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Re: Mathew Lodge

Post by Tiger Watto » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:44 pm

hammertime wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:18 pm
I think there's a massive difference between two blokes having a stoush late at night around the pubs, which involved a fist fight that went way too far. To lodges scenario of throwing out insane death threats, breaking and entering and attacking random people in their home. Including women and kids.
lol... Are you trying to say if the pussy Packer beat up ran inside his home and locked the doors, Packer wouldnt of tried to knock his door down???

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Post by innsaneink » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:09 pm

Tiger Watto wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:44 pm
hammertime wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:18 pm
I think there's a massive difference between two blokes having a stoush late at night around the pubs, which involved a fist fight that went way too far. To lodges scenario of throwing out insane death threats, breaking and entering and attacking random people in their home. Including women and kids.
lol... Are you trying to say if the pussy Packer beat up ran inside his home and locked the doors, Packer wouldnt of tried to knock his door down???

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Post by Tiger Watto » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:17 pm

innsaneink wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:09 pm
Tiger Watto wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:44 pm
hammertime wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:18 pm
I think there's a massive difference between two blokes having a stoush late at night around the pubs, which involved a fist fight that went way too far. To lodges scenario of throwing out insane death threats, breaking and entering and attacking random people in their home. Including women and kids.
lol... Are you trying to say if the pussy Packer beat up ran inside his home and locked the doors, Packer wouldnt of tried to knock his door down???

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not while the hypocrites are spruiking there moral high ground.
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Post by Telltails » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:40 pm

Spud Murphy wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:38 pm
Telltails wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:22 pm
If Packer and Lodge had no ability they wouldnt have got a second chance at any club and would not fit in "the culture"
However all can be overlooked/ forgiven for someone who is percieved to be talented.
Until the NRL/ clubs prevent players with criminal offences from playing the game, regardless of talent, dont know how you can make allowances for one over the other
The defence of Packer is largely related to him wearing our colours- bet there are plenty of other supporters from other clubs who are not so understanding or forgiving.
Nothing to do with him wearing our colours as far as I'm concerned. I can just see the difference between the crimes committed and actions and attitudes of both players since then.
Fair enough Spud.
To me the crimes maybe different but hard to measure the severity between them, without being the victim.
Packer seems to have turned his life around because of his second chance in the NRL which allowed him to earn an excellent wage and fund a degree - not an opportunity that presents itself to many excons.
Lodge may do the same. Not sure the NRL can stop one club from registering a player with a criminal offence if they allowed another back in. Its a real can of worms as far as I can see
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Post by GNR4LIFE » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:45 pm

Telltails wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:22 pm
If Packer and Lodge had no ability they wouldnt have got a second chance at any club and would not fit in "the culture"
However all can be overlooked/ forgiven for someone who is percieved to be talented.
Until the NRL/ clubs prevent players with criminal offences from playing the game, regardless of talent, dont know how you can make allowances for one over the other
The defence of Packer is largely related to him wearing our colours- bet there are plenty of other supporters from other clubs who are not so understanding or forgiving.
Absolutely. The ironic thing is that most were against him when he was linked to us, but predictably, people were always going to mellow towards him. I defend him, but I defended him before he signed, so I don’t count :D


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Post by Telltails » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:53 pm

GNR4LIFE wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:45 pm
Telltails wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:22 pm
If Packer and Lodge had no ability they wouldnt have got a second chance at any club and would not fit in "the culture"
However all can be overlooked/ forgiven for someone who is percieved to be talented.
Until the NRL/ clubs prevent players with criminal offences from playing the game, regardless of talent, dont know how you can make allowances for one over the other
The defence of Packer is largely related to him wearing our colours- bet there are plenty of other supporters from other clubs who are not so understanding or forgiving.
Absolutely. The ironic thing is that most were against him when he was linked to us, but predictably, people were always going to mellow towards him. I defend him, but I defended him before he signed, so I don’t count :D
Yep - and I admit I wasnt so keen - but it is hard to argue that the NRL has not been significant in him getting back on track and that has to be a good thing.
It would be great if all offenders could turn it around like he has.

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Post by happy tiger » Sat 03 Mar, 2018 11:27 pm

Tiger Watto wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:17 pm
innsaneink wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 10:09 pm
Tiger Watto wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:44 pm
hammertime wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 9:18 pm
I think there's a massive difference between two blokes having a stoush late at night around the pubs, which involved a fist fight that went way too far. To lodges scenario of throwing out insane death threats, breaking and entering and attacking random people in their home. Including women and kids.
lol... Are you trying to say if the pussy Packer beat up ran inside his home and locked the doors, Packer wouldnt of tried to knock his door down???

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Lol
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not while the hypocrites are spruiking there moral high ground.
You can't have it both ways , we get rid of the no DH policy (which you agree with ) and then claim we are spruiking the moral high ground

If Lodge can get through 12 months of NRL without him dragging Benny out the back of Red Hill , running through Cooparoo and ripping the place apart some might cut him some slack

I'd love to see Lodge interviewed in regards to everything by someone , I hear he is hurried away from cameras at Red Hill in case he has another meltdown

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Post by Byron Bay Fan » Sun 04 Mar, 2018 12:01 am

I think that legal action is being launched against him in Oz - could be for money. Over the years I hope he can and is forced to pay the fine
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Post by Demps » Sun 04 Mar, 2018 6:53 am

Imagine a front row paring of;
Nathan Brown & Matt Lodge though.


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Post by Tiger Watto » Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:29 am

Byron Bay Fan wrote:
Sun 04 Mar, 2018 12:01 am
I think that legal action is being launched against him in Oz - could be for money. Over the years I hope he can and is forced to pay the fine
The NRL have been involved in helping Lodge find a settlement, as they want to see some sort of contribution to it.
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Post by TrueTiger » Sun 04 Mar, 2018 9:21 am

I have no sympathy for Lodge or anyone else who gets themselves in severe trouble from drinking grog,particularly these days with so much help available to get you on the right track,but,I think the issue is that they are high profile players in a high profile sport that excuses are made for them so they can play the game because of their ability and talent...
However,in Packers defense he has at least made a concerted effort to turn his life around and has shown remorse for his injustices..Like him or not,credit must be given for his facing up to his mistakes and addressing them..
Lodge on the other hand hasn't shown remorse and hasn't proven he can turn his life around yet...this is entirely up to him..
As far a criminal acts go and people who have been in gaol shouldn't play nrl,could be viewed as being discriminating,do the crime do the time scenario...
It reminds me of the time back in the 80s when our local football team had 2 players that were in a nearby gaol play for them,they were allowed out on day leave to play...both were very capable players...they both fully abided by the rules of their day pass and you couldn't have gotten 2 better blokes as people,they to were paying the penalty for their injustices and were redeeming themselves..
In all,not everybody is the same,some people better themselves and some keep re-offending,where do we draw the line...

People must be held accountable for their own actions in what ever form that is...it is up to them to chose their path in life....
I hope Lodge does become a better person ....its up to him..
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Post by Fade To Black » Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:03 pm

Demps wrote:
Sun 04 Mar, 2018 6:53 am
Imagine a front row paring of;
Nathan Brown & Matt Lodge though.


Tough.
Tough in what way though? Both have shown that they couldn't fight their way out of a pavlova. I'd prefer a front row of RCG and Josh McGuire. Or Packer and Matulino!

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Post by GoldXR50Leroy » Sun 04 Mar, 2018 7:25 pm

Even after Lodge committed his atrocities in NY he then went on to assault his Girlfriend, something that the NRL & the Broncos were aware of and gave the green light to, Gees Old Uncle Wayne the Love Rat has some pull at the Ivory Towers that run the game.

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Post by Marshall_magic » Sun 04 Mar, 2018 8:16 pm

I believe everyone deserves a second chance, however the Lodge circumstances are a little different for me. The NRL should make a part of his registration to submit a plan of paying what he owes to this family. By making it a non-issue he will not be made to feel accountable for his actions and will probably play up again.

To compare to Packer, he did his time, and (believe it or not) may have learnt something from the experience. If Packer messes up again with us then I would be disappointed if the club did not release him.

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Post by NT Tiger » Tue 06 Mar, 2018 8:15 am

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Post by strrretch » Tue 06 Mar, 2018 11:16 am

How unusual, A young bloke with alcohol and relationship problems . Even more strange....holier than thou hypocrites baying for blood. A "family" trying to gouge monetary "compensation" . Hope the guy gets on well with his life and the crap blows up in the face of his persecutors

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Post by Bee-Em » Tue 06 Mar, 2018 11:27 am

Yes seen the story and footage on ABC last night, very ugly drunken thuggery at its best. We all do stupid things when we are full of grog, but locking himself in a room with a woman and child scaring the life out of them is ridiculous, the fellow should be ashamed.

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Post by supercoach » Tue 06 Mar, 2018 11:44 am

Tiger Watto wrote:
Sat 03 Mar, 2018 7:33 am
This campaign against Lodge is disgraceful. There is no difference between the Matt Lodge incident and Russell Packer's. Both have committed horrendous crimes, both have faced punishment, and both have been given another chance by the NRL. If you are cheering for Packer next Saturday, you should also accept Matt Lodge back into the game of Rugby League.

I hope he rips in, behaves and has a great year!
No comparison at all. One served a full sentence, demonstrated remorse to the victim, took ownership of his crime and fulfilled everything the court asked him to do.

Mr Lodge I am afraid has shown no remorse to the victims and has not followed the court order.
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