was fair game, and laughed about it while pretending it wasnt them, it may seem over the top. But you would have to speak to women of that time to understand how they felt about it, to get a balanced view of where we are at now.

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Post by sideline eye » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 10:14 pm

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Post by krayola » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 10:59 pm

Telltails wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 5:05 pm
Yes we live in very different times.
Hands off - especially with a stanger - or be prepared for the possible consequences.
Having lived through a time where some blokes I know thought that touching any girl that walked passed them in a crowd was fair game, and laughed about it while pretending it wasnt them, it may seem over the top. But you would have to speak to women of that time to understand how they felt about it, to get a balanced view of where we are at now.
People are acting like ALL women dislike it now though. Surely there were women in the past, as there are now, who do and don’t mind it. The consequences seem more severe for unwanted behaviour these days but let’s not pretend that no one is comfortable with physical touch.
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Post by happy tiger » Tue 08 Jan, 2019 11:16 pm

krayola wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 10:59 pm
Telltails wrote:
Tue 08 Jan, 2019 5:05 pm
Yes we live in very different times.
Hands off - especially with a stanger - or be prepared for the possible consequences.
Having lived through a time where some blokes I know thought that touching any girl that walked passed them in a crowd was fair game, and laughed about it while pretending it wasnt them, it may seem over the top. But you would have to speak to women of that time to understand how they felt about it, to get a balanced view of where we are at now.
People are acting like ALL women dislike it now though. Surely there were women in the past, as there are now, who do and don’t mind it. The consequences seem more severe for unwanted behaviour these days but let’s not pretend that no one is comfortable with physical touch.
I could be wrong , but there probably isn't a bloke out there who hasn't misread a girls signals

Especially if you could dance the Lambada and she just wanted to dance saucily .......

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Post by Cosimo_Zaretti » Wed 09 Jan, 2019 12:03 am

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I think Momirovski is THE centre - never mind back row.

Chee Kam needs to go - do not need idiots, Sponsors and idiots do not mix well.
If Momiroveki reolaced Masters, Masters would go well in Chee Kam's position, because he can play backs or forwards, and is legitimately hard to tackle. Does leave us looking for a new goalkicker.

Would you have Momirovski replace Fonua?

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Post by Seantice » Wed 09 Jan, 2019 12:39 am

Cosimo_Zaretti wrote:
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Russell wrote:
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I think Momirovski is THE centre - never mind back row.

Chee Kam needs to go - do not need idiots, Sponsors and idiots do not mix well.
If Momiroveki reolaced Masters, Masters would go well in Chee Kam's position, because he can play backs or forwards, and is legitimately hard to tackle. Does leave us looking for a new goalkicker.

Would you have Momirovski replace Fonua?
Fonua shouldn't even be in the side let alone a centre.

Momiroski on one edge with Marsters on the other. Though eventually I'd like marsters to move too the backrow. Be hard with Matters on and Garner looking the goods..

We are still a quality centre and winger short.

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Post by Geo. » Wed 09 Jan, 2019 5:52 am

Yeah lets move the 3rd ranked Centre currently to the back row..
Wests Tigers don't need a Coach.. The playing group has taken over..
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Post by GNR4LIFE » Wed 09 Jan, 2019 6:15 am

I’d be in no rush to move Marsters out of the centres.

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Post by weststigerman » Wed 09 Jan, 2019 8:33 am

Marsters is the best centre we have currently and probably one of the better centres we've ever had.

I'd only consider moving him if he got too big and started getting outpaced out wide like what happened with Lawrence.

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Wed 09 Jan, 2019 8:37 am

Not sure moving our only established centre into the second row is going to do anything but cause dramas.
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Post by Russell » Wed 09 Jan, 2019 9:02 am

Cosimo_Zaretti wrote:
Wed 09 Jan, 2019 12:03 am
Russell wrote:
Thu 03 Jan, 2019 3:22 pm
I think Momirovski is THE centre - never mind back row.

Chee Kam needs to go - do not need idiots, Sponsors and idiots do not mix well.
If Momiroveki reolaced Masters, Masters would go well in Chee Kam's position, because he can play backs or forwards, and is legitimately hard to tackle. Does leave us looking for a new goalkicker.

Would you have Momirovski replace Fonua?
Absolutely - Momirovski as the other centre.

Fonua to ISP. (another Utai with half as much talent),

Masters is the only other centre - an International centre at that. Why would you move him anywhere?

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