Maybe. Who knows? Who cares?
What is known is that he hasn't performed for us for whatever reason. Part of the reason WT is a mess is that we've overpaid for underperformance so often.
Stefano Utoikamanu #241
- Thread starter Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan
- Start date
What is known is that he hasn't performed for us for whatever reason. Part of the reason WT is a mess is that we've overpaid for underperformance so often.
Halbrowne61
Well-known member
True V but I’d like Farahs coaching replacement to be around for that discussion !
Wonder if there’s movement behind the scenes on that appointment coz it could be real important for us moving forward.
Agree with you 100%. To be fair, I'm sure Richo's trying but he hasn't got top quality to sell.
BAGNF05
Well-known member
Didn’t we get rid of them at the end of last year?
Tom Shines
Well-known member
You’re the one asking questions about his value .. that will be determined by others it appears
Halbrowne61
Well-known member
Maybe he could outline his visit to the Uk and what has happened out of that( broad based , he doesn’t haven’t to mention names), apart from doing a strange deal with an old South’s mate ?
Bert & Ernie scarier than our pack, Bags!!!
Yeah mate. Nothing I say or think will gave any bearing on the outcome. Will the extra dollars make him run harder, push to make that crucial tackle? Maybe a different coach will unlock his much talked about potential.All unknown at this point. Again, what is known is that he is unable or unwilling to put in for us.
mtd#2
Well-known member
Hopper on NRL 360 saying to put a line through the tigers for Stef. Saying it'll be the dogs or storm
Buttface
Well-known member
I would love for us to come out with a Pole extension before mighty boy makes up his mind.
Who doesn’t like having their Pole extended?
Halbrowne61
Well-known member
Are you on the drink BF, or medication ?
BAGNF05
Well-known member
Everyone is getting a bit concerned about a lack of movement on here.
jirskyr
Well-known member
Well the thing is that Stefano's performances in 2023-2024 have not been great. It's reasonable to be critical of him. If you can only achieve your best by being coached by Craig Bellamy, arguably one of the all-time great coaches, then you have to ask serious questions.
Personally I am a Stefano booster and I think he would do better if Tigers were performing better as a team. Certainly wouldn't hurt if he had more experienced coaches. Also if Stefano had better support at prop; Klemmer was bought to support the front row and is seriously down on form.
So it's not about whether Bellamy rates Stefano, it's about whether Stefano can perform to a good consistent level in the average NRL scenario, or if he can only do it by joining already strong systems. Nobody is doubting that Stefano is a first-grade quality player.
It's already been proven that Bellamy can get good simple performances from many (not all, but many) players. I am sure Bellamy backs himself to do it with Stefano. But saying "Bellamy thinks he can get Stefano to perform" really has little to no bearing for clubs that are not run by Craig Bellamy.
Secondary to all this is the discussion of salary. The rumours are of very significant salary requests, in the area of the top performing players in the entire NRL. If true, nobody can genuinely say that Stefano is at that level currently.
jirskyr
Well-known member
It's almost like they stay out of the hunt for players until Laundy guarantees shares in one of his hotels.
Buttface
Well-known member
Meds. And lots of em on the lazy boy at the moment.
I was at a funeral today, had to sit out the front in the wind on one of those aluminium seats that are as cold as ice and vibrate the whole length if you fart on them. Anyway my back is killing me and Mrs BF is watching Emily in Paris on Netflix so I’m a little bored too.
Is it that noticeable?
jirskyr
Well-known member
You forgot the Pooper warning.
We might as well ask that Octopus that guesses FIFA matches if we are going to consider what Pooper thinks.
jirskyr
Well-known member
You know what I miss? I miss the days of being able to buy value-price props who will just go out there and be a bit of a mongrel. I mean the Shane Walker types, Jason Lowries, Skandos etc.
I'm a bit bored of all these extra-athletic young Goldilocks props who want a million bucks and can only perform if the conditions are just right. There's a dearth of solid tough props these days, to the point where even in Origin you have Blues picking Jurbo and Maroons picking Cotter (in fact they officially started Felise Kaufusi at prop in Game 3).
Because I was thinking about the Stefano money and would love if Tigers could just move on and instead buy two 400-500K no-nonsense props who will turn up every week, rip and tear, put a little fear into the opposition and just get a simple job done. Just a couple of mongrels to collect a decent paycheck and put in respectable performances every week.
I'm a bit bored of all these extra-athletic young Goldilocks props who want a million bucks and can only perform if the conditions are just right. There's a dearth of solid tough props these days, to the point where even in Origin you have Blues picking Jurbo and Maroons picking Cotter (in fact they officially started Felise Kaufusi at prop in Game 3).
Because I was thinking about the Stefano money and would love if Tigers could just move on and instead buy two 400-500K no-nonsense props who will turn up every week, rip and tear, put a little fear into the opposition and just get a simple job done. Just a couple of mongrels to collect a decent paycheck and put in respectable performances every week.
Halbrowne61
Well-known member
Tom Shines
Well-known member
I don’t know the bloke or what motivates him … Gould and the best coach in the game now rate him apparently…and it looks like they are still bidding against each other …
Staff online
-
DempsModerator