That's fine,
They're both reserve graders and will be handy additions to the squad from 25-30...
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That's fine,
They're both reserve graders and will be handy additions to the squad from 25-30...
He has a contract , don’t think he will give it up
hank37w
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My ride on mower's got a V twin Kawasaki, goes pretty good. 🤣
Oh my god , how many times have we heard this , we have super stars coming throw , over the last 10!years we have not seen many , AT present we need seasoned 1st graders to at least help bring throw maybe 1-3 kids because , been real only 1 in a hundred only make it , and that comes from the panthers play book and they should know
GNR4LIFE
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Sheens said 2 years ago we have the best crop of juniors in the country coming through. I think he might have been full of it.
pawsandclaws1
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Feledy can hit a gap, is very strong and has the great habit of try scoring. He needs to improve his defence which can be said of most young outside backs. We need genuinely fast specialist wingers who complement strong centres. Lack of genuine pace has been our Achilles heel.
AceofSpades
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Seems O. larges management might not be happy
www.zerotackle.com
Over 12 teams show interest in Wests Tigers junior
“He’s the best 16-year-old I’ve ever seen.”
www.zerotackle.com
BlackWhiteGold
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They are all good with plenty of potential.
We just crave that outside back who can rise in grade and just own their opposition with x-factor, speed, skill & power. None of the top bunch have done that yet except glimpses from Mason.
Makasini & Large (if he plays centre or fullback) are the two that could!
WestsTigers4VR
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I don’t believe we have the best juniors in the country coming through but I don’t think we are far off to be fair. As for the notion the kids arent performing well in cup, I’d assume that’d be a given. 99% of the players in NSW cup are eligible for Jersey Flegg so there is no older figure in the cup team to help out. A lot of these players have jumped from Matts to Cup or Ball to Cup so they have been fast tracked towards first grade and the few we have seen have held their own.
I mean look at our bench last game, I believe it had a total of 4 first grade games experience. Also good to note that the only difference between first grade and Cup is the speed not the physicality.
The only juniors I can really see being 100% first graders are Tallyn Da Silva, Jordan Miller, Navren Willet, Heath Mason. You’d find a common theme with these blokes is most of them have already tasted first grade (besides Nav). Wasn’t too long ago that we were locked in a bidding war with AFL for Willet before he signed with us.
As for the younger juniors I’d say that this current crop of U/17s are just as, if not more talented than the old crop. The likes of Ali Karnib, Heamasi Makasini, Alex Isdale, Onitoni Large, Ashton Large and Jhevon Lele. I haven’t watched Matts in a while but I haven’t seen a better crop of juniors coming through before. Again even more so than the undefeated Matts side. I know Onitoni Large has been in the news but I promise it is no understatement to call him one of the best 16/17 yr olds we have seen. He and Makasini would be the number one on my lists of retaining and it would seem Richo has the same idea.
I understand you’ve heard this all before but there is no hyperbole in what I’ve just said I can promise you that. Please let this be the future🙏🏻🤣
I mean look at our bench last game, I believe it had a total of 4 first grade games experience. Also good to note that the only difference between first grade and Cup is the speed not the physicality.
The only juniors I can really see being 100% first graders are Tallyn Da Silva, Jordan Miller, Navren Willet, Heath Mason. You’d find a common theme with these blokes is most of them have already tasted first grade (besides Nav). Wasn’t too long ago that we were locked in a bidding war with AFL for Willet before he signed with us.
As for the younger juniors I’d say that this current crop of U/17s are just as, if not more talented than the old crop. The likes of Ali Karnib, Heamasi Makasini, Alex Isdale, Onitoni Large, Ashton Large and Jhevon Lele. I haven’t watched Matts in a while but I haven’t seen a better crop of juniors coming through before. Again even more so than the undefeated Matts side. I know Onitoni Large has been in the news but I promise it is no understatement to call him one of the best 16/17 yr olds we have seen. He and Makasini would be the number one on my lists of retaining and it would seem Richo has the same idea.
I understand you’ve heard this all before but there is no hyperbole in what I’ve just said I can promise you that. Please let this be the future🙏🏻🤣
weststigerman
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I think we've definitely overdone the switch to bringing through juniors and offered top 30 spots to player that don't warrant it.
IMO there are only a few juniors we simply cannot lose and should be happy to burn top 30 spots on:
Galvin, Makasini, Da Silva, Large brothers
The others: Feledy, Faagatu, Laulilli brothers, Miller, Mason, Karnib, Isdale etc. are players we'd like to keep but aren't worth promoting before they are ready.
IMO there are only a few juniors we simply cannot lose and should be happy to burn top 30 spots on:
Galvin, Makasini, Da Silva, Large brothers
The others: Feledy, Faagatu, Laulilli brothers, Miller, Mason, Karnib, Isdale etc. are players we'd like to keep but aren't worth promoting before they are ready.
BlackWhiteGold
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These journos really embelish stories don't they. He's not captain of the Junior Wallabies, a few years from it.Seems O. larges management might not be happy
Over 12 teams show interest in Wests Tigers junior
“He’s the best 16-year-old I’ve ever seen.”
He made the U16 Wallabies at the end of last season - https://www.rugby.com.au/news/rugby-australia-announces-australia-u16s-squad-2023119
So Zerotackle has rehashed the DT article from a few days back.Seems O. larges management might not be happy
Over 12 teams show interest in Wests Tigers junior
“He’s the best 16-year-old I’ve ever seen.”
He has a contract with us, so no club nor his manager should be discussing anything at this point. His path is not blocked in any way, shape or form. All those Rugby highlights are of him at inside centre. There is no doubt he has blinding speed and his early first grade career should be in the outside backs, where we are clearly lacking. Having said that, he has had his injury issues this year and needs to get his body ready to play against men before worrying about his path to the NRL being blocked.
liltiger
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If he's good enough he will get in there in the future.Seems O. larges management might not be happy
Over 12 teams show interest in Wests Tigers junior
“He’s the best 16-year-old I’ve ever seen.”
balmain boy
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Meh he was contacted by Buzz and gave a couple of lines to feed the troll.Seems O. larges management might not be happy
Over 12 teams show interest in Wests Tigers junior
“He’s the best 16-year-old I’ve ever seen.”
I highly doubt Sheens promises the Large boys we won't sign any halves or hookers over the next 5 years to make sure that whenever you're ready there's a spot free in first grade. Like seriously, it's beyond stupid
balmain boy
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He has to be dumped to reserve grade for the rest of the season.
Promote Lobb or someone ahead of him, make him feel the humiliation of reserve grade and let him seep in it.
He'll get paid his full contract either way, he might as well just leave and play first team elsewhere.
balmain boy
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It's not though.
Having highly overpaid, poor performing morons taking up spots in the top 30 and even our 17 is bad for culture. You can already see Galvin complaining that we gave Sullivan such a huge payrise when he didn't do anything to earn it, so now he wants one too. Players who are happy to go through the motions in reserve grade picking up their paychecks is bad for business. ANd most importantly, if they don't go it means we can't sign ANYONE new for next season and are stuck with the same muppets happy to come last again.
Tiger-ferret
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It’s a balance. If Naden and Sullivan are our back up depth then it’s not too bad…just gotta be paid accordingly which they probably aren’t (ie over paid for that squad role)
balmain boy
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In the last 10 years, never. We haven't had any superstars coming through since the big 4.
The things i other clubs all have good juniors coming through too, we're not alone there. Other clubs also sign first graders for the now, so they youngsters are pushed to perform higher by these established players and aren't simply giftwrapped a first grade spot.
balmain boy
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Looks like the club has jumped the gun and re-signed Doueihi. Very disappointing.
We just give out contacts wily nily to everyone. He has not earned his extension. He's played one game, 60 mins in Cup. How on earth could we make the decision to sign him given he has no defined position in first grade, and hasn't proven his body can withstand the rigours of first grade after 3 ACLs.
Very disappointing, i thought the culture of the club was supposed to eb changing. Still jobs for the boys though it seems.
We just give out contacts wily nily to everyone. He has not earned his extension. He's played one game, 60 mins in Cup. How on earth could we make the decision to sign him given he has no defined position in first grade, and hasn't proven his body can withstand the rigours of first grade after 3 ACLs.
Very disappointing, i thought the culture of the club was supposed to eb changing. Still jobs for the boys though it seems.
Tom Shines
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Geez .. talk about optimism ..
They want to stay put and continue to get a good pay check ..that no one else will give them …it’s the club’s fault at the end of the day … but we don’t have to pretend it’s a great outcome ..
