Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

tony soprano said:
It's a bit of dammed if you do dammed if u don't situation with Lee for the board.

If you change Lee, then effectively you are changing future plans again, in that any new chairman may want to change Lee's plan.

All the people arguing Lee can't stick to a plan asking the board to sack lee is asking the exact same thing that are unhappy with the board about.

I think it's right to back Lee, Fulton, benji fully for the next 3 years. There can be no more jumping and must follow the course they are on.
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The point here is him accepting another 3 year term while a review of the entire operation is about to start.
Surely he could have graciously said he'd wait to accept until after the review?
Obviously his massive ego meant he couldn't even consider this.
Also makes you think the Directors are crawling to him now in case the report points the finger at them.
 
The independent enquiry has asked Benny Elias for his input.
Say what you want about Lee and Pascoe but they've never been dumb enough to ask imbecile Benny's opinion.
We're talking about a bloke who has never uttered a coherent sentence or had an intelligent thought, who has no direct knowledge of how the club's run. This is the opinion they're seeking.
As feared all this farce enquiry will achieve is sabotaging Benji's off season and our recruitment.
But hey, the podcasters got to big note themselves and their 3 sycophant listeners got to congratulate them.
That's all that really matters right.
 
Todd Packer said:
The independent enquiry has asked Benny Elias for his input.
Say what you want about Lee and Pascoe but they've never been dumb enough to ask imbecile Benny's opinion.
We're talking about a bloke who has never uttered a coherent sentence or had an intelligent thought, who has no direct knowledge of how the club's run. This is the opinion they're seeking.
As feared all this farce enquiry will achieve is sabotaging Benji's off season and our recruitment.
But hey, the podcasters got to big note themselves and their 3 sycophant listeners got to congratulate them.
That's all that really matters right.
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That's pretty concerning if true.
 
weststigerman said:
Well that’s a bitter sweet set of announcements.

Keeping Lee and his ego is disappointing and means we’ll continue to leak and focus on self preservation. I don’t know why this couldn’t wait until after the review.

Keeping Bula though is great news. Fingers crossed he bucks the trend of long term contracts that backfire.
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Was the board involved in this re-signing? Who knows. You can bet the family jewels that it would have been their fault if Bula had gone elsewhere.
 
Todd Packer said:
The independent enquiry has asked Benny Elias for his input.
Say what you want about Lee and Pascoe but they've never been dumb enough to ask imbecile Benny's opinion.
We're talking about a bloke who has never uttered a coherent sentence or had an intelligent thought, who has no direct knowledge of how the club's run. This is the opinion they're seeking.
As feared all this farce enquiry will achieve is sabotaging Benji's off season and our recruitment.
But hey, the podcasters got to big note themselves and their 3 sycophant listeners got to congratulate them.
That's all that really matters right.
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All opinions should be looked for and i would hope they would be,i have no time for Benny but his input and all other sources should be looked at.It is part of the data gathering procedure so i have no problem with it even though i would never take his advice
 
Todd Packer said:
The independent enquiry has asked Benny Elias for his input.
Say what you want about Lee and Pascoe but they've never been dumb enough to ask imbecile Benny's opinion.
We're talking about a bloke who has never uttered a coherent sentence or had an intelligent thought, who has no direct knowledge of how the club's run. This is the opinion they're seeking.
As feared all this farce enquiry will achieve is sabotaging Benji's off season and our recruitment.
But hey, the podcasters got to big note themselves and their 3 sycophant listeners got to congratulate them.
That's all that really matters right.
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Oh dear.

The bloke that has, post football, amassed a net worth in excess of several million from several business ventures, has never had an intelligent thought, aye?

Remarkable.
 
Todd Packer said:
The independent enquiry has asked Benny Elias for his input.
Say what you want about Lee and Pascoe but they've never been dumb enough to ask imbecile Benny's opinion.
We're talking about a bloke who has never uttered a coherent sentence or had an intelligent thought, who has no direct knowledge of how the club's run. This is the opinion they're seeking.
As feared all this farce enquiry will achieve is sabotaging Benji's off season and our recruitment.
But hey, the podcasters got to big note themselves and their 3 sycophant listeners got to congratulate them.
That's all that really matters right.
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So your happy to get a 3rd spoon then, generally if it’s not broken you don’t fix it right, so what your saying is let’s keep the same board in place and let them keep doing what they have done for the past 6 or so years cause there doing a great job, pleaseeeeeeee tell us all what has this board done right in the past 6 years
 
Vicious said:
There is no doubt Wests Tigers have been well and truly screwed by a long list of previous coaches and recruitment managers who apart from Madge didn’t have the clubs best interests at heart.
I believe that’s why it has been decided to employ as many people as possible with a strong Wests Tigers connection, sick of being back stabbed by outsiders.
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This is why I have respect for Madge as good or bad as he appeared at no time did you ever think that he had the best intentions for weststigers
 
cktiger said:
The point here is him accepting another 3 year term while a review of the entire operation is about to start.
Surely he could have graciously said he'd wait to accept until after the review?
Obviously his massive ego meant he couldn't even consider this.
Also makes you think the Directors are crawling to him now in case the report points the finger at them.
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Or 💵💵
 
cktiger said:
The point here is him accepting another 3 year term while a review of the entire operation is about to start.
Surely he could have graciously said he'd wait to accept until after the review?
Obviously his massive ego meant he couldn't even consider this.
Also makes you think the Directors are crawling to him now in case the report points the finger at them.
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The review will say that there is a conflict of interest in having your major sponsor as chairman of the board and recommend this conflict is addressed. Given Lee’s new 3 year deal, this recommendation will either be ignored or Lee will cease being the major sponsor whilst remaining chairman of the board. If the latter, it’s a brilliant business/political move by Lee to retain all the power whilst saving himself all the money he formerly tipped in.
 
Red88_Tiger said:
Part of the bula article intrigued me. Lee in relation to Cleary leaving

It was a difficult period there after, it took a long time to stabilise cap and roster. This year was the final year, I believe, of that transition into a new era
Basically says 5 year hangover from cleary
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So a 5 year hangover from not make the finals for the previous 7 years?
 
Todd Packer said:
The independent enquiry has asked Benny Elias for his input.
Say what you want about Lee and Pascoe but they've never been dumb enough to ask imbecile Benny's opinion.
We're talking about a bloke who has never uttered a coherent sentence or had an intelligent thought, who has no direct knowledge of how the club's run. This is the opinion they're seeking.
As feared all this farce enquiry will achieve is sabotaging Benji's off season and our recruitment.
But hey, the podcasters got to big note themselves and their 3 sycophant listeners got to congratulate them.
That's all that really matters right.
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Yeah on 360 last night, Benny mentioned he was invited to be interviewed as part of about 50 interviews the consultants are doing & have started. Earlier Pooper & Caryannis (who had lunch with Lee yesterday) from the DT alluded to media, players, ex players, coaches, former coaches, members, fans being on the list of interviews to build wide-ranging stakeholder viewpoints. I wonder if any of the WT Podcast guys have been invited. @helmesy @cochise ??
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
Yeah on 360 last night, Benny mentioned he was invited to be interviewed as part of about 50 interviews the consultants are doing & have started. Earlier Pooper & Caryannis (who had lunch with Lee yesterday) from the DT alluded to media, players, ex players, coaches, former coaches, members, fans being on the list of interviews to build wide-ranging stakeholder viewpoints. I wonder if any of the WT Podcast guys have been invited. @helmesy @cochise ??
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Lestronge said:
Great idea . I’m not sure though how much he’s been in the trenches in regards to the day to day of nrl life though . He’s apparently a real good administrator for the nrl . I’m not sure on his credentials , but I’d be looking at him for CEO rather than GM. I’d say that’s closer to his wheelhouse in 2023 .
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I'm resigned to the fact that our Board won't change (or will not change significantly) even after this independent review. However, if the image/reputation of the club is to change, there needs to be change at the top level of administration. Regardless of Pascoe's results with government & corporate, we need a leader who commands respect, leadership & enhances the brand image of the club now.

I would be putting the feelers out to Wayne Pearce for this role as you mentioned @Lestronge . This could be another chapter in the Wayne Pearce contribution to the club, much like when he was a player & club legend Keith Barnes was CEO (yes I know different corporate times). But I think Wayne would bring what we need and help unify stakeholders & supporters on this 'dawn of a new era' as Lee calls it.

Interested in your thoughts @balmain boy as I know you've alluded to some ideas for change.
 
Todd Packer said:
What a ridiculous methodology to ask 50 random people with no day to day knowledge of how the club is run for their meaningless opinions.
It smacks of a purely political window dressing exercise. I expected an examination of how the club operates with confidential interviewing of staff.
What a joke.
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Sounds like some Balmain boys bouncing around ideas..

Where's our invitation?

It's not a Balmain/Wests thing to them though.

It's all about them.😉
 
weststigerman said:
I don’t agree with Lee staying but asking Benny about it is stupid. He’s going to be dirty that the owners didn’t sell the club to him and no doubt he’s trying to throw more dirt at the club so his group can come back and try and by the club for even less money.
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This is exactly my issue with consulting Benny, I don't doubt that he's a clever man. He was very open about his disappointment at not being able to purchase the club, and has since held a bias against the club - just look back to when he was telling Mitch not to sign with us not so long ago. I would rather that impartial people are interviewed.
 
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