Lack of leadership is why we don't have a good culture

[BAGNF05]

Melbournes culture off the field is a bit sus but when it comes to the business of producing teams that can win football games, they have created a culture of no nonsense, no excuses and professionalism. They have turned so many 6/10 players into 8/10 players that it can’t be denied. Their culture is winning, and they all buy into it.

As long as you’re at your peak when you cross the white stripe lol

 

[BAGNF05]

"Successful" cultures are rare in the NRL, i.e. Melbourne, Easts, Souths etc. and are always connected to "money is no object" owners. However, there are a number of examples where a "single town, lots of money" did not produce any result - NZ, GC, and even Brisbane in the latest period.
The "culture" is much more complicated.

Spot on about the money, I’ve never heard of them but Boomer home loans could save us 😂

 

[Fade.To.Black]

I’m struggling to think of anyone who was more detrimental to our club than Ivan Cleary

This stain would go very close.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

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This stain would go very close.

You’re giving him way too much credit if you believe that. In talking him down, you are actually taking him up that he would have that much influence.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Melbournes culture off the field is a bit sus but when it comes to the business of producing teams that can win football games, they have created a culture of no nonsense, no excuses and professionalism. They have turned so many 6/10 players into 8/10 players that it can’t be denied. Their culture is winning, and they all buy into it.

Bewdiful!!🤣

 

[Fade.To.Black]

You’re giving him way too much credit if you believe that. In talking him down, you are actually taking him up that he would have that much influence.

A maggot loafer who would've ponced around the training paddock like he was God's gift and never put in on game day, he would have a massive detrimental effect to his teammates. Then has an almighty whinge about the club after the fact.

 

[BAGNF05]

A maggot loafer who would've ponced around the training paddock like he was God's gift and never put in on game day, he would have a massive detrimental effect to his teammates. Then has an almighty whinge about the club after the fact.

We did make him fork out $3 for Gatorade

 

[GNR4LIFE]

A maggot loafer who would've ponced around the training paddock like he was God's gift and never put in on game day, he would have a massive detrimental effect to his teammates. Then has an almighty whinge about the club after the fact.

Yeah, but a lasting affect felt years later like there has been with Ivan? I don’t think do

 

[Kearnsy]

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This stain would go very close.

Sheens signed him up too 😬

 

[Needaname]

Melbournes culture off the field is a bit sus but when it comes to the business of producing teams that can win football games, they have created a culture of no nonsense, no excuses and professionalism. They have turned so many 6/10 players into 8/10 players that it can’t be denied. Their culture is winning, and they all buy into it.

Melbourne do recruit characters to fill out their squad. But they also do target the best juniors out there. They were talking about Munster before he arrived at Melbourne in late 2015 and mentioned as a 17 year he was tearing up the Queensland Cup. Where they need talent. Ie the Spine they recruit the best.

 

[earl]

You’re giving him way too much credit if you believe that. In talking him down, you are actually taking him up that he would have that much influence.

It was pretty funny though.

 

[trentrunciman]

Mentioned something about his wife didn't wanna leave Brisbane...

Added a new twist to the tale...

Interesting. I always knew we were close to getting Bellamy but didnt know all the details. WOuld've been nice to have him as coach. No doubt we would have won more than 1 comp with him.

back in 2003/2004 we had lots of kids coming through so would have been enticing for any coach.

 

[Demps]

Interesting. I always knew we were close to getting Bellamy but didnt know all the details. WOuld've been nice to have him as coach. No doubt we would have won more than 1 comp with him.

back in 2003/2004 we had lots of kids coming through so would have been enticing for any coach.

We've always got kids coming through.

Seems like we're finally moving in the right direction to keep them and develope them.

Time will tell. ⏰️

 

[trentrunciman]

We've always got kids coming through.

Seems like we're finally moving in the right direction to keep them and develope them.

Time will tell. ⏰️

especially in 03 with the talent we had coming thru we shouldve dominated a decade of football. Made GFs , etc etc

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We've always got kids coming through.

Seems like we're finally moving in the right direction to keep them and develope them.

Time will tell. ⏰️

We‘ve always got kids coming through. Yet they always have to do it on their own and it never works

 

[Papacito]

I agree in part. But, an interesting exercise is reviewing the fluctuation of the finalists for the past 10-15 years.
There’s a few teams that despite a hick up year have shown they are a constant in the finals. For a long time that’s the Roosters and Storm and historically the Broncos and whilst Thurston was a part of the Cowboys, looking even further back whilst Joey was part of the Knights they were also a sure bet. In recent times Penrith have moved into this same position.
Following that there’s the Sharks, Raiders, Manly and in more recent years Parramatta.
It’s still a bit of head scratcher for mine why those 4 just mentioned still show signs of inconsistency. Whilst you would agree they are always contenders, they aren’t a reliable bet.
Sometimes I feel clubs win football games more so than players do.

Actually, I’m editing the part re the knights. I’m not convinced they have the same culture. And using the same scenario as where the cowboys at without Morgan, Thurston, Cooper and Scott. You could say that the knights and cowboys never built the same systems and culture like the roosters and Melbourne have, they can rotate through players but still have the same effect in the comp. Unlike others.

Good observations.

I often wonder with these successful clubs how much of their success is really based on a deliberate culture.

In some ways, the successful clubs have a huge edge by mere virtue of being successful.

The James Tedescos of the world want to win, so they'll join a winning club on similar money to what they'll get at a non-winning club.

This in itself helps attract other winners and the cycle continues.

There's no doubt a winning culture at these clubs, but I think the culture comes after winning.

For mine, this is a bit part of why we have a salary cap that's meant to even out the talent yet we see the same clubs at the top every year.

 

[Harvey]

We seem to have a lot of players with no hunger and no pride.

Happy to get a contract and go through the motions

 

[TCL]

Culture is a myth, I’d settle for heart.

 

[Needaname]

It’s a small thing. But I noticed in the Manly press conference that before it started there was a staffer there putting up a temporary screen of their own sponsors.
I had a look at all the other press conferences and the following away teams did the same thing.
South Sydney
Penrith
Manly as mentioned
Parramatta
Canberra
Brisbane
The two teams that didn’t.
Us
Warriors.

 

[Newtown]

That’s a nice cliche but what does it actually look like?
What actual behaviours or outcomes should the board be espousing that will shape our players on the field?

A while ago now, but Pascoe had a forum where he allowed fans to ask him questions about the club. That went to the wayside and now Pascoe hardly makes any public comments at all.