Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[BlackWhiteGold]

Our season starts now. It is called the recruitment stakes.

It will require amazing negotiation to offload Peachey, Musgrove, Liddle, Tuki Simpkins & Gildart. I think Jake Simpkin wwould be snapped up.

And then bringing the right type of players to help change the culture of the club and with the right playing characteristics (strong, fast, powerful, skillful).

Sheens has apparently been in long discussions with Gus and now he needs to see what is possible out of Newcastle, Manly and the Dragons (the teams with discontent in the ranks) and also Penrith (salary cap squeeze).

 

[twentyforty]

He’s the best halfback at the club and the best halfback we have had for almost ever and we okay him in the forwards, when we already get man-handled haha

Thats right. Brooksy hasnt given up, hes just exhausted.

 

[carltonleach]

Todd Payten made comments about players staying at the club (presumably for less) rather than taking up more lucrative contract offers elsewhere. This is the second time he has made interesting comments so NQ must be feeling the heat in terms of the salary cap.

He’s definitely a player I’d invest good money in!! If they really are feeling the pressure the moment nov 1 come around I’d be on his door with a good size offer! I just wouldn’t send Pascoe 🤣

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Our season starts now. It is called the recruitment stakes.

It will require amazing negotiation to offload Peachey, Musgrove, Liddle, Tuki Simpkins & Gildart. I think Jake Simpkin wwould be snapped up.

And then bringing the right type of players to help change the culture of the club and with the right playing characteristics (strong, fast, powerful, skillful).

Sheens has apparently been in long discussions with Gus and now he needs to see what is possible out of Newcastle, Manly and the Dragons (the teams with discontent in the ranks) and also Penrith (salary cap squeeze).

And the extension of Jackson Hastings and decisions on the futures of Doeuihi, Brooks, Offa & Laurie.

A massive 3-4 months ahead!

 

[batboy]

Thats right. Brooksy hasnt given up, hes just exhausted.

My theory on it has been this
- I don't know he's really got an injury, Or if he did, It's to the extent they've told us.
I think he's been given time off to organise for his baby, Clear his head and freshen up to hit the ground running under Sheens...

 

[tony soprano]

My theory on it has been this
- I don't know he's really got an injury, Or if he did, It's to the extent they've told us.
I think he's been given time off to organise for his baby, Clear his head and freshen up to hit the ground running under Sheens...

Think you're on to something.

 

[batboy]

Think you're on to something.

Either that - Or he has the worlds worst calf "strain"....
As soon as they mentioned it, He was never mentioned again...
No update, No he's close - No nothing...

And to be honest, If he was there these last few weeks - He'd have been the whipping boy for all of them.
Sheens might be thinking there's something in letting him off for a couple months?

 

[tony soprano]

Biggest Recruitment drive ever is a must.

Ricky Stuart style placing names on power point who must go.

 

[hsvjones]

And the extension of Jackson Hastings and decisions on the futures of Doeuihi, Brooks, Offa & Laurie.

A massive 3-4 months ahead!

I at least hope Hastings is sorted very soon and before Nov 1 as he is the main priority IMO.
I can only assume we are keeping Brooks with the club announcing Madden is leaving as well.
I wonder if Brooks has accepted the extension on a lower salary or not as I think Him, AD and Hastings at Lock works and works well.

 

[Stevec]

Recruitment is essential but very difficult because :
- every wanted nrl player is already signed with another club to end 2023
There are a handful of guys not signed next year usually because of age
Cant build a future on 30 to 35 year olds
- we've had zero success in last few months attracting anybody because we are seen as a toxic fractured environment
So all we do is fantasy recruitment without addressing the issues which are
How to change our image dramatically . The 3 wise men taking over today must start there . Admit what our problems are, explain major Initiatives to turn things around and sell the club to the Nrl community
Young budding superstars might find their path to Nrl stardom slow at the top clubs waiting in line behind existing superstars whereas at the Tigers a more direct route awaits .I'm talking here about the absolute best in Nsw cup or Qld cup whatever club they normally feed

 

[stryker 69]

LONGEST FINALS DROUGHTS IN NRL​

Player Last final Games Luke Brooks Never played 189 David Nofoaluma Never played 180 Ava Seumanufagai Never played 141 Euan Aitken 2015, Finals Week 1 133 Josh Jackson 2016, Finals Week 1 130 Adam Elliott Never played 124 Moses Mbye 2016, Finals Week 1 122 Aiden Tolman 2016, Finals Week 1 121 Paul Vaughan 2016, Preliminary Final 120 Kevin Naiqama 2013, Preliminary Final 104 Coen Hess 2017, Grand Final 103

It will be difficult to catch the record Brooks sets.
Nofa will finish on 180.
Ava is done isnt he? Unlikely to get past 160 if he is still running about.
Elliot is heading to Newcastle, so he is a chance, but Brooks will keep the margin similar until at least 2024. He may be gone by then as well. Possible for him to overtake.
No one else is within a bulls roar currently.

 

[tony soprano]

Either that - Or he has the worlds worst calf "strain"....
As soon as they mentioned it, He was never mentioned again...
No update, No he's close - No nothing...

And to be honest, If he was there these last few weeks - He'd have been the whipping boy for all of them.
Sheens might be thinking there's something in letting him off for a couple months?

I think it's a noble thing saving Brooks from the last few weeks. No doubt he could of played

That's the difference of the approach from a coach trying to save his job compared to Sheens doing the opposite approach of thinking for future.

Both have plus and minus. Look at last year we had talau do season ending injury for little gain.

But this season look like an even bigger basket case and no player will want to come here.

Regardless, I think now that Sheens let those guys crash and burn he should let the majority go and pray to God he can do some player trading

 

[Dennisspicer1]

Poor diddums.....

Deplorables.....

I know, what might solve the problem, can we play out of lidcombe oval.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

My theory on it has been this
- I don't know he's really got an injury, Or if he did, It's to the extent they've told us.
I think he's been given time off to organise for his baby, Clear his head and freshen up to hit the ground running under Sheens...

I had a thought like this as well.
I think it's a big reason Noffa was sent to the Storm as well.
Out of Sydney & remove the pressure off him
Both have copped it and there is no way it couldn't be taking a toll on them mentally.

 

[balmain boy]

It will be difficult to catch the record Brooks sets.
Nofa will finish on 180.
Ava is done isnt he? Unlikely to get past 160 if he is still running about.
Elliot is heading to Newcastle, so he is a chance, but Brooks will keep the margin similar until at least 2024. He may be gone by then as well. Possible for him to overtake.
No one else is within a bulls roar currently.

Elliott will play next week against Melbourne

 

[balmain boy]

Recruitment is essential but very difficult because :
- every wanted nrl player is already signed with another club to end 2023
There are a handful of guys not signed next year usually because of age
Cant build a future on 30 to 35 year olds
- we've had zero success in last few months attracting anybody because we are seen as a toxic fractured environment
So all we do is fantasy recruitment without addressing the issues which are
How to change our image dramatically . The 3 wise men taking over today must start there . Admit what our problems are, explain major Initiatives to turn things around and sell the club to the Nrl community
Young budding superstars might find their path to Nrl stardom slow at the top clubs waiting in line behind existing superstars whereas at the Tigers a more direct route awaits .I'm talking here about the absolute best in Nsw cup or Qld cup whatever club they normally feed

I'm not sure how this still isn't understood but the players we'll be signing for next season will nearly all be under contract in 23, and get released.
Just like many of our losses won't just be those without a contract but the likes of Liddle, Peachey, Gildart etc who are under contract but we're trying to offload...

 

[stryker 69]

I'm not sure how this still isn't understood but the players we'll be signing for next season will nearly all be under contract in 23, and get released.
Just like many of our losses won't just be those without a contract but the likes of Liddle, Peachey, Gildart etc who are under contract but we're trying to offload...

This is understood, and is why many have been calling on recruitment all year long to investigate opportunities. Lets hope this was conducted.

 

[Telltails]

I think it's a noble thing saving Brooks from the last few weeks. No doubt he could of played

That's the difference of the approach from a coach trying to save his job compared to Sheens doing the opposite approach of thinking for future.

Both have plus and minus. Look at last year we had talau do season ending injury for little gain.

But this season look like an even bigger basket case and no player will want to come here.

Regardless, I think now that Sheens let those guys crash and burn he should let the majority go and pray to God he can do some player trading

I hope that is theory only. If Brooks was fit he should have been played. Showing favours for some while others are out there getting caned. Not on - and may explain why their performances have been so disgraceful and Sheens has been distancing himself.

 

[Glenji95]

I would love to sign Reuben Garrick as a Fullback. Think he would be a good one plus good goal kicker too.

 

[stryker 69]

I hope that is theory only. If Brooks was fit he should have been played. Showing favours for some while others are out there getting caned. Not on - and may explain why their performances have been so disgraceful and Sheens has been distancing himself.

100%
According to some on here, Brooks is our best. If we didnt use "our best" for fear he'd be injured, Id want those decision makers sacked immediately before they cause anymore harm.