Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BlackWhiteGold]

Pathways meeting is next week. Aitken's discussions have progressed quickly. Nikora seems to have made his choice elsewhere based on conversations had over the weekend. Jack Williams appears to off to the Storm.

Hi @THE_POM any update from the Pathways meeting this week on which Matts, Ball, JF players we are looking at long-term?

 

[PJ_]

Doueihi is a good player but I wouldn't compare him to Tedesco.

Injury wise dude.
Why would I compare him any other way? You were talking about injuries.

 

[clontarfkid]

Reality is ….. it was a right decision! Another rubbish argument by Rothfield shot down by Reid and Kent on NRL369 last night.

That’s unfair’: Tigers’ budget chase in $1.7m miss sparks debate as transfer reality sinks in​

The Tigers’ failed attempt to lure Briton Nikora away from the Sharks exposed one glaring issue — the club’s challenge in signing top-level talent — but also triggered a debate around the approach they should be taking.

The 24-year-old is set to re-sign with the Cronulla club on a three-year $1.7 million extension which will see his stay extend to the end of 2025.

The Tigers were in hot pursuit of the gun backrower, but according to The Daily Telegraph’s Brent Read, tabled an offer significantly lower than his new Sharks contract.

“Another one the Wests Tigers have missed out on... this guy could have added a lot to that team,” Rothfield said on NRL360.

Can I say it is a bit unfair to say the Wests Tigers missed out on him, because they weren’t willing to give him the money Cronulla gave him,” Read said.

“They missed out, they tried to sign him Ready,” Rothfield said.

“What why, because they didn’t want to blow the budget paying what they thought he was worth? I think that is unfair,” Read said.

“They tried to sign him and missed out,” Rothfield said.

“Well they didn’t offer as much money as Cronulla,” Read replied.

The Tigers’ roster management in the past has caused the club issues, having signed a number of players on big-money deals who failed to deliver.

While many would suggest the Tigers must be smart with their cap, Rothfield believes they should offer lucrative deals to players they want to sign.

The merger club have already secured veteran dummy-half Apisai Koroisau and workhorse Isaiah Papali’I for the 2023 season and now will be hoping to complete some smart buys to continue their rebuild.

“What are you saying Cronulla paid overs (for Nikora)?” Rothfield asked.

I am saying they paid a lot more than the Wests Tigers were willing to pay for him,” Read said.

Maybe the Wests Tigers, if they want to sign quality players, should go into the market properly and offer realistic money,” Rothfield.

“They have signed a couple of decent players, Koroisau and Papali’i, but you can’t bust your cap by paying overs, they have had enough trouble doing that over the years, their cap has been a mess for five or six years,” Read said.

“It is probably a good decision from the Tigers not to pay overs for Nikora,” Anasta added.

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“But when you’re a club like the Wests Tigers, a bit like the Canberra Raiders, a bit like Newcastle, you have got to pay overs,” Rothfield said.

Paul Kent and Brent Read completely disagreed, explaining that paying overs for players that aren’t in your spine only creates issues.

“Buzz that is what has got them into trouble, because what you have to do is keep the top elite players at the right value and them developing underneath and eventually you will be an attractive option for a player,” Kent said.

“The Tigers are in trouble now because they paid overs for too many players the last three or fours years,” Anasta added.

“But you have got to pick your mark, you don’t pay overs, with due respect for Briton Nikora, you pay overs for spine blokes who are going to win you games,” Read said.

Read is absolutely spot on..u only pay overs for a key spine player..like a fullback in our case
As for Nikora..he was risky.Standout in some games,but completely invisible in others.Peachy -like.
I was not unhappy to miss him tbh
Id rather attempt to lure Lucy back to base,or pick up Creighton who clearly needs a change and wld bring invaluable leadership to the group

 

[bptiger 0]

Don’t believe how people on here think just because u have a decent player in a certain spot u can’t sign another , don’t u think having back up is important, in case of injury or form lapse, just don’t get it with people wanting to get rid AD if we keep someone else , crazy stuff

 

[Curaeus]

Rothfield is just embarrassing. Surprising that Read, Kent and even Anasta called him out on this latest anti-WT rant but nevertheless welcome. Doubt too many take the old buffoon very seriously anymore anyway.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Reality is ….. it was a right decision! Another rubbish argument by Rothfield shot down by Reid and Kent on NRL369 last night.

That’s unfair’: Tigers’ budget chase in $1.7m miss sparks debate as transfer reality sinks in​

The Tigers’ failed attempt to lure Briton Nikora away from the Sharks exposed one glaring issue — the club’s challenge in signing top-level talent — but also triggered a debate around the approach they should be taking.

The 24-year-old is set to re-sign with the Cronulla club on a three-year $1.7 million extension which will see his stay extend to the end of 2025.

The Tigers were in hot pursuit of the gun backrower, but according to The Daily Telegraph’s Brent Read, tabled an offer significantly lower than his new Sharks contract.

“Another one the Wests Tigers have missed out on... this guy could have added a lot to that team,” Rothfield said on NRL360.

Can I say it is a bit unfair to say the Wests Tigers missed out on him, because they weren’t willing to give him the money Cronulla gave him,” Read said.

“They missed out, they tried to sign him Ready,” Rothfield said.

“What why, because they didn’t want to blow the budget paying what they thought he was worth? I think that is unfair,” Read said.

“They tried to sign him and missed out,” Rothfield said.

“Well they didn’t offer as much money as Cronulla,” Read replied.

The Tigers’ roster management in the past has caused the club issues, having signed a number of players on big-money deals who failed to deliver.

While many would suggest the Tigers must be smart with their cap, Rothfield believes they should offer lucrative deals to players they want to sign.

The merger club have already secured veteran dummy-half Apisai Koroisau and workhorse Isaiah Papali’I for the 2023 season and now will be hoping to complete some smart buys to continue their rebuild.

“What are you saying Cronulla paid overs (for Nikora)?” Rothfield asked.

I am saying they paid a lot more than the Wests Tigers were willing to pay for him,” Read said.

Maybe the Wests Tigers, if they want to sign quality players, should go into the market properly and offer realistic money,” Rothfield.

“They have signed a couple of decent players, Koroisau and Papali’i, but you can’t bust your cap by paying overs, they have had enough trouble doing that over the years, their cap has been a mess for five or six years,” Read said.

“It is probably a good decision from the Tigers not to pay overs for Nikora,” Anasta added.

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“But when you’re a club like the Wests Tigers, a bit like the Canberra Raiders, a bit like Newcastle, you have got to pay overs,” Rothfield said.

Paul Kent and Brent Read completely disagreed, explaining that paying overs for players that aren’t in your spine only creates issues.

“Buzz that is what has got them into trouble, because what you have to do is keep the top elite players at the right value and them developing underneath and eventually you will be an attractive option for a player,” Kent said.

“The Tigers are in trouble now because they paid overs for too many players the last three or fours years,” Anasta added.

“But you have got to pick your mark, you don’t pay overs, with due respect for Briton Nikora, you pay overs for spine blokes who are going to win you games,” Read said.

Thanks for posting. Didn’t see the segment. Lots to like about that exchange. If tigers stick to the current strategy things will turn eventually.

 

[batboy]

Easy choice. AD. He's on half the coin and provides more output

Reports had Doueihi on 650k!!
Remember the Roosters also wanted him at the time...
(Or wanted us to have to pay for him)

People wanna bang on about certain players and the Value for money,
Not sure 650k a year for a kid who's done 2 ACL's in the space of 3 years would be considered money well spent.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Reports had Doueihi on 650k!!
Remember the Roosters also wanted him at the time...
(Or wanted us to have to pay for him)

People wanna bang on about certain players and the Value for money,
Not sure 650k a year for a kid who's done 2 ACL's in the space of 3 years would be considered money well spent.

If he heads to the back row he may have to take a haircut.

 

[batboy]

So was teddy.

Played the majority of his games for 4/6 years here...
Somewhat unfair statement..

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Don’t believe how people on here think just because u have a decent player in a certain spot u can’t sign another , don’t u think having back up is important, in case of injury or form lapse, just don’t get it with people wanting to get rid AD if we keep someone else , crazy stuff

Similar to what the roosters are doing at the moment. We need to do more of it. If there is good culture, the current “good” players play better to keep their spots: the team gets better!

 

[TheDaBoss]

Buzz is a dipshit

 

[2041]

Easy choice. AD. He's on half the coin and provides more output

But you can't just wish Brooks's contract away. No-one is going to pay him a million bucks a year so the question is how much freight we'd need to pay to get rid of him. It's a completely different equation to what you're suggesting.

 

[diedpretty]

Buzz is an old drunk wanker

Plus the others were suggesting that the club that he has a love fest with every week may have paid overs. The ole drunkard wouldn't have liked that. Also had to laugh at this " “The Tigers are in trouble now because they paid overs for too many players the last three or fours years,” Anasta added." No Braith we are in trouble because we keep signing hacks like you.

 

[PJ_]

Played the majority of his games for 4/6 years here...
Somewhat unfair statement..

It's a likewise injury comparison to AD.
First few yrs we had teddy and First few years we've had AD.
Paws brought it up and I compared to teddy.
We know how good he turned out to be.
Don't hate on the King.

 

[batboy]

But you can't just wish Brooks's contract away. No-one is going to pay him a million bucks a year so the question is how much freight we'd need to pay to get rid of him. It's a completely different equation to what you're suggesting.

That - And the previous statement is just not correct...

Doueihi - Is on 2/3's of Brooks Money....
And isn't offering anything at all ATM
(Apart from keeping the re-hab guys company)

2nd ACL (9 month injury) in 3 Years.... Do the math...

 

[momo_amp_medo]

TIGERS SHOP LIDDLE TO RIVALS



The Wests Tigers are reportedly shopping out of favour dummy-half Jacob Liddle to rival clubs.

The 25-year-old has fallen behind Jake Simpkin in the No.9 pecking order in recent weeks.

Liddle suffered a PCL injury during the club’s final trial match, which allowed Simpkin to stake his claim as the club’s future hooker.

Now, with a number of dummy-half options and the arrival of Apisai Koroisau in 2023, the Tigers are reportedly looking to move Liddle on.

“Jacob Liddle is the player, Wests Tigers hooker, he can’t get a start at the moment, stuck behind Jake Simpkin, he was named in the reserves this week and Magic Round,” The Daily Telegraph’s David Riccio said on Triple M Breakfast.

“It is the St George Illawarra Dragons and the Raiders that have been offered Jacob Liddle.

“Both clubs are stretched in that position, the dummy-half area, Liddle has been very much a part of the Tigers fabric since 2016, he is a 25-year-old he has come through their system.

“But keep an eye on this one.”

 

[batboy]

It's a likewise injury comparison to AD.
First few yrs we had teddy and First few years we've had AD.
Paws brought it up and I compared to teddy.
We know how good he turned out to be.
Don't hate on the King.

Don't hate AD at all....
We also bought him off the back of a long term injury...

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

TIGERS SHOP LIDDLE TO RIVALS



The Wests Tigers are reportedly shopping out of favour dummy-half Jacob Liddle to rival clubs.

The 25-year-old has fallen behind Jake Simpkin in the No.9 pecking order in recent weeks.

Liddle suffered a PCL injury during the club’s final trial match, which allowed Simpkin to stake his claim as the club’s future hooker.

Now, with a number of dummy-half options and the arrival of Apisai Koroisau in 2023, the Tigers are reportedly looking to move Liddle on.

“Jacob Liddle is the player, Wests Tigers hooker, he can’t get a start at the moment, stuck behind Jake Simpkin, he was named in the reserves this week and Magic Round,” The Daily Telegraph’s David Riccio said on Triple M Breakfast.

“It is the St George Illawarra Dragons and the Raiders that have been offered Jacob Liddle.

“Both clubs are stretched in that position, the dummy-half area, Liddle has been very much a part of the Tigers fabric since 2016, he is a 25-year-old he has come through their system.

“But keep an eye on this one.”

I would jump at the chance to trade Liddle+Cash for Tapine.

 

[jadtiger]

Buzz is an old drunk wanker

I doubt if being a wanker would be of much use to Buzz these days considering the look of his physique,i would say being an alcoholic voyeur would be his sole pleasure these days

 

[Long Term Fan]

Maybe if WT are under the salary cap in 2022 they can paid out the rest of Mbye's contract to free up money for 2023.

I like many on this Forum have watched Rugby League for a long time and appreciate that not many stars/talented juniors make it to the elite level. The grind of week to week NRL is a tough gig.

Given the toughness of the sport and limited time in the sport I am all for players trying to make the most money whilst they can. We all know most players are only a serious injury away from retirement. Concussion and it's long term effects are a major concern and needs to be addressed by the powers to be.

I don't like the idea of a 17th team but that is the direction the NRL are going.

Like most most long term Magpies fans we have got use to losing good players to other clubs Sad seeing Tommy and O'Grady suit up for the Jets and don't get me started on Manly.

WT have had the same issues losing quality players in Teddy, Moses, Gibbs, Fifita, Prince, JAC, Dora, etc and now Leuila. I appreciate every player has their own story or reason but still sad to see local juniors move on and not wanting to stay together.

All successful teams need experienced and hard nosed players in their team which compliments the juniors that surround them.

I have read on many Forum Member's reviews that WT have a crop of talented juniors coming through and we need to learn from the Panthers that these players need to be identified, given the right tools to succeed and great mentor programs. As well as money and tied up to contracts (yes we know contracts are not worth the paper they are drawn on) we need a bunch of elite juniors to want to stick together through the grades and want to succeed at the highest level together.

We need to learn from mistakes made with players like Papps and Ryan Hoffman who were once outstanding juniors but left for more Green (maybe Purple is a better word) pastures.

Happy for WT every year to buy these hard nosed experienced players but really the money and time needs to bring a bunch of local juniors up together and want to stick together like Penrith have done. WT should also identify other teams local juniors to compliment any short comings they have in certain positions.