tigertragic
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Played well , but not the organising half/voice I think we are missingReally? He had a great game
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Played well , but not the organising half/voice I think we are missingReally? He had a great game
Ok now it makes sense with you correctly naming him John Morris.How quickly you forget,Johny Cronk aka John Morris was a backup hooker from Newie who Sheens claimed would be our "Cooper Cronk" and be a great half for us.The poor bloke was completely unsuited to the position but for 3 years Tim kept on banging the square peg into the round hole hoping it would work.It was destroying Morris as a player and our team at the time.
For me and many others that was the end of the honeymoon for Tim not because he got it wrong but because he was so stubborn and pig headed he would not admit he was wrong and make adjustments.I was pleased for Morris when he finally went to the sharks and played in his correct position and did a decent job.
I will always appreciate 2005 and his years before it but i will never give him plaudits for his many stuffups.This year is looking like one of his worst years because he has learned nothing and still will not admit to his mistakes
Sheens faces exactly the same problems previous coaches have faced but have carried the blame for - the inability of this club to compete against others to recruit/ retain talent - young and experienced.There u go again, the Sheens bashing. Years before it?? 2010&2011 were also good years should of really won in 11. But before 2005?? I think your drinking the cool aid again!
Totally don’t agree on this year so far, last year yes, but that was always a train wreck with the Maguire free fall that was only going one way since he got here.
This year we have won a truck load of stats in games that should of won us a lot more games if it wasn’t for poor halves. I think this year has been ok considering that, mostly because of api. Klemmer and Bateman have also been great. Look with all the injuries to key players we could finish the year of poorly. Sheens was always planning to get a controlling half so brooks can play his natural game as a ball runner. It’s amazing that in 10 years of various lame coaches could not recognise that brooks doesn’t have the ability to control a team/game.
With us stinking it up for so long and the rarity is great controlling halves these days, it’s hardly surprising that we can’t land one!
Look at the flogs they are one win ahead of us with a hundred more points against. With the great Gus gold buying all the best players and coaches in the comp, not doing much better than us. So just stop going from topic to topic bringing up all your hate!
How quickly you forget,Johny Cronk aka John Morris was a backup hooker from Newie who Sheens claimed would be our "Cooper Cronk" and be a great half for us.The poor bloke was completely unsuited to the position but for 3 years Tim kept on banging the square peg into the round hole hoping it would work.It was destroying Morris as a player and our team at the time.
For me and many others that was the end of the honeymoon for Tim not because he got it wrong but because he was so stubborn and pig headed he would not admit he was wrong and make adjustments.I was pleased for Morris when he finally went to the sharks and played in his correct position and did a decent job.
I will always appreciate 2005 and his years before it but i will never give him plaudits for his many stuffups.This year is looking like one of his worst years because he has learned nothing and still will not admit to his mistakes
The fact that he was a poor footballer probably had something to do with itI AM NOT SUGGESTING WE BUY LACHLAN LEWIS but....
Whatever happened to Lachlan Lewis. He stole a soundbar he didn't murder anyone. How has he completely disappeared?
One thing that Madge spoke about also in signing players is captain material as well as ability . Blore and felody were both captains I believe.The trouble with our club was they did not go down the pathways road ten years ago when the slump first started. Instead they kept blowing the cap on average players trying to get instant success.
The NRL has always had a shortage of available talent and when it becomes available it goes to the better teams not the lower teams that’s why the pathways system is our future. Okay we will have talent defect to the better teams like Moses and Teddy but you have to keep producing the talent to fill the gaps, because we can’t attract the talent from outside
Hence why he was sacked by 2 clubs in the super leagueHow quickly you forget,Johny Cronk aka John Morris was a backup hooker from Newie who Sheens claimed would be our "Cooper Cronk" and be a great half for us.The poor bloke was completely unsuited to the position but for 3 years Tim kept on banging the square peg into the round hole hoping it would work.It was destroying Morris as a player and our team at the time.
For me and many others that was the end of the honeymoon for Tim not because he got it wrong but because he was so stubborn and pig headed he would not admit he was wrong and make adjustments.I was pleased for Morris when he finally went to the sharks and played in his correct position and did a decent job.
I will always appreciate 2005 and his years before it but i will never give him plaudits for his many stuffups.This year is looking like one of his worst years because he has learned nothing and still will not admit to his mistakes
Tony Pellow, a 26-year-old who can play fullback, centre and halfbackWhat position does Tony Pellows play?
As just been signed by Cessnock Goannas in the Newcastle competition?
It won’t be long and API Bateman Klemmer etc will be sick of creating great stats that are turned into nothing and will be looking to move on + our youngsters won’t be far behindThere u go again, the Sheens bashing. Years before it?? 2010&2011 were also good years should of really won in 11. But before 2005?? I think your drinking the cool aid again!
Totally don’t agree on this year so far, last year yes, but that was always a train wreck with the Maguire free fall that was only going one way since he got here.
This year we have won a truck load of stats in games that should of won us a lot more games if it wasn’t for poor halves. I think this year has been ok considering that, mostly because of api. Klemmer and Bateman have also been great. Look with all the injuries to key players we could finish the year of poorly. Sheens was always planning to get a controlling half so brooks can play his natural game as a ball runner. It’s amazing that in 10 years of various lame coaches could not recognise that brooks doesn’t have the ability to control a team/game.
With us stinking it up for so long and the rarity is great controlling halves these days, it’s hardly surprising that we can’t land one!
Look at the flogs they are one win ahead of us with a hundred more points against. With the great Gus gold buying all the best players and coaches in the comp, not doing much better than us. So just stop going from topic to topic bringing up all your hate!
Wrong , they know why they are here it was clear to them the club would be investing in their juniors with the help of these guys when they signed on,not trying to buy a premiership like the DogsIt won’t be long and API Bateman Klemmer etc will be sick of creating great stats that are turned into nothing and will be looking to move on + our youngsters won’t be far behind
Shouldn't he have been doing that last year?Don't compare 2023 Tim Sheens to 2005 Tim Sheens.
Compare 2023 Tim Sheens to 2003 Tim Sheens.
That is where we are at in squad development. Clearing out old, sifting through the new.
ExactlyHow quickly you forget,Johny Cronk aka John Morris was a backup hooker from Newie who Sheens claimed would be our "Cooper Cronk" and be a great half for us.The poor bloke was completely unsuited to the position but for 3 years Tim kept on banging the square peg into the round hole hoping it would work.It was destroying Morris as a player and our team at the time.
For me and many others that was the end of the honeymoon for Tim not because he got it wrong but because he was so stubborn and pig headed he would not admit he was wrong and make adjustments.I was pleased for Morris when he finally went to the sharks and played in his correct position and did a decent job.
I will always appreciate 2005 and his years before it but i will never give him plaudits for his many stuffups.This year is looking like one of his worst years because he has learned nothing and still will not admit to his mistakes
To a degree. There were a number of players moved on & added during the course of last season & now though, so in some ways, he was- just not directly.Shouldn't he have been doing that last year?
Tony Pellow, a 26-year-old who can play fullback, centre and halfback
Foran, Cliff Lyons, Jason Smith, Scott Hill, Munster, Lockyer etc.Exactly
And this is why brooks had to go
Because sheens kept playing him as a half back - saying “it doesn’t matter what number 6 or 7”
He keeps justifying that -
Which is why the tigers never succeeded with brooks
He was a running 6
And why sheens only success was when we had an actual 7 - in prince and lui
Every time he has tried to make a 6 into a 7 we have never had success
I don’t know why he doesn’t see this
And for everyone saying 6 and 7 are the same
They aren’t
You need a controlling 7 - every successful team has a loud, controlling, organizing half
it just confuses players otherwise
Why doesn’t Cleary, Hughes, DCE, Hunt, moses etc wear 6? Because they control. They are the 7.
This is tim sheens biggest flaw
And why brooks will probably kill it at manly
And everyone saying he won halfback of the year - was when benji played at 6, but was the actual 7.