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If it is all about safety
Motorcycle - Gone
Hang gliding - Gone
Sky diving - Gone
Mountain biking - Gone
They have to be banned, where is the god damned seatbelt on the motorcycle, come on let’s get it done!
 
Mate I am so glad you were able to get some help when you needed it.
WTs don't so much for any of our mood I guess... It's really an extraordinary circumstance something you love has been so disappointing for us for so long.
Very important to get yourself feeling well and positive if yiu csn
.. Glad you found someone to help you and your most welcome to private message me any time as most know I'm going thru a tough time too for the foreseeable future
Stay strong @BZN
 
It’s the same with wearing helmets on bikes; who bears the brunt of the costs induced to the public healthcare and social security when things go wrong? Food for thought, perhaps if you weren’t wearing a seatbelt and now you’re a paraplegic or brain damaged you can incur the health care expense out of pocket.
Fair point Tiger-ferret. I choose to wear a helmet these days but was always comfortable with bearing responsibility for the outcome when I didn't wear one.
Do you hold the same view regarding public health & social security costs for those that smoke, drink & overeat?
 
It should be survival of the smartest not survival of the dumbest.
As long as they don’t hurt or effect anyone else let the idiots skip close to the edge.
I don’t free-ball it when wearing jeans bcoz a zipper has a lot of teeth. Ya get me?
Button fly on jeans, Butts
 
If it is all about safety
Motorcycle - Gone
Hang gliding - Gone
Sky diving - Gone
Mountain biking - Gone
They have to be banned, where is the god damned seatbelt on the motorcycle, come on let’s get it done!
Next they'll ban fireworks!!!
 
If it is all about safety
Motorcycle - Gone
Hang gliding - Gone
Sky diving - Gone
Mountain biking - Gone
They have to be banned, where is the god damned seatbelt on the motorcycle, come on let’s get it done!
How would the Government pick our pocket if we outright banned these things?
 
It’s the same with wearing helmets on bikes; who bears the brunt of the costs induced to the public healthcare and social security when things go wrong? Food for thought, perhaps if you weren’t wearing a seatbelt and now you’re a paraplegic or brain damaged you can incur the health care expense out of pocket.
Yes exactly...I think the same attitude should be taken with fatties that eat themselves into diabetes, heart conditions and the rest of it...The cost to the tax payer due to obesity is enormous. There are way more fatties in Australia than people who are paraplegics or brain damaged from not wearing seatbelts or helmets on bikes...just to put it into perspective.

But, let's go with your solution for a moment....if we want to start cherry picking who can and can't access public health, then why not get rid of Medicare altogether or make it optional and cut peoples taxes if they choose to opt out? Why should one pay into a system that doesn't guarantee them care when they need it? Then you won't have to pay for other peoples irresponsible decisions. Let's just hope you don't make a little mistake one day that excludes you from care.

It's easy to find a reason to not help someone because they weren't making the right choices, but I think it's a slippery slope.

What's my point?....if you like public health, you have to accept the good with the bad, because whether you like it or not, you are already paying for others that make terrible decisions with their health and you will be until the day you die.
 
Nobody objects to wearing a seatbelt, pretty much 100% of people wear them.

Speaking for myself at least, the objection is to the Orwellian surveillance technology proposed to solve this non-issue.
Why is it that you can cut through and see exactly what the argument is, but people are focusing on a totally different argument?

You hit the nail on the head very succinctly.

To add...I would guess that most people instinctively reach for the seatbelt the minute they get in the car now? Do we really need millions of dollars worth of surveillance for this? Are people really suggesting that this money couldn't have been spent in a more effective way to benefit the people? I'm shocked there is so much push back on this...I'm willing to bet all these cameras cost more than the 40 million we need to revamp Leichhardt Oval...
 
And it just keeps on growing, every aspect of our lives is more and more monitored and more and more controlled every year that passes.

RIP the care-free larrikin, replaced by the all-powerful finger-waving nagger.
Case in point....WTF is an "e-safety commissioner"?

Did anyone ask if I want to be part of this "e-safety"? Can I opt-out? Is it at all possible I can manage my own "e-safety" the way I see fit?

Fkn nanny state
 
I am amazed that anybody would object to wearing seatbelts when in a car,I am old enough to remember the death toll's when i was growing up in the 60's.Every year the death toll in NSW ALONE seemed to be in excess of 1000,when seatbelts were introduced it started to reduce the toll and even more so after it became compulsory and this was when the population was far smaller than it is now.There are many people who have been born since then who would not even be alive today if compulsory seatbelts were not introduced as one of their parents would have died in a car crash before having children
Not one person in this thread has objected to wearing seatbelts.
 
Button fly on jeans, Butts
I’ll
6 beers deep, and ya broke the seal on the fourth. Now ya busting again with 5 mins to halftime, tigers down by 2 and in their red zone, so ya hang on. We score, a try and ya skull the rest of beer 7. Now ya run for the dunny trying to unbutton on the way getting the top one, but now you’re standing in front of the dunny trying to hold on for dear life, trying to get four more buttons undone.
Or, zip…..ahhhh.
Anyway I reckon my original post still stands, free balling with a zipper is either brave or stupid.
Or maybe some people like the thrill of living dangerously and free balling with jeans has that element. It’s like swimming in the ocean at Esperance, some days ya gunna go home, some days ya gunna get bit.
 
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