Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Kaito]

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Someone mentioned a while ago we may have got Hawkins on a T&T deal anyone heard anymore on that?
Not seen much of him but im guessing he's better back up than Wakeham and Smith.
Be good if we could get some depth in the halves.

 

[Tucker]

Black version of Brooks

 

[ezybro]

So Sezer, Sullivan, Fainu interesting.

 

[Fingers83]

I don't know if any of you have had a chance to listen to this yet, but I am pretty happy with how Benji has handled himself, and some of the responses he has given to some really tough questions.

He was also quick to challenge some moronic questions as well which is something I really like.

Spoke about Bula epitomizing what he wants Wests Tigers to look like in the future, and that it's been his defensive attitude that makes him the player he is.

Put the issues with Scott Fulton to bed, too.

I know a lot of people are jumping off the deep end saying " he doesn't have enough experience" but he has been around the game a long time, he truly 100% backs himself in everything he does in life.

Although it's come early, and even if it does ultimately fail, I like that the club has given Benji this chance. He's clearly a great man manager and as long as he has the right support staff around him (not old guys who are employed on reputation, but young guys who have shown capability in limited time - like John Morris) I think we are going to keep improving.

Marshall: An exciting challenge

Wests Tigers Assistant Coach Benji Marshall chats to media ahead of Saturday's Round 25 match against the Dolphins at CommBank Stadium.

www.weststigers.com.au

 

[gregjm87]

What I found beyond belief about that - is the team doesn’t do video on the opposition…

That’s on the coaches and our culture…

I don't think there is anything in the comment that suggests we don't do video work.
The original comment I believe (and relying on other posts here) was along the lines of "I haven't seen much of the Dolphins as they play as the same time as us".
This is a fair comment and the blow up following it without any additional detail is way over the top.

First of all, what is much? None of us know. It could range from he has seen zero Dolphins games, to he's only watched all their games once compared to watching other teams games multiple times.

The way i would interpret the comment is he watches most games most weekends, just not the games played the same day as ours. My reasoning being there is no need to add the bit playing at the same time. This seems a reasonable consumption of viewing, probably more than the average player. Additionally, how much do we all believe a player should be watching? Is it different for different players/positions/personalities?

Then I would assume that the team do the typical video sessions. This is the first game against the Dolphins. First time doing video sessions on them. So compared to all other teams we've versed, particularly those we've versed twice, he would not have watched 'much'.

But I know as little as the rest of the forum in regards to how much footy Brooks, or any other player, watches. I just don't get the blow up over a simple comment. Sure, it may be insightful, it may also mean not a lot.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I'm not sure if this has already been posted but if not it makes interesting reading.

MSN

 

[Camel2281]

Brooks' whole career was summed up in that interview when he said he "Hasn't seen much of the Dolphins because they played at the same time as us".

Just take a minute to digest that.

A professional on $1 mil a year hasn't done homework on the opposition.

It's beyond belief.

Probably points to his lack of development over his career. He's a bare minimum for his paycheck guy. Never staying back doing extras like you hear of DCE and Cleary doing, working on different kicks etc

 

[Tiger-ferret]

I'm not sure if this has already been posted but if not it makes interesting reading.

MSN

Lol. There’s been some brief periods when there seems to be no leaks. They coincide when benji is getting his own way.

 

[Camel2281]

You hear about how much video that Nathan Cleary does in preparation for games and in pre season and when he is rehabing from injury. So did Cooper Cronk (still does even though he is not playing). Brooks clearly not that type of halfback and perhaps relies on the coaching staff to do that homework for him and give instruction. Maybe he just doesn't see the game like the best halves who are thinking 3 plays ahead and can break down an opposition. Adds to the belief he is best used as a running 5/8 who can pop up, play what he sees, follow a ball carrier in support. Unfortunately we wanted him to be something he just aint, and this statement in the interview shows why. He will probably go alright at Manly with Cherry Evans pulling the strings. I hope he does. It must suck being the whipping boy each week for 200+ games, whether it's deserved or not.

Mate Brooks had people flicked from the club for over calling him etc and constantly wanted 'the keys' to the team. He wanted that to demand more coin, now he has left for more money and changes his tune. He's a grub

 

[Camel2281]

That’s up there with the all time worst takes Demps. Brooks is a far better player than Wakeham will ever be, like him or not.

Yeah Brooks is a better player than Wakeham, but I feel that's 99% due to Brooks having some pace and Wakeham being slower than Klemmer.

They both cannot pass, are dumb, and have poor kicking ganes

 

[hammertime]

I don't know if any of you have had a chance to listen to this yet, but I am pretty happy with how Benji has handled himself, and some of the responses he has given to some really tough questions.

He was also quick to challenge some moronic questions as well which is something I really like.

Spoke about Bula epitomizing what he wants Wests Tigers to look like in the future, and that it's been his defensive attitude that makes him the player he is.

Put the issues with Scott Fulton to bed, too.

I know a lot of people are jumping off the deep end saying " he doesn't have enough experience" but he has been around the game a long time, he truly 100% backs himself in everything he does in life.

Although it's come early, and even if it does ultimately fail, I like that the club has given Benji this chance. He's clearly a great man manager and as long as he has the right support staff around him (not old guys who are employed on reputation, but young guys who have shown capability in limited time - like John Morris) I think we are going to keep improving.

Marshall: An exciting challenge

Wests Tigers Assistant Coach Benji Marshall chats to media ahead of Saturday's Round 25 match against the Dolphins at CommBank Stadium.

www.weststigers.com.au

Loved how he set the tone with the journos early. No going to take their BS.

 

[Lauren]

Not to be a downer but PR is only a small fraction of Benji's responsibilities.
Please know I'm hoping for the best for him, but he is likely seen as a pushover (due to the club) as it was revealed on the forum he almost greenlit signing Josh Schuster for a mil (allegedly) - until Sheens intervened.
So while I like it (his latest interview) too, unfortunately he's now in bed with a number of player managers and with that comes the likelihood they'll run to the media to gain the upper hand and pressure him/the club, at various stages (with contract negotiations etc.,) of his coaching tenure.

🤞🤞🤞 though.

Edit: my main point is most noise comes from player managers and therefore I hope the club do everything to protect him.

 

[Kaito]

Black version of Brooks

Tucker you can't do that lmao

 

[Kaito]

Jason Ryles new wallabies coach

 

[Fingers83]

Not to be a downer but PR is only a small fraction of Benji's responsibilities.
Please know I'm hoping for the best for him, but he is likely seen as a pushover (due to the club) as it was revealed on the forum he almost greenlit signing Josh Schuster for a mil (allegedly) - until Sheens intervened.
So while I like it (his latest interview) too, unfortunately he's now in bed with a number of player managers and with that comes the likelihood they'll run to the media to gain the upper hand and pressure him/the club, at various stages (with contract negotiations etc.,) of his coaching tenure.

🤞🤞🤞 though

Great point Lauren. I think that every coach will be challenged by this particular issue during their careers. It’s how they handle it early on that will set the tone.

If he starts to win a few games that will also determine the bargaining power he and the club have with the sewer rats

 

[loklok]

Brooks about to be ruled out due to a calf injury are the reports. Could have seen the last of him in a Tigers jersey.

Good

 

[Flippedy]

Loved how he set the tone with the journos early. No going to take their BS.

Yes I think Benji’s time in the media has put him in good stead to not take any crap from so called journalists. He knows what they’re like.

 

[Lestronge]

I don't know if any of you have had a chance to listen to this yet, but I am pretty happy with how Benji has handled himself, and some of the responses he has given to some really tough questions.

He was also quick to challenge some moronic questions as well which is something I really like.

Spoke about Bula epitomizing what he wants Wests Tigers to look like in the future, and that it's been his defensive attitude that makes him the player he is.

Put the issues with Scott Fulton to bed, too.

I know a lot of people are jumping off the deep end saying " he doesn't have enough experience" but he has been around the game a long time, he truly 100% backs himself in everything he does in life.

Although it's come early, and even if it does ultimately fail, I like that the club has given Benji this chance. He's clearly a great man manager and as long as he has the right support staff around him (not old guys who are employed on reputation, but young guys who have shown capability in limited time - like John Morris) I think we are going to keep improving.

Marshall: An exciting challenge

Wests Tigers Assistant Coach Benji Marshall chats to media ahead of Saturday's Round 25 match against the Dolphins at CommBank Stadium.

www.weststigers.com.au

Who’s the dude next to him he treated with absolute contempt . That was funny . Basically smashed him for loaded questions / railroad question . That seemed like history there ! Anyone know who he was ?

 

[Lestronge]

Yeah Brooks is a better player than Wakeham, but I feel that's 99% due to Brooks having some pace and Wakeham being slower than Klemmer.

They both cannot pass, are dumb, and have poor kicking ganes

??? That’s like saying I’m a better footy player than Benji Marshall . Except he’s faster , more agile , better passer , better at reading the game . But I’m still as good …… lol huh ?