Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Earl said:
There aren't too many posters who rate both of them but the club is all in on both of them.
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they don't really have a choice so yeah - hopefully they can get the best out of them and see where the chips land.

IMHO - we'd need both of them to have stellar years to make the 8.

The competition is just too even now around that middle of the table spot.

We're basically hoping for no injuries, Sheens magic, halves to somehow find career best form, juniors to outperform and big name new recruits to fire. If that happens we're a chance... lol.

If all of those don't happen then we're basically hoping that our competition suffer worse than us in any / all of those categories where they have more injuries and their key players have a poor season or they have a big one off event like Manly did wit the rainbow jersey... if that happens we're also a chance.... lol

guess the positive in all of this is ... WE'RE A CHANCE!
 
batboy said:
You never miss a chance do you....
Seriously, We did pretty well to be in the discussion as deep as we were.
- Better than Bennet and the Dolphins - Or Gould and the Dogs.

I'd prefer a top notch FB myself....
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Never should have chased him. 3 months we could have been throwing big coin at Suaallii or someone with a big future.

He makes it too easy for me..
 
batboy said:
Suaali!! Stop it.....
😂😂😂😂

He's got a club like the Roosters held to ransom
- We'd be nothing more than a carnival ride for him.

The folks saying we shouldn't have went after a proven half like Moses are probably the same ones saying we should have thrown the sink at an unproven one like Hynes was.....
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If 1.4million doesn’t get us in a discussion then Pascoe should pack up his desk. That’s where he’s got us to.
 
weststigerman said:
Both signed by Maguire who is no longer here.

I'd also argue we signed Paps before he proved he was more than someone having 1 good year, his stock rose after he signed, much like what happened with the Dogs after they signed Burton.

Penrith were only willing to offer Api a 1 year extension. Again, he was picked for Origin after he signed.

We still have not landed anyone where there was competition for their signature: JAC, Latrell, Ciraldo, TPJ, Moses, Munster to name a few. Not surprising to see it continue after last years' debacle, but doesn't make it less true.
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No, but there’s a model there for future recruitment. Identify the value propositions ie those that have “it” but have not been locked down. Once they hit the wider market, we will need to be showing some real upswing for them to be interested.
I personally think it shows a character flaw that they are not interested in building or contributing to a rebuild but just want the possible success to be in arms reach. But I guess you can’t blame them for that, I am just talking as a disappointed WT fan that we couldn’t get one or two of them.
 
batboy said:
The folks saying we shouldn't have went after a proven half like Moses are probably the same ones saying we should have thrown the sink at an unproven one like Hynes was.....
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I agree about going for Moses even though I don't like him but I think you are wrong with Hynes in hindsight.
 
Hbom said:
The way Sheens speaks of Bula, I think a big money fullback signing is unlikely. Unless we bring home Teddy for 2 years as leader and mentor of the entire backline. Don't expect that would happen though.
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It will be interesting to see who plays fullback in Cup, and whether Bula plays in flegg or cup to start the season. And at fullback or on the wing.
 
balmain boy said:
People have been saying that for years. This season is make or break for his career.
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People have been stating this for years and he keeps kicking on. The latest update was that he was being offered a 2 year contract.

I'm really on the fence about that decision. I'm assuming it's 2 years on 600k tops. If so I'm okay with it. If it is above that I think we should just see wait and see what happens.
 
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fibrodreaming said:
Not exactly sure what you mean by “the Raiders making 60-70m a set for much of the first half”. That is not my recollection and so I went back and took note of the Raiders yardage per set up to the point when Rapana was binned (with 7:20 left in the first half). I counted the metres gained from tackle 1 to the fifth tackle kick, or until their set broke down.

By my calculation they had 15 sets by the time Rapana was marched.

They made in excess of 50m in 4 of those sets as follows: 60m on their first set from the kick off; another 60m on their 8th set (a 7 tackle set); 90m on their 11th set to score a try (which included a kick); and 69m in their 12th set.

There were 3 other sets which they started deep in their own half and made 35m twice and 45m once.

There were 2 sets they started just inside their own half and made 42m and 32m respectively.

There were 4 sets that they started around 30m from our line, or closer, and in 2 of those they were forced back and lost ground.

Our line speed was much better in our own half. And we really outmuscled them in our own quarter. Not sure if that is a tactic.

That makes 13 sets. The other 2 sets they received penalties before they had made much ground.

My impression was that we held our own and that was certainly reflected in the score when Rapana was binned.
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Fair play to you for going back and documenting the action. Perhaps i was wrong, i was multi-tasking a bit while watching
 
fibrodreaming said:
Not exactly sure what you mean by “the Raiders making 60-70m a set for much of the first half”. That is not my recollection and so I went back and took note of the Raiders yardage per set up to the point when Rapana was binned (with 7:20 left in the first half). I counted the metres gained from tackle 1 to the fifth tackle kick, or until their set broke down.

By my calculation they had 15 sets by the time Rapana was marched.

They made in excess of 50m in 4 of those sets as follows: 60m on their first set from the kick off; another 60m on their 8th set (a 7 tackle set); 90m on their 11th set to score a try (which included a kick); and 69m in their 12th set.

There were 3 other sets which they started deep in their own half and made 35m twice and 45m once.

There were 2 sets they started just inside their own half and made 42m and 32m respectively.

There were 4 sets that they started around 30m from our line, or closer, and in 2 of those they were forced back and lost ground.

Our line speed was much better in our own half. And we really outmuscled them in our own quarter. Not sure if that is a tactic.

That makes 13 sets. The other 2 sets they received penalties before they had made much ground.

My impression was that we held our own and that was certainly reflected in the score when Rapana was binned.
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Great analysis. Thanks for presenting facts to back up your opinions.
 
batboy said:
1.4 that was 1.5 and then 1.3 yesterday?
Again, I don't think it's overs to lure a goal kicking 7 from his top 4 team....
It's just not.

He's on 950k before the cap raise....
Cap goes up 25%, So does the wage of the marquee players - Especially when there's no 7's kicking around that would be seen as an upgrade.

Then you've got to get him to a club to help with a rebuild....
Parra paid 50k less for him to not have to clean out his locker.
They've overpaid moreso to keep him than we would have to poach him.
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Again I just don’t think he’s a huge upgrade on what we have at HB. I see bigger holes in our roster. He’s been playing on a flat track at Parra. Sign the next superstar instead.
 
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