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jadtiger said:
This thread should be renamed Right Wing Conspiracy Theories because that is what it has descended to and as always it is just a few who have made it that way.Very sad
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I know, orange man bad, am I right? I wish it could just all be about how great the left is and why cant it be like the first 700 pages when other opinions were shut down and people were banned for wrong think. I like my safe space and I liked when my confirmation biases were upvoted by the same 10 people with my exact opinion. I'm important. 👶🏻
 
Winston Churchill said:

Most popular President of all time.................and the tooth fairy is real, How many bottles of fresh air would you like to order?

Maybe turn off the ABC and stop reading the Guardian if you want to live in the land of reality?

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Winston.apparently DJT holds massive rallies in stadiums....
Bidens rallies are held in his basement because of lack of interest in the Dems following...
funny how Biden got into the main job...questionable...
 
Tim Sheens said:
Rubbish again.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's opponent in his first contest got some 5% more than his total in the "popular" vote contest.

Even worse for him second time around, when his opponent got double the difference, with some 10% more votes than Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in the popularity contest.
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Who's saying anything about the totally 100% for serious most legitimate election of all time? Im just pointing out the reality of who can pull a crowd. I've not said anything about how the Democrat's can pull names out of thin air to write on election ballots.

"Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's opponent in his first contest got some 5% more than his total in the "popular" vote contest".

Its lucky the US isn't a democracy then isn't? Imagine how stuffed up the country would be if the radical Californians and New Yorkers ran all of America. Just imagine the poverty and crime rates.

Oh and if we want to go by numbers, The GOP won the popular vote and got 5 mill more votes in the house then the Dems did in the last election, just saying.

www.cookpolitical.com

2022 National House Vote Tracker

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Tim Sheens said:
Catchphrases and name-calling to the fore and the cheersquad slavishly liking it.

Meanwhile, back in the land of reality, watched the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon launch live, noting that the main children were absent. It was so lacklustre, with the doors being closed to stop the increasing dribble of people departing becoming a wave.
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Sadly many here comment on the things they don‘t understand, so they just repeat the latest Pravda’s (read their ABC/Guardian/SMH) or twitter’s proclamations.
However, I believe there is a minority that really understand their own positions, as issues are complex and hard to simply put it in a broad baskets.
For instance how could the left position be abortion, AGW, LGBTQ, anti-nuclear, anti-water transfer, pro coerced vaccination, anti mining, these have nothing to do with social pro workers, and are often against pro workers interest!
That is why, perhaps 95%, are confused and classify themselves as progressive left while in reality they argue against the workers rights and working conditions!
 
TrueTiger said:
Winston.apparently DJT holds massive rallies in stadiums....
Bidens rallies are held in his basement because of lack of interest in the Dems following...
funny how Biden got into the main job...questionable...
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Ill tell you a little about myself, through marriage I'm actually an American citizen. Over the last 30 odd years I've lived between the States - Nevada and Newcastle, my home town. I've been to 2 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon rallies 1 while campaigning and 1 while President and I can tell you the feeling is electric and nothing anyone could describe. Maybe the 2005 GF night. The feeling in the States on the streets about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is nothing like what's portrayed in the media. I see it first hand. My wife is Hispanic and I don't know anyone from her massive family or any of my buddies in the States that have ever said anything positive about the Demonrats. Yet somehow this guy 100% for sure is the most popular President of all time. Even opinion in California when I visit is split. Biden's a living joke among the people....questionable...
 
Winston Churchill said:
First 700 pages in this thread of left wing dribble and orange man bad, its not half obvious with the long overdue departure of a certain wind in the willows moderator that free speech is now allowed. Finally alternative view points are allowed without being insta-banned. Go back and look over the 700 pages at how many people with right leaning views have been banned on this thread and how many have been turned away from this forum due to past moderators own political views. This place is finally open to all opinions and the reason I joined back up after 10 years.
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Glad you did , the free speech is supplied with facts by yourself and causes others to do the same OR revert to their hurt feelings which you are demolishing WELL DONE
 
TrueTiger said:
Winston.apparently DJT holds massive rallies in stadiums....
Bidens rallies are held in his basement because of lack of interest in the Dems following...
funny how Biden got into the main job...questionable...
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Sorry but that’s a ridiculous take. Almost as bad as Lake claiming she should have won because she has more Twitter followers.

There’s zero evidence of electoral fraud having any meaningful influence on these results. You can hate Biden for whatever reason but let’s stop suggesting he didn’t win the election.

But while we’re on the topic, how big are Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon’s crowd numbers? I read a report of his people saying he got 35k in Georgia. Journalists attending reckon 5k. Photos suggest the latter.
 
Tim Sheens said:
Catchphrases and name-calling to the fore and the cheersquad slavishly liking it.

Meanwhile, back in the land of reality, watched the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon launch live, noting that the main children were absent. It was so lacklustre, with the doors being closed to stop the increasing dribble of people departing becoming a wave.
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He looked and sounded terrible. The same worn out tripe he’s been shuffling out for years for diminishing returns. First he reckons the vote is fixed, now he’s blaming China for his loss. No wonder De Santis and most of the better Republicans don’t want a bar of him.
 
Winston Churchill said:
Who's saying anything about the totally 100% for serious most legitimate election of all time? Im just pointing out the reality of who can pull a crowd. I've not said anything about how the Democrat's can pull names out of thin air to write on election ballots.

"Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's opponent in his first contest got some 5% more than his total in the "popular" vote contest".

Its lucky the US isn't a democracy then isn't? Imagine how stuffed up the country would be if the radical Californians and New Yorkers ran all of America. Just imagine the poverty and crime rates.

Oh and if we want to go by numbers, The GOP won the popular vote and got 5 mill more votes in the house then the Dems did in the last election, just saying.

www.cookpolitical.com

2022 National House Vote Tracker

www.cookpolitical.com www.cookpolitical.com
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There is only one form of popularity contest for politicians in a democracy, elections. With the best measure that proves one is not popular, is not only that they lose to their opponent, yet even moreso when they also get way less than the party they represent.

A clear and undeniable example of an individual's popularity.

Easy to state that someone is popular in a certain group/s, say Morgan Wallen amongst country music lovers for example, and the same goes for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, which nobody disputes.
 
Yossarian said:
And yet he’ll beat Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon again in 2024 assuming Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon wins the GOP nomination.
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Yeah, but Biden won't be running again. Even though it would be funny to see Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon beaten for a second time, by a man in his 80's who was already somewhat struggling with mind/memory issues the first time around.
 
Tim Sheens said:
Yeah, but Biden won't be running again. Even though it would be funny to see Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon beaten for a second time, by a man in his 80's who was already somewhat struggling with mind/memory issues the first time around.
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If he’s alive he’s basically said he’ll run. If he runs only Sanders would contemplate running against him.
 
I’m never sure what to think about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, some aspects are positive for sure but some concern me
Largely I think he plays a polarising role in the division game controlled by those in the shadows
Both left and right, red or blue, R or D, I think they are all mostly crooks and/or compromised
I do think the 2020 was outrageous with rampant fraud and there is ample evidence if you really choose to look, in my opinion from what I have seen
We saw similar this time around, and I’ll stick with Kari Lake who you raised. Again, I don’t know enough about her to have a view on her
She was paying less than $1.30 on SB initially and the social media followers is relevant, especially when there is such a significant disparity
They did everything to limit or delay the voters in her strongholds and no surprise when it took days and days to count AZ, that way they know how many votes they have to manipulate
For what it’s worth I believe Bolsonaro was dudded too being beaten by a guy convicted of corruption but somehow was out in less than two years when the backers influenced things to get him freed
The Brazilian people don’t believe it and have taken to the streets in unbelievable numbers, yet we never see it on anything resembling main stream
Conspiracies are real and this world is controlled by people who have little regard for any of us
Watch them prance around at the G20 or the WEF. And these are just the figureheads placed there and effectively owned by the controllers
My thoughts only and I’m entitled to them. I’m expressing them, not forcing them on anyone and I will not belittle those I disagree with
I also believe spiritual development plays a role in how open you are to seeing differently and I also trust by instinct as my best guide
 
Curly_Tiger said:
I’m never sure what to think about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, some aspects are positive for sure but some concern me
Largely I think he plays a polarising role in the division game controlled by those in the shadows
Both left and right, red or blue, R or D, I think they are all mostly crooks and/or compromised
I do think the 2020 was outrageous with rampant fraud and there is ample evidence if you really choose to look, in my opinion from what I have seen
We saw similar this time around, and I’ll stick with Kari Lake who you raised. Again, I don’t know enough about her to have a view on her
She was paying less than $1.30 on SB initially and the social media followers is relevant, especially when there is such a significant disparity
They did everything to limit or delay the voters in her strongholds and no surprise when it took days and days to count AZ, that way they know how many votes they have to manipulate
For what it’s worth I believe Bolsonaro was dudded too being beaten by a guy convicted of corruption but somehow was out in less than two years when the backers influenced things to get him freed
The Brazilian people don’t believe it and have taken to the streets in unbelievable numbers, yet we never see it on anything resembling main stream
Conspiracies are real and this world is controlled by people who have little regard for any of us
Watch them prance around at the G20 or the WEF. And these are just the figureheads placed there and effectively owned by the controllers
My thoughts only and I’m entitled to them. I’m expressing them, not forcing them on anyone and I will not belittle those I disagree with
I also believe spiritual development plays a role in how open you are to seeing differently and I also trust by instinct as my best guide
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What was really sus about Katie Hobbs was that she scrutanised the election while she was a sitting candidate...
Hobbs never debated Lake...
Apparently has complaints against her for racism....
and yet she was ""SELECTED"" 57% to 43%...well I'll be....
 
TrueTiger said:
What was really sus about Katie Hobbs was that she scrutanised the election while she was a sitting candidate...
Hobbs never debated Lake...
Apparently has complaints against her for racism....
and yet she was ""SELECTED"" 57% to 43%...well I'll be....
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Your first claim is false or misleading. Hobbs did nothing beyond her elected role which had zero impact on the results.

Second point, so what? It's not compulsory to debate your opponent.

Thirdly it was 50.7 to 49.3 right? Selected? By the electorate? Yes.

I don't know why it's so hard to accept she lost.
 
Yossarian said:
Your first claim is false or misleading. Hobbs did nothing beyond her elected role which had zero impact on the results.

Second point, so what? It's not compulsory to debate your opponent.

Thirdly it was 50.7 to 49.3 right? Selected? By the electorate? Yes.

I don't know why it's so hard to accept she lost.
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You know who you're conversing with here, right?
 
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