Manly Inclusive Pride jersey backlash

[liltiger]

What should we as a society do to state that homophobia is unacceptable ?

Should we sack any player who is a bigot ? Do we test them prior to playing ? Do we test everyone in society ?

Are you that strong in your opinions ?

I know it's wrong but I don't know how far you go.

As a society we should just let people live their lives and mind our own business, bigots and homophobes aren't going to change because we hold events or tell them it's wrong, I could understand in the 70s but attitudes today are totally different, people know these attitudes are unacceptable, in saying that though bigotry in some way shape or form is apart of everyone's lives, we all experience some degree of it.

 

[PJ2]

Get paid to play football.
Wear what Ur told.

 

[Tiger_Bond]

I am proud of the 7 who stood for what they believed in, why don’t we have a round that celebrates their beliefs (oh wait that’s not acceptable)

What I’m trying to say is leave the game alone and leave the political agendas out of it

 

[earl]

I am proud of the 7 who stood for what they believed in, why don’t we have a round that celebrates their beliefs (oh wait that’s not acceptable)

Their beliefs aren't acceptable and they've done nothing at all to be proud of.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I'll say it again - if all you want on a weekly basis is footy and nothing else, then don't come in here and start complaining / engaging about these sensitive topics.

You didn't even answer my question about whether or not you support women's round or indigenous round.

It isn't necessary. Women are fully welcome and are included as officials and indigenous players for mine are the most skillful in RLhave been Australian captains etc.

Of course you don't need my approval.

Why do you want RL used to push causes with a political bias?

Why should it be.

And who decides and which politics? Only left wing? What of other minority groups? What of conservative families which are basically a minority group?

Don't notice AFL doing much of this.

Every other week.

 

[cochise]

Why do you want RL used to push causes with a political bias?

Why should it be.

And who decides and which politics?

Don't notice AFL doing much of this.

Every other week.

Really?

 

[Magpie_Magic]

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Really.

Don't follow AFL closely, might be wrong but they don't push causes like us.

Haven't watched a game this year but their outfits used to be stable.

What about EPL?

My point is you can include everyone by mentioning different groups on the club's webpage. But the jersey stays the same.

Every time a group is included another one feels left out because it wasn't selected.

 

[cochise]

Really.

Don't follow AFL closely, might be wrong but they don't push causes like us.

Haven't watched a game this year but their outfits used to be stable.

What about EPL?

My point is you can include everyone by mentioning different groups on the club's webpage. But the jersey stays the same.

Every time a group is included another one feels left out because it wasn't selected.

The AFL have an entire pride round.

 

[JRDee]

The AFL have an entire pride round.

Think you will find it’s not a whole round it’s between Sydney Swans and St Kilda

 

[jirskyr]

It isn't necessary. Women are fully welcome and are included as officials and indigenous players for mine are the most skillful in RLhave been Australian captains etc.

Why do you want RL used to push causes with a political bias?

Why should it be.

And who decides and which politics? Only left wing? What of other minority groups? What of conservative families which are basically a minority group?

Don't notice AFL doing much of this.

Every other week.

LGBTI are fully welcome, included as officials and have had some of the most skillful players ever?

You'll also have to explain to me how recognising alternative sexual identities is political.

Or inverted: how any topic, with two sides, is not inherently political. For example there is nothing about indigenous support and recognition that is not political, because it only occurs via a political apparatus.

 

[jirskyr]

Really.

Don't follow AFL closely, might be wrong but they don't push causes like us.

Haven't watched a game this year but their outfits used to be stable.

What about EPL?

My point is you can include everyone by mentioning different groups on the club's webpage. But the jersey stays the same.

Every time a group is included another one feels left out because it wasn't selected.

You don't rate doing a bit of research do you?

EPL had pride support over two rounds via the Rainbow Laces campaign in season 21-22

Rainbow Laces Campaign – Stonewall & Team Pride | Premier League

The Premier League proudly stands alongside Stonewall in promoting equality and diversity. For more information, visit the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

Now you are fixated, on what, the jersey must stay the same? But they can otherwise support any cause the want? What about shorts, socks, laces, mouthguards, arm-bands etc?

 

[jirskyr]

I don't support any thing that exploits a cause to generate revenue, so if that's women's round, indigenous round or any other round containing fake platitudes. If they hold a round where all profits were donated to the cause being promoted I'm all in.

How do you define "exploits"?

 

[Camel2281]

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It isn't necessary. Women are fully welcome and are included as officials and indigenous players for mine are the most skillful in RLhave been Australian captains etc.

Why do you want RL used to push causes with a political bias?

Why should it be.

And who decides and which politics? Only left wing? What of other minority groups? What of conservative families which are basically a minority group?

Don't notice AFL doing much of this.

Every other week.

AFL have an entire pride round.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

LGBTI are fully welcome, included as officials and have had some of the most skillful players ever?

You'll also have to explain to me how recognising alternative sexual identities is political.

Recognition of alternative sexual preference isn't political but the promotion of pride can be construed by some as political in that it promotes not only inclusion but an assertive culture. Obviously, certain laws by extension like same sex couples adopting children flow from such .

Or inverted: how any topic, with two sides, is not inherently political. For example there is nothing about indigenous support and recognition that is not political, because it only occurs via a political apparatus.

Agree.

But then explain to me why any of this needs to be included on a RL Jersey.?

Same with Men of league as a round etc.
There are reunions and support groups for such.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

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You don't rate doing a bit of research do you?

EPL had pride support over two rounds via the Rainbow Laces campaign in season 21-22

Rainbow Laces Campaign – Stonewall & Team Pride | Premier League

The Premier League proudly stands alongside Stonewall in promoting equality and diversity. For more information, visit the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

Now you are fixated, on what, the jersey must stay the same? But they can otherwise support any cause the want? What about shorts, socks, laces, mouthguards, arm-bands etc?

Outfits should stay the same imo.
If players write stuff on strapping that is an individual players position not the clubs.
And in my opinion that should be standardised as well as eliminated.

Not exactly on topic but it shouldn't be sports job to push for political, inclusion or other agendas. Sport should make it obvious that they include everybody as per the law and provide the escape people need.

 

[liltiger]

How do you define "exploits"?

Uses inorder to derive a benefit from at the expense of.

 

[Tigerwould]

Good to see Manly divided over this. Josh Aloiai to spokesperson for the 7.
Foran leaving next year, Davey going. Taupau and Josh Schuster wanting out

 

[jirskyr]

Recognition of alternative sexual preference isn't political but the promotion of pride can be construed by some as political in that it promotes not only inclusion but an assertive culture. Obviously, certain laws by extension like same sex couples adopting children flow from such .

Agree.

But then explain to me why any of this needs to be included on a RL Jersey.?

Same with Men of league as a round etc.
There are reunions and support groups for such.

Who cares if something can be construed as political? So sensitive, it's crazy to me.

Why put it on a jersey? Because they can. Because it's a clear and straightforward way to highlight their campaign and cut through to large numbers of people who haven't been paying any attention to what round it is, or what Manly's club values might be.

If you don't get that, then I don't know how else to explain it to you.

 

[JRDee]

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AFL have an entire pride round.

No they don’t , one game between Sydney and St Kilda

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Good to see Manly divided over this. Josh Aloiai to spokesperson for the 7.
Foran leaving next year, Davey going. Taupas and Josh Schuster wanting out

Gunna be hated by the left and right and seemingly excluding everyone.

Time to give back the 78 as well as 08 and 11 premierships too for other wrongs.👍