Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Nonotmeagain]

I think Pearce would be a great addition to the board. Not sure he has the required experience or skill set for CEO but would be mad to not have him back involved in the club.

If you attend one of his seminars that he runs for business people and management he knows what he is talking about as far as business acumen and how to make companies successful. His background in playing, coaching and business would make him a prime candidate for the position but he won't be there.

 

[Camel2281]

I read that Drew Hutchinson is off contract and gone from the Roosters. Bloke is no superstar but he's certainly covered a lot of gaps for the chooks for a long time and always shown tonnes of ticker.

He'd be a perfect low cost signing (or secondary cap signing now they don't need to wait until round 10 to play NRL). I'd have him in the 14 jumper every week

 

[weststigerman]

I read that Drew Hutchinson is off contract and gone from the Roosters. Bloke is no superstar but he's certainly covered a lot of gaps for the chooks for a long time and always shown tonnes of ticker.

He'd be a perfect low cost signing (or secondary cap signing now they don't need to wait until round 10 to play NRL). I'd have him in the 14 jumper every week

I think he's headed to the dogs.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Only you'd try to put a positive spin on the fact that 1/4 of the coaches are experienced.
(And the experience one isn't even the main guy)

You hang onto that...
Should get you about as far as your "Aren't you excited to see attacking Tigers footy again"
did about this time last year...

So you've "adjusted " your narrative to concede Morris is an experienced coach. That is your modus operandi. Two years as an NRL coach, assistant with two leading clubs and great success with the Sharks' academy. He was my choice to takeover from Maguire. All in all, you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who would say or write a bad word about Morris. And then there is you. Don't change Batboy you are always amusing.

It is a beautiful day in the Central West. Orange is a great town

 

[Kaito]

Don't change Batboy you are always amusing.

Batboy, he won't change, don't worry haha

 

[Tiger_Yoshi]

I read that Drew Hutchinson is off contract and gone from the Roosters. Bloke is no superstar but he's certainly covered a lot of gaps for the chooks for a long time and always shown tonnes of ticker.

He'd be a perfect low cost signing (or secondary cap signing now they don't need to wait until round 10 to play NRL). I'd have him in the 14 jumper every week

Dogs got him

 

[Lestronge]

Different position and Fulton has experience in the role at Manly. The appointment has to have experience in RL.

Doesn't rugby have its own boys club?

?? He’s hardly in the boys club of rugby mate . That’s his big negative in that game. He’s Extremely competent but has a strong personality , which rubbed the boys club up the wrong way .
I think he’d go alright at it . Bearing in mind the Aus RU coach has very similar roles and responsibilities, scouring talent , running a basket case board with agendas , historical nepotism, wealthy influencers and hangers on with agendas , trying to develop talent , dealing with player managers using him as leverage for a better deal .
To me if there was another organisation that’s just as much of a headache as wests tigers , you’d have to say that Aus rugby would be it .

 

[pawsandclaws1]

?? He’s hardly in the boys club of rugby mate . That’s his big negative in that game. He’s Extremely competent but has a strong personality , which rubbed the boys club up the wrong way .
I think he’d go alright at it . Bearing in mind the Aus RU coach has very similar roles and responsibilities, scouring talent , running a basket case board with agendas , historical nepotism, wealthy influencers and hangers on with agendas , trying to develop talent , dealing with player managers using him as leverage for a better deal .
To me if there was another organisation that’s just as much of a headache as wests tigers , you’d have to say that Aus rugby would be it .

Good post. I am a supporter of promoting from within and rewarding success. Our junior development staff have done well and I would like something to happen within this space in terms of the GM role. That is the context in which I made my comment.

 

[supercoach]

You can all the coaches in the world, but without player with talent it’s not going to make a difference. Bellyache is not going to make Nofo faster. I guess every player has 10% improvement in them that could be harnessed by a great coach. Sadly half our roster needs at least 20% to be competive.

Where Morris has form is with the young kids coming into grade and the NRL, and that is the basket we have all our eggs in. So fingers crossed he works his magic at Concord

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

I wrote previously, this is a significant period for the club. We need the new GM to be across our juniors, our junior districts, the roster, to have good relations with the rugby league community and so forth. There is no time for someone to be eased into the appointment. The appointee must be up to it from day one. An internal appointment such as Betsey would have corporate knowledge valuable in the position.

Depending on what the GM Football role will entail within our club, I think an internal progression of Matthew Betsey makes sense.

Our juniors are critical to the ongoing success of the club and Betsey knows them better than most from this Pathways Head role. He has an MBA plus over a decade's experience at Cricket Australia so would bring strong sports business skills to the role.

How he manages people (personalities/egos) & relationships, I'm not sure but thinking that would be a big & important part of the role too (i.e. Benji & Fulton).

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Depending on what the GM Football role will entail within our club, I think an internal progression of Matthew Betsey makes sense.

Our juniors are critical to the ongoing success of the club and Betsey knows them better than most from this Pathways Head role. He has an MBA plus over a decade's experience at Cricket Australia so would bring strong sports business skills to the role.

How he manages people (personalities/egos) & relationships, I'm not sure but thinking that would be a big & important part of the role too (i.e. Benji & Fulton).

Plus Kimmorley could perhaps transition into Betsey's Pathways role.

 

[balmain boy]

Plus Kimmorley could perhaps transition into Betsey's Pathways role.

Kimmorley's a coach, doesn't want an admin role.

If he gets a coaching offer anywhere he's gone, if not he stays with our nrlw side.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Depending on what the GM Football role will entail within our club, I think an internal progression of Matthew Betsey makes sense.

Our juniors are critical to the ongoing success of the club and Betsey knows them better than most from this Pathways Head role. He has an MBA plus over a decade's experience at Cricket Australia so would bring strong sports business skills to the role.

How he manages people (personalities/egos) & relationships, I'm not sure but thinking that would be a big & important part of the role too (i.e. Benji & Fulton).

Great post. I may be wrong but a big part of the role could involve engagement with parents and young players to get them onboardwitht WTs. Our engagement with the MacArthur and Campbelltown districts has improved significantly. We need to continue but also improve and imo the new GM has a critical role. Someone with knowledge of the juniors to me is a must

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I rate Morris - You're turning what I said into something else..

But Morris has just come from a club where he worked under an experience coach as head coach
and 2 experienced assistants - Hornby much more than Burgess (But both experienced)

So including his experience - He was at a club with 3 other experienced coaches...
Now he's at a club where he is the 'only' experienced coach.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

Morris was at the Sharks for two years as head coach during the difficult transition period when Gallen retired. He also had a couple of personalities in the playing group who had to be managed. Most would agree he did a good job and was unlucky not to be retained.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

As we know buzz has strong influence on who WT hire.

FWIW, buzz doesn't rate O'Neil at all and is a big fan of chekka.

They also noted chekka has a coaching bug and not sure if the GM role would satisfy that

What are people's thoughts on these appointments


- chekka coaching director get on ground level with all coaching staff

- Simon Cook CEO wests Leagues and WT

- pascoe CCO wests Leagues Club and tigers?

I dunno about Cook moving to Ceo of both considering he left the board, presumably to concentrate on WA. I can see however Pascoe leaving the CEO position but not totally leaving the fold, maybe being retained solely to look after the corporate side of things. He may not have been a good CEO but he has handled the money side of things well i guess.
But that would be my guess for this review very little changes but a shuffling of the deck chairs to satisfy the masses. The death knell has been ringing for Pascoe for ages and he still survives so he must have something going for him. If he's in the background not making football related decisions i don't care if he hangs around i just don't want to hear from him again.

 

[crazycat]

Morris was at the Sharks for two years as head coach during the difficult transition period when Gallen retired. He also had a couple of personalities in the playing group who had to be managed. Most would agree he did a good job and was unlucky not to be retained.

More then that, anyone remember Shane Flanagan at the Sharks.
Taking on a 16th placed side.
He said he had to buy a U-haul to move Gym equipment from a closing sale in Melbourne to get the Sharks some kind of decent Gym.

Rookie coaches can make it. You just need to pick the right people.
NFI what is going on at Souths but Morris clearly has the goods. He did a fair job as head coach and kept the team mid roster.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

* Jordan Miller in top 30!

Recent NRL debutant Tallyn Da Silva is one of five players who will be upgraded from Wests Tigers pathways program to the NRL Top 30 in 2024. Da Silva will join Josh Feledy, Brandon Webster-Mansfield, Jordan Miller, and Lachlan Galvin in the top squad from November 1.

Pathways players on the rise

As season 2023 draws to a close, we take a glance at some Wests Tigers young guns to look out for in 2024 and beyond.

www.weststigers.com.au

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

*Room then has to be made in top 30 for these 4 development players in '25.

Kit Laulilii, who made his NRL debut alongside Feledy in Round 27, will join the Wests Tigers Development list in 2024, before joining the Top 30 in 2025.

The 2024 NRL Development list will also include Chris Faagutu, Solomone Saukuru and Tony Sukkar, who are yet to make an appearance in the top grade. Faagutu, Saukuru and Sukkar will join the Top 30 in 2025, as part of the club’s strategic succession plan.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

* Great news

Onitoni Large (16) and younger brother Ashton (14) are the youngest players included in the club’s long-term planning and are scheduled to experience the NRL program as they transition from their school and junior representative programs.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

* Train & Trialists for pre-season (some, not all)

A further group of players will be provided opportunities during the NRL pre-season later this year as part of an extended NRL squad from November 6. This group of players will include several local juniors including Luke Laulilii, Heath Mason and Will Craig (Westerns Suburbs), as well as Keenan Lawandos and Cayne Nicholas (Balmain).