Jayden "Bud" Sullivan #278

Snidest 0 said:
Reynolds was always a reserve grader playing on energy and hype!!
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I was about to say reserve graders don't play origin. Then I remember:
Robbie Farah
Michael Jennings

Except both of those were highly talented in a difficult contract spot.

Yet what's Josh Reynolds then? SOO 5/8 and a gritty defender.

Josh was starting 13 at the bulldogs. We failed to develop him and while he did not perform at our club.

Why? At what point do we stop saying "it's them" and admit "it's us".
 
AD is effectively Mbye Mark II. I don't really see any point in keeping him around. You need to have specialists in their positions, with maybe a utility on the bench, AD is not a utility, he plays OK in a few positions but not well enough when you compare with the better options in those respective positions.
 
Has Sullivan's release been announced by St. George yet? I can see why we're not in a hurry to get him here this season: injured atm and we're not challenging for the 8. Makes sense for him to rehab at his current team and start afresh with us next season. I'm excited to see how he goes. Young, but with plenty of spark.
 
tiger_scott said:
Has Sullivan's release been announced by St. George yet? I can see why we're not in a hurry to get him here this season: injured atm and we're not challenging for the 8. Makes sense for him to rehab at his current team and start afresh with us next season. I'm excited to see how he goes. Young, but with plenty of spark.
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The cut off for mid season signings has passed. He can only be a 2024 signing at this point.
 
crazycat said:
I was about to say reserve graders don't play origin. Then I remember:
Robbie Farah
Michael Jennings

Except both of those were highly talented in a difficult contract spot.

Yet what's Josh Reynolds then? SOO 5/8 and a gritty defender.

Josh was starting 13 at the bulldogs. We failed to develop him and while he did not perform at our club.

Why? At what point do we stop saying "it's them" and admit "it's us".
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Develop him ? He was 29 years old mate . That’s ridiculous! The reason you’re paying him that coin is because you don’t have to develop him . It was a shit strategy based around players like Josh , who no offence to him, was only elite because of a 5 year period in time where jack in the box grittiness, over finesse and poise , was valued higher . Mainly because of the wrestle and how bad it was early 2010s. The game passed him by quickly , and evolved right before his and our eyes just after that .
It was a shit signing , not because “we couldn’t develop him “ . It was the same reason the dogs didn’t really offer him a contract .
It was a shit strategy from Cleary . And bailed quickly before his reputation got ruined by it .
Failed to develop a 29 year old former origin player ! That’s hilarious …
 
earl said:
Jason Taylor was the club destroyer par excellence until Cleary came along. Clearly can coach but he was the worst person to be involved in recruitment and retention. At best he didn't care at all. At worst he was deliberately trying to sabotage this club.
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Exactly . I reckon he was trying to buy players who would maybe , maybe get us into 8th spot .
And after that it was all gravy for him . He knew other clubs would come calling and he wasn’t going to be here to fix the mess he created .
It was only ever a short term thing for him . And outside of the panthers . The writing was there on the way he left the warriors .
I’m sure he’s “a great bloke “ . All “great blokes “ are . Until it comes time to take the high road at the their own detriment , then IMO , rarely do “great blokes” do the greater good .
That’s just my opinion of course , but the best indication of the future is the past . And he left the warriors in a bad way , and we should have known history would repeat .
 
earl said:
Who is he better than in any position you'd play him ? To'a is a better centre, he hasn't performed well enough in the halves or fullback to be any chance in those spots and he hasn't played in the forwards which would take a massive adjustment.

It's interesting seeing promising players just not be able to develop their games. I'm not saying it's the clubs fault either.
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Yeah I agree with you - he’s not better
 
Spartan117 said:
They have Ben Hunt in the number#7.

If he can get healthy then its a good pick up for the Tigers. Very creative half
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He's listed as a 5/8 and looks like Dragons have preferred Amone there but have a few players like Bird who could play 6. Still has 2 years left on his contract?
 
twentyforty said:
He's listed as a 5/8 and looks like Dragons have preferred Amone there but have a few players like Bird who could play 6. Still has 2 years left on his contract?
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Amone is a bigger body and a stronger ball carrier than Sullivan. Assuming Hunt stays, I think they've made the right call keeping Amone over Sullivan.

That doesn't mean he can't be a good 7 for WT though.
 
weststigerman said:
Amone is a bigger body and a stronger ball carrier than Sullivan. Assuming Hunt stays, I think they've made the right call keeping Amone over Sullivan.

That doesn't mean he can't be a good 7 for WT though.
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He certainly hasn’t been able to be the main guy at Saints. He has a bigger role when Hunt isn’t playing.
 
Needaname said:
I meant more he hasn’t had the opportunity to. Not questioning his ability.
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Yeah good point. He's hasn't had a consistent run for the Dragons due to Hunt being there.

He could step straight in an own the 7 for WT or he could be another Brooks. Time will tell, IMO he will succeed if he can stay injury free and get a consistent run in 1 position.
 
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