Starford To’a #253

[TheDaBoss]

Idc who goes in centres as long as they can defend......

Im a fan of gildart but will reserve judgement until after trials

 

[barra]

Will be interesting to see who they trot out for centre position in the trials. Then we'll have an idea what's going to happen. I don't think moving Ken would be wise, just let him do his thing that he's already good at.

 

[earl]

I don’t think moving Ken would be wise, just let him do his thing that he’s already good at.

Ken and Nofo should be locked into the wing positions. Lots of options in the centres. Hopefully 2 of them prove themselves to be quality NRL level centres.

 

[Kaito]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

 

[batboy]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

 

[barra]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Exactly, plus To'a and Jet.
I have a feeling they will back experience as much as they can to start with.

 

[TigerVinnie]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

 

[batboy]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....

 

[Tigerwould]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....

The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

 

[Cobarcats]

With AJ out injured To’a is firming more than ever now for a centre gig.
I think he’s a right side player, Kepaoa is left or was. If To’a plays left he’ll be with Gildart and Ken, could be absolutely bloody brilliant or an absolute disaster - how’s that for hedging bets 🙂
That leaves Roberts, AD and Noffa on the right, sound alright?

 

[clontarfkid]

We have a truckload of "prospects"to play in the centres,but no-one actually proven.
Gildart is a current international,so youve gotta think hes a stand out for selection...but at 85 kgs its a real question mark whether he can make it in the NRL..and whether he has the durability to survive most of the season.
So long as hes there the first half dozen rounds when the troops start to return.
Hes quite critical tbh
JTJ is proven...or was...so hes the default option at centre for round one.One of the young guns has to stand up in the trials and take it off him..and I hope someone does!!

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Blore is unproven. He’s not quite as overrated as Laurie, but he’s not far behind. All there is for Blore atm is hope,

 

[batboy]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Blore is unproven. He’s not quite as overrated as Laurie, but he’s not far behind. All there is for Blore atm is hope,

Yeah...
The Hype on our young fellas is on overdrive atm...

 

[TieDye]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Blore is unproven. He’s not quite as overrated as Laurie, but he’s not far behind. All there is for Blore atm is hope,

Yeah...
The Hype on our young fellas is on overdrive atm...

Surprised?

 

[earl]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Blore is unproven. He’s not quite as overrated as Laurie, but he’s not far behind. All there is for Blore atm is hope,

Yeah...
The Hype on our young fellas is on overdrive atm...

Surprised?

Not at all. At this stage of the season Hastings is Andrew Johns upgraded and Gildart is Steve Renouf but quicker and better balanced.

 

[batboy]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Mate, I don't care how good he is - He's not going to teach himself (And a rookie centre) how to deal with minute to minute NRL attack and Defence against quality sides... He's just not!!

I've never seen anything like it... The WT's for the last however long just think you put all these talented young blokes in a side and they'll be a top 8 NRL Side... It doesn't work like that - NEVER HAS... EVER!!

Kids in key positions need to be surrounded with Quality and Experience - Young centres need to play beside a great Back Rower or a great Winger to teach them how to play the game, where to be, when to go or not go...
Our recent history has proven how all the best kids won't make the best team - won't even make a better than 50% team...

We should have thrown the earth at the Morris boys, They'd have given us some miles on both sides...

Also, The best kids aren't always the best learners.... They're not gonna listen to a bloke who's played 10 more games than them. They might listen to a representative player who's played 200 games more than them

 

[Scare]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Mate, I don't care how good he is - He's not going to teach himself (And a rookie centre) how to deal with minute to minute NRL attack and Defence against quality sides... He's just not!!

I've never seen anything like it... The WT's for the last however long just think you put all these talented young blokes in a side and they'll be a top 8 NRL Side... It doesn't work like that - NEVER HAS... EVER!!

Kids in key positions need to be surrounded with Quality and Experience - Young centres need to play beside a great Back Rower or a great Winger to teach them how to play the game, where to be, when to go or not go...
Our recent history has proven how all the best kids won't make the best team - won't even make a better than 50% team...

We should have thrown the earth at the Morris boys, They'd have given us some miles on both sides...

Also, The best kids aren't always the best learners.... They're not gonna listen to a bloke who's played 10 more games than them. They might listen to a representative player who's played 200 games more than them

Panthers went ok with some young boys

 

[batboy]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Mate, I don't care how good he is - He's not going to teach himself (And a rookie centre) how to deal with minute to minute NRL attack and Defence against quality sides... He's just not!!

I've never seen anything like it... The WT's for the last however long just think you put all these talented young blokes in a side and they'll be a top 8 NRL Side... It doesn't work like that - NEVER HAS... EVER!!

Kids in key positions need to be surrounded with Quality and Experience - Young centres need to play beside a great Back Rower or a great Winger to teach them how to play the game, where to be, when to go or not go...
Our recent history has proven how all the best kids won't make the best team - won't even make a better than 50% team...

We should have thrown the earth at the Morris boys, They'd have given us some miles on both sides...

Also, The best kids aren't always the best learners.... They're not gonna listen to a bloke who's played 10 more games than them. They might listen to a representative player who's played 200 games more than them

Panthers went ok with some young boys

You seem to be overlooking the fact that from 6-13 are actual representative players...
(Bar Leota - Who would be a rep player if there were rep games the last 2 years)

Put Yeo at lock for us playing both sides as he does at Penrith and you have exactly what I've said.

 

[rustycage]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....

Careful giving Garner any sort of positive recognition around here. You'll be tarred and feathered.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Gildart, Kei, Pauga, Hoffman, Tupou all centres with AJ & Talau injured. Trial & pick the best performers, it's really that simple.

Of course it is....
I could save the hassle and put my hand up to play centre as well... For free!!

3 of your options have already shown they're not NRL quality, With the other 2 unknown...
It may be simple to pick the "Best" But the Best may be no where near good enough, And what's back up if we get 1 or 2 more injuries?

I have to agree with this, even if we assume Gildart does well, our next most experienced is Roberts and god help us if he's our fulltime centre.

Hoping we find a gem in Tupou or Toá, quietly confident they may be able to do a job but NRL experience is definitely lacking in the 3/4

Mate,
If our back rowers were Luke Lewis and Gareth Ellis, I'd have no problem at all with Tupou, Toa, Even the Jet would go well.... But you just can't have half mast Back Rowers and Half Mast centres playing together....
Which is all we've had - for the better part of a decade, Which is mostly the problems with our halves and wingers... Halves are isolated because Back Rowers and Centres are no threat (In attack or defence) and wingers are posted because there's nothing in between them and mid field...
Put some brains / quality in these 2 positions both sides of the field and we improve 50%

I feel Garner has some upside in this area, But he's not a champion or a leader - more a follower.... Get a good centre on his side (Justin Olam, Joey Manu) and that's one side fixed... The other - God knows....


The other side will have Blore. I haven’t seen too much of him playing 80mins but he looks like he can defend pretty well for a young player.

Mate, I don't care how good he is - He's not going to teach himself (And a rookie centre) how to deal with minute to minute NRL attack and Defence against quality sides... He's just not!!

I've never seen anything like it... The WT's for the last however long just think you put all these talented young blokes in a side and they'll be a top 8 NRL Side... It doesn't work like that - NEVER HAS... EVER!!

Kids in key positions need to be surrounded with Quality and Experience - Young centres need to play beside a great Back Rower or a great Winger to teach them how to play the game, where to be, when to go or not go...
Our recent history has proven how all the best kids won't make the best team - won't even make a better than 50% team...

We should have thrown the earth at the Morris boys, They'd have given us some miles on both sides...

Also, The best kids aren't always the best learners.... They're not gonna listen to a bloke who's played 10 more games than them. They might listen to a representative player who's played 200 games more than them

Panthers went ok with some young boys

You seem to be overlooking the fact that from 6-13 are actual representative players...
(Bar Leota - Who would be a rep player if there were rep games the last 2 years)

Put Yeo at lock for us playing both sides as he does at Penrith and you have exactly what I've said.

They went ok because they have a great coaching structure that knows how to build game plans around their strengths & weaknesses whilst continue to develop players from potential into 1st graders.

We have never outside of Sheens and Cleary here had a coaching structure that could do anything close.

Winning = rep honors. Not many players ever get picked from non winning sides year in year out.