LIVE GAME Wests Tigers v Melbourne Storm..

[Tiger5150]

Can we just put that on a loop.

If he had a better bench he could use it better

 

[Swordy]

I'm overseas but just managed to watch the replay. If we play like we did in the first 60 mins consistently., we are easily a 6-10 side.

Both teams were a bit rusty and both were missing key players, not just Melbourne. Some wrong options for both sides in my opinion but I thought some of our defence was top shelf, obviously some not. Once again, refereeing decisions at key moments with key field position well and truly went against us. Some have said you should be able to overcome and whilst that is true, it is well known that certain teams get the rub more often than others. Whether that be because that's how the NRL wants it or whatever.

I saw a much more cohesive team for most of that game. We dnt have superstars, but we did have more heart than previous. Calls for the coaches head are a bit silly and premature to be honest in my opinion. I even heard on the radio before the game, from Boyd Cordner on some radio that came on that "it's got to the point of the season where the coach is under pressure". I mean seriously, the game had not even started, so yet another jumping on the media push.

Keep cool heads. Give it a few weeks and see where we are. But to take one of the best teams in the past 15 years for consistency, and go toe to toe for as long as we did, not a bad effort. Maybe a B-.

 

[TieDye]

The main issue as I see it: Tigers made key mistakes, including unforced errors like a few bad offloads, and Storm made us pay for those mistakes. We were unable to defend our errors.

In reverse, Storm were losing the physical battle and were themselves starting to make mistakes, but Tigers couldn't quite make them pay for it, and Storm were able to hang on for 80 minutes. Storm key players stepped up in key moments.

Tigers need to keep doing everything they did in the 2nd half, for 80 mins. And I really don't care if it's use of the bench or whatever, the players on there need to be able to do it, or we'll never be able to compete with the top teams.

E.g. Kaufusi was asked to play centre for half the match, did so and did a solid job. The young forwards for Storm played reasonably large minutes, all rookies, and did their jobs (not outstandingly, just did what was needed).

Also goal kicking abysmal from both sides.

Storm were depleted going into the match, but that's like saying Roosters are depleted or Penrith are depleted - they are still very good sides and they still have excellent players in key positions.

If we jag one more try and/or Brooks kicks 4/5 instead of 2/5 I think the Tigers get away with the win.

Agreed wholeheartedly with the last two sentences

 

[Tiger5150]

I thought Peachey and Gildart were both good but my expectations were low. I expected a lot more from Hastings.

I was pleasantly surprised with Peachey. His defence was a lot better than I expected and added something in attack. Will be good I think. A footballer

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So you're happy to let 3metre forward passes get let go for tries? You're easily pleased then.

Good sides defend penalties and poor calls from refs. That is the nature of the game, human error. What is certain is our goal line defence is very poor. If this was limited to one game I would not be concerned. We know this is not the case and has been happening for the three previous years.

 

[Tiger5150]

Good sides defend penalties and poor calls from refs. That is the nature of the game, human error. What is certain is our goal line defence is very poor. If this was limited to one game I would not be concerned. We know this is not the case and has been happening for the three previous years.

Im very worried about Gildart on our line. Seems to lack the basics like counting.

 

[tigerbenji]

Someone mentioned last night it was a similar injury to the one Mahoney picked up last year. Could miss a few weeks.

Madge said he should be O.k.

 

[tony soprano]

Jackson not kicking much at all and not doing goal kicks makes me think because of an injury

 

[tony soprano]

Madge said he should be O.k.

Didn't look too confident in his shoulder

 

[twentyforty]

I should have said this before the game but didn’t think the timing was right, it’s not now either 😁
When there was talk about us as a spoon candidate, then naturally we had to draw Storm first up.
It’s huge to get a win first up for a lot of reasons.
Storms round 1 record is helped by never playing a top 8 side.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I should have said this before the game but didn’t think the timing was right, it’s not now either 😁
When there was talk about us as a spoon candidate, then naturally we had to draw Storm first up.
It’s huge to get a win first up for a lot of reasons.
Storms round 1 record is helped by never playing a top 8 side.

Off the top of my head last year in round 1 they beat a side that went on to be grand finalists. More often than not they are featured in a marquee game to start the season.

 

[tigerbenji]

Anyone notice the players who were laughing with the storm players after the game , that’s what gets me . They should be shown that during the week and made to do a 100 laps of concord after training

Yep I was there & saw Lucy laughing, it gives me the shits.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Good sides defend penalties and poor calls from refs. That is the nature of the game, human error. What is certain is our goal line defence is very poor. If this was limited to one game I would not be concerned. We know this is not the case and has been happening for the three previous years.

How can you defend against a blatant forward pass that is the last pass that leads to a try? You can't. So that is 4 or 6 gift points that the team that has copped the dud call has to make up. Different if it's in midfield and there are other opportunities to actually defend against that dud call.
Agree that our defence is hopeless but 3metre forward passes cannot be let go by the officials. What actually is a touchies job? They are utterly useless. Might as well get rid of them altogether.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Yep I was there & saw Lucy laughing, it gives me the shits.

They are all mates. All fawn over each other on social media. Not the game I grew up watching.

 

[tigerbenji]

They were all over him like a rash in the first 10. Shut him down.

Its funny how we see things differently, I thought Hastigs played O.k, especially in the first half.

 

[twentyforty]

Off the top of my head last year in round 1 they beat a side that went on to be grand finalists. More often than not they are featured in a marquee game to start the season.

Ok never s/b rarely. Fair enough, the rabbits in 21, but they finished 6th in 2020. There may have been times when their first up opponents finished top eight in the same year. However, their previous year ladder position gives the impression that it was unexpected. For example 2001 Bulldogs finished 2nd. 11th the previous year. The only genuine top 4 side they’ve had to deal with first up is Manly in 2014.

 

[Swordy]

Off the top of my head last year in round 1 they beat a side that went on to be grand finalists. More often than not they are featured in a marquee game to start the season.

I did see this in a news article through the week. 1st number in brackets is what that team finished the year before, second number is what they finished that year.

Not too many marquee games in that lot. Mostly middle 8 teams and below.

2008 v Warriors (7th) (8th) 2009 v St George (7th) (1st) 2010 v Cronulla (15th)(14th)
2011 v Manly (8th)(2nd) 2012 v Canberra (15th)(6th) 2013 v St George (9th)(14th)
2014 v Manly (4th)(2nd) 2015 v St George (11th)(8th) 2016 v St George (8th)(11th)
2017 v Canterbury (7th)(11th) 2018 v Canterbury (11th)(12th) 2019 v Brisbane (=5)(8th)
2020 v Manly (6th)(13th) 2021 v Souths (6th)(3rd) 2022 v WT (13th)( ??)

 

[Tiger5150]

I did see this in a news article through the week. 1st number in brackets is what that team finished the year before, second number is what they finished that year.

Not too many marquee games in that lot. Mostly middle 8 teams and below.

2008 v Warriors (7th) (8th) 2009 v St George (7th) (1st) 2010 v Cronulla (15th)(14th)
2011 v Manly (8th)(2nd) 2012 v Canberra (15th)(6th) 2013 v St George (9th)(14th)
2014 v Manly (4th)(2nd) 2015 v St George (11th)(8th) 2016 v St George (8th)(11th)
2017 v Canterbury (7th)(11th) 2018 v Canterbury (11th)(12th) 2019 v Brisbane (=5)(8th)
2020 v Manly (6th)(13th) 2021 v Souths (6th)(3rd) 2022 v WT (13th)( ??)

Ok so based on that in those years they played 8 teams that made the 8 the same year and 9 that made the 8 the previous year. More than 50% for both which means they play top 8 teams more often then not?

 

[twentyforty]

I did see this in a news article through the week. 1st number in brackets is what that team finished the year before, second number is what they finished that year.

Not too many marquee games in that lot. Mostly middle 8 teams and below.

2008 v Warriors (7th) (8th) 2009 v St George (7th) (1st) 2010 v Cronulla (15th)(14th)
2011 v Manly (8th)(2nd) 2012 v Canberra (15th)(6th) 2013 v St George (9th)(14th)
2014 v Manly (4th)(2nd) 2015 v St George (11th)(8th) 2016 v St George (8th)(11th)
2017 v Canterbury (7th)(11th) 2018 v Canterbury (11th)(12th) 2019 v Brisbane (=5)(8th)
2020 v Manly (6th)(13th) 2021 v Souths (6th)(3rd) 2022 v WT (13th)( ??)

If you go back to 1998, it becomes more obvious that Storm have been given a free ride. I can understand why the nrl would do this to launch rl in afl heartland, but what if it doesn’t stop there? What if this favouritism extends to other areas? What if it’s common knowledge among referees? As an example?

 

[jadtiger]

If you go back to 1998, it becomes more obvious that Storm have been given a free ride. I can understand why the nrl would do this to launch rl in afl heartland, but what if it doesn’t stop there? What if this favouritism extends to other areas? What if it’s common knowledge among referees? As an example?

Then you get a Sutton to "manage" the game.