The No 1. in round 1

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Re: The No 1. in round 1

Post by Tigersmurf » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 2:48 pm

Helmesy, Sheens let BMM debut in a semi final. He loves blooding talent and if he thinks the kid is good enough then he will debut in round 1. But he has to prove it in a couple of trials yet.


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Post by tigerbenji » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 3:19 pm

Here goes Tedesco,Ryan, Lawrence, Ayshford, Reddy, with Brown on the bench.

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Post by Tiger Watto » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 3:30 pm

No need to carry Brown on the bench with Moltzen being able to move from the halves to anywhere in the backline...

If his trial form is good, I'd say Miller/Chisholm will be on the bench as it offers us another genuine attacking option at 14!
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Post by helmesy » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 3:31 pm

willow wrote:Well Helmesy, if Tedesco goes ok in the trials, and Sheens selects him for round 1, I won't be complaining. He's 5'11, 89kg, so he's not massive, but he's not so small that he's going to be thrown around all the time. He has the best support play at fullback in the club and I also believe he has the best ballplaying skills, I think he has a clear edge over Brown and Reddy in this regard.

I haven't seen Linc Port play yet, I sat a couple of seats away from him at Concord the other week, but he's the smallest of the fullback candidates and I daresay we'll see him spend the majority of the year playing for BRET.
Will be good to see which way Tim goes with the selection, one things for sure we're going to find out pretty soon! :)

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 3:39 pm

Tiger Watto wrote:No need to carry Brown on the bench with Moltzen being able to move from the halves to anywhere in the backline...

If his trial form is good, I'd say Miller/Chisholm will be on the bench as it offers us another genuine attacking option at 14!
No need to expect Moltzen to move anywhere in the backline when you have Reddy who can play 1-5 in a pinch and is big enough to run wide in the second row as well...
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Post by Tiger99 » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 4:48 pm

Tedesco will be fullback no matter how bad he goes sheensy is going to stick with him. Lote will not be ready until round 4.
P.s rowdy won't be playing in the trial this Saturday.

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Post by alex » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 4:51 pm

This thread seems to be going under the assumption that Moltzen will be named at 7. I'm still hoping we see Moltzen at 1 with Miller at 7.

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Post by willow » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 4:54 pm

Tiger99 wrote:Tedesco will be fullback no matter how bad he goes sheensy is going to stick with him. Lote will not be ready until round 4.
P.s rowdy won't be playing in the trial this Saturday.
Cheers for the heads up Tiger99.

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Post by tiger91 » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 5:21 pm

So hypertheticly, we will run out an inexperienced, out of form Tedesco, ahead of an experienced, in form and as safe as a bank Brown?

I don't mean to sound anti-Tedesco (I rate the kid highly), but shouldn't the fullback position go to whoever is in form throughout the trials, as it would be for any position on the side.


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Post by tigerlogic » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 5:24 pm

Who's to say tedesco won't be the form fullback in the trials.. Shame bout Lawrence.. Just wish all were fit


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Post by Tiger Watto » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 5:32 pm

tiger91 wrote:So hypertheticly, we will run out an inexperienced, out of form Tedesco, ahead of an experienced, in form and as safe as a bank Brown?

I don't mean to sound anti-Tedesco (I rate the kid highly), but shouldn't the fullback position go to whoever is in form throughout the trials, as it would be for any position on the side.


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How do you know Brown is in form... Has he been playing all Summer???

The last time he played FB for the Tigers was in the Prelim Final in 2010...
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Post by tiger91 » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 5:33 pm

My original post was asking a hyperthetical question in response to a post from Tiger99, stating that Tedesco will be fullback come round 1, in form or not.

If Tedesco is in form throughout the trails, then I'm more than happy for him to run out at fullback come round 1. I just want to see our side run out with the strongest possible team, not giving positions to out of form players.


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Post by willow » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 5:55 pm

tiger91 wrote:My original post was asking a hyperthetical question in response to a post from Tiger99, stating that Tedesco will be fullback come round 1, in form or not.

If Tedesco is in form throughout the trails, then I'm more than happy for him to run out at fullback come round 1. I just want to see our side run out with the strongest possible team, not giving positions to out of form players.


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How do we know Tedesco is out of form? He's killed it at training during the off-season, but a ball has not been kicked in anger yet.

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Post by tigersrule4life » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 5:59 pm

Tedesco or brown for fullback but i want to see tedesco he looks like a massive support player so its good for us cant wait for the season to kick off !!!!

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Post by Fraze23 » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 6:06 pm

Honesty won't lose you a match and brown is as honest as the day is long. Having said that honesty doesn't turn a game on its head either. Flair and attacking prowess does that. Which is what I think Tedesco will bring to the table. We need a game breaker wearing the 1 and given the opportunity I'd rate Tedesco as being able to give us more of an attacking edge from the back than Mitch Brown.

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Post by helmesy » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 6:17 pm

Fraze23 wrote:Honesty won't lose you a match and brown is as honest as the day is long. Having said that honesty doesn't turn a game on its head either. Flair and attacking prowess does that. Which is what I think Tedesco will bring to the table. We need a game breaker wearing the 1 and given the opportunity I'd rate Tedesco as being able to give us more of an attacking edge from the back than Mitch Brown.
Look I don't want to feel like I'm putting Tedesco down and obviously there are heaps of people including the coach and CEO who believe he has a big future.

BUT he has only played a handful of U/20's - how many games have you guys honestly see him play in?

I don't think there's any rush to bring him in - you have to go the safer option of Brown/Reddy to start the season.

Also TigerSmurf yes BMM did make his debut in a semi, I would challenge however that there's much more scope for a young fullback to have a shocker and lose confidence (or a game) than a backrower.

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Post by Cultured Bogan » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 6:34 pm

helmesy wrote:
Fraze23 wrote:Honesty won't lose you a match and brown is as honest as the day is long. Having said that honesty doesn't turn a game on its head either. Flair and attacking prowess does that. Which is what I think Tedesco will bring to the table. We need a game breaker wearing the 1 and given the opportunity I'd rate Tedesco as being able to give us more of an attacking edge from the back than Mitch Brown.
Look I don't want to feel like I'm putting Tedesco down and obviously there are heaps of people including the coach and CEO who believe he has a big future.

BUT he has only played a handful of U/20's - how many games have you guys honestly see him play in?

I don't think there's any rush to bring him in - you have to go the safer option of Brown/Reddy to start the season.

Also TigerSmurf yes BMM did make his debut in a semi, I would challenge however that there's much more scope for a young fullback to have a shocker and lose confidence (or a game) than a backrower.
Think of it this way: at least Sheens is playing a specialist fullback for a change!
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Post by helmesy » Mon 06 Feb, 2012 6:38 pm

Cultured Bogan wrote:
helmesy wrote:
Fraze23 wrote:Honesty won't lose you a match and brown is as honest as the day is long. Having said that honesty doesn't turn a game on its head either. Flair and attacking prowess does that. Which is what I think Tedesco will bring to the table. We need a game breaker wearing the 1 and given the opportunity I'd rate Tedesco as being able to give us more of an attacking edge from the back than Mitch Brown.
Look I don't want to feel like I'm putting Tedesco down and obviously there are heaps of people including the coach and CEO who believe he has a big future.

BUT he has only played a handful of U/20's - how many games have you guys honestly see him play in?

I don't think there's any rush to bring him in - you have to go the safer option of Brown/Reddy to start the season.

Also TigerSmurf yes BMM did make his debut in a semi, I would challenge however that there's much more scope for a young fullback to have a shocker and lose confidence (or a game) than a backrower.
Think of it this way: at least Sheens is playing a specialist fullback for a change!
Ha ha - true! :)

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