David Nofoaluma #164

[The SHADOW]

I agree. 'Champ' is a kind of bullying term. On a par with 'dickhead' but acceptable to mods.

Well said champion.🤣🤣🤣

 

[Moh]

I've got no time for Nofo.

He is toxic, and part of our problematic culture. His arrogance really shows, and he genuinely thinks hes too good for this club - the moment he signed his extension he was made to look like this saviour. He's delivered us nothing, and offered zero leadership for someone of his experience.

 

[Cobarcats]

Every time I see someone moan about the evils of professional sport I think 'well there's plenty of semi professional and non professional sport out there to watch instead What's stopping you?'

No way, I love watching my semi-professional WT play.
I'll never stop backing them even if I'm entitled to get rid of some frustration after continually being let down year after year....Go tiges 😻

 

[tigerap]

He is certainly generating debate if nothing else…put Brooks in the Storm side and he’d be just as good as Jerome Hughes….our biggest issue is our forward pack always get owned…. We need 5 forwards who bend the line and hit hard in defence…. Today our pack doesn’t neither…

 

[innsaneink]

Melbourne has a rule that’s part of their culture that after you score a try you can’t acknowledge the crowd or the cameras. You have to turn around and thank your teammates. It’s quite funny watching Nof do that when his natural instinct is to do otherwise.

Someone forgot to tell munster eh?

 

[bptiger 0]

He ain’t coming back , after playing on the end of that backline . Also I bet he doesn’t cope shit like some on here have poured on him over the years , he has been one of the best finishers in the comp for years , and yes he has some defensive problems , but he is still a great WESTSTIGERS player

 

[KevB]

It’s starting to look like the impediments to his play are relationship issues within the club?
If that’s the case then that needs to be sorted pronto. It can’t wait until offseason.
I recall “bloke in the bar” asking Nofa “who else(apart from Benji) plays golf at WT?” Said he didn’t know, but said it in a way that made me think perhaps he didn’t care?
A team without teamwork is not a team, and imho, that’s why we lose so many games.

You could also add to that effort, something Nofoaluma doesn't lack.

 

[twentyforty]

He is certainly generating debate if nothing else…put Brooks in the Storm side and he’d be just as good as Jerome Hughes….our biggest issue is our forward pack always get owned…. We need 5 forwards who bend the line and hit hard in defence…. Today our pack doesn’t neither…

And a bloody wrestling coach, or tackling coach, call him whatever, but as long as he can show us how to win the collision.
There’s been a lot of talk lately about WT’s DNA. It’s based around on field behaviour apparently, where the players have more control of their own destiny. Chip n chase on your own 20 or so. But it also includes a different mindset in defence, in that it is no longer imperative to wrestle the ball runner to the ground, on his back and facing his own line. BTW, if you’re dh and looking at your players head and not his arse, the easiest thing to do is place one hand on his head and face him in the right direction. Where the head goes the body will follow.
But back to the defence and the role it plays in the unstructured footy style..it requires your opponents to play faster than they otherwise would.
When we watch tonight’s game, look at how many times we “fail” to put the ball runner down?
The reasons are obvious..we are already in our defensive structure, but how much less time does the opposition have to call and deploy their next offensive?

 

[Lauren]

Like all human development or growth, it's a gradual process and environmental factors shape not only physical traits but also behavioural ones such as character and decision making ability.
Meanwhile we've faced a lot of instability over the years. Coaches and players. We're also a club often under pressure.
So obviously not the best environment.

Their team dynamics and coordination (balance) are way different than the Wests Tigers, with their capabilities at the opposite end to ours.
They really only have to find optimal solutions to manipulate game constraints as their roles, individual tasks and teamwork model (interactions) are basically predetermined from the performance culture they have successfully embedded at the club.
Our roster and practices greatly vary from theirs so naturally the players we've moulded are at a lower standard, unfortunately.

 

[Cobarcats]

Like all human development or growth, it's a gradual process and environmental factors shape not only physical traits but also behavioural ones such as character and decision making ability.
Meanwhile we've faced a lot of instability over the years. Coaches and players. We're also a club often under pressure.
So obviously not the best environment.

Their team dynamics and coordination (balance) are way different than the Wests Tigers, with their capabilities at the opposite end to ours.
They really only have to find optimal solutions to manipulate game constraints as their roles, individual tasks and teamwork model (interactions) are basically predetermined from the performance culture they have successfully embedded at the club.
Our roster and practices greatly vary from theirs so naturally the players we've moulded are at a lower standard, unfortunately.

Did you put that together Lauren....good stuff.
I would love to be a fly on the wall in Storm's shed talk, video sessions and walk around their training sessions to see what they do that is so unique. 🤔

 

[earl]

And a bloody wrestling coach, or tackling coach, call him whatever, but as long as he can show us how to win the collision.

The Storm have or had John Donehue as their wresting coach. The Tigers have or had Anthony Perosh. Perosh was definitely the wrestling coach under Madge.

I know which guy is much more credentialed.

I wish it was as simple as just teaching them how to win the collision.

 

[earl]

Our roster and practices greatly vary from theirs so naturally the players we've moulded are at a lower standard, unfortunately.

I'm not sure about the practices part. We had Madge here who learnt at the Storm. I also just stated who our wrestling coach is and who the Storm's coach is or was. I may be out of date a little bit but the point remains valid.

We need to improve the roster significantly. Look at the team that the Rorters put on the park today compared to ours. It's like chalk and cheese.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Sorry I don't feel they were best for us though. But that's JMO.
Honestly never saw much improvement from players and didn't feel we functioned at our best - which is the overall objective.

IMO We only needed maybe one or elite player and a leader or two and the others would have bought in under Madge. Hastings was too little too late.

 

[earl]

Sorry I don't feel they were best for us though. But that's JMO.
Honestly never saw much improvement from players and didn't feel we functioned at our best - which is the overall objective.

The thing is we can't complain about not having Melbourne's culture when we've bought in a coach from the Melbourne system who was also a premiership winning coach and we sacked him. We also have in my opinion a better credentialed wrestling coach compared to Melbourne.

Winning matters. I'm just not sure what we need to do to get better. If it was as simple as adopting Melbourne's culture I'd go so far to state we've done that and it hasn't worked.

I don't believe culture has a huge relationship with improved performance. I think a good culture leads to a better environment for everyone. I think bad cultures can lead to winning performances.

Nofo to me is playing exactly the way he consistently has played for us. He is a good player. I think he just has better players around him.

 

[Stevec]

What amuses me is that many on this forum were rubbishing him for the last year and he's not good enough for WT .So he goes to Storm and gets instructions on positional play and he's following his instructions and doing his job . No tries on his side . Why does he generate so much comment ?
I hope he does well and comes back .Some hope he fails im not one of them

 

[Telltails]

The thing is we can't complain about not having Melbourne's culture when we've bought in a coach from the Melbourne system who was also a premiership winning coach and we sacked him. We also have in my opinion a better credentialed wrestling coach compared to Melbourne.

Winning matters. I'm just not sure what we need to do to get better. If it was as simple as adopting Melbourne's culture I'd go so far to state we've done that and it hasn't worked.

I don't believe culture has a huge relationship with improved performance. I think a good culture leads to a better environment for everyone. I think bad cultures can lead to winning performances.

Nofo to me is playing exactly the way he consistently has played for us. He is a good player. I think he just has better players around him.

Losing amplifies players weaknesses which can be overlooked when you are winning. Hence why so many of our players hold their own in stronger clubs.
The problem is with the quality of the roster and always has been no matter how many coaches we go through - or people who try to convince you otherwise. Players know it, and it seems now that some coaches are not willing to stake their reputation on taking us on either..

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

So it’s been the coach all through his career?

Cmon Let's be real he has been fine most of his career, The last 2yrs however he has been well off his game. That is on Madge for not being able to motivate and drive him.

Nofa sucks in defence most wingers do, Nofa strength is always with the ball. It's funny that a few games in he has all of a sudden found his game. That is on the coach. Add to this that if you put any winger outside of one of the best defensive centers in the game Olam and they will have alot easier job than what the same winger would have here by a mile.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

What amuses me is that many on this forum were rubbishing him for the last year and he's not good enough for WT .So he goes to Storm and gets instructions on positional play and he's following his instructions and doing his job . No tries on his side . Why does he generate so much comment ?
I hope he does well and comes back .Some hope he fails im not one of them

What's funny is people tend to blame players more often than not when it's clear our team is poorly coached on defensive positioning and structures.

 

[mikey]

Like all human development or growth, it's a gradual process and environmental factors shape not only physical traits but also behavioural ones such as character and decision making ability.
Meanwhile we've faced a lot of instability over the years. Coaches and players. We're also a club often under pressure.
So obviously not the best environment.

Their team dynamics and coordination (balance) are way different than the Wests Tigers, with their capabilities at the opposite end to ours.
They really only have to find optimal solutions to manipulate game constraints as their roles, individual tasks and teamwork model (interactions) are basically predetermined from the performance culture they have successfully embedded at the club.
Our roster and practices greatly vary from theirs so naturally the players we've moulded are at a lower standard, unfortunately.

Without a doubt true. Another question is why Bellamy's assistants that go on to coach 1sts aren't able to replicate that to the same level.

 

[mikey]

What's funny is people tend to blame players more often than not when it's clear our team is poorly coached on defensive positioning and structures.

We did seem to improve in that area for a while but it's back to the primordial ooze atm.