Sack Marshall

If he doesn't improve us he'll be gone mid-year
next year. Coaching structure will change to
give him a crack. He's got a big ego though, not
sure how responsive he would be with SNR coach
Not sure we’ll go through the mid year split again. If he gets next season imo he’ll get all season especially with Luai here.
 
Richo has sacked plenty of coaches.

When the time comes, It will be suggested to Benji that it’s in his best interests to take up other opportunities within the organisation.

And I’d be telling him the stress is getting to him and all that psychological stuff.

He’s being sacked for his own good, not ours.

I’d tell him it’s hurting us more than him and ……hope he buys it.
 
Quality coach and quality human..who wld have inevitability enticed Nathan across..0nly if if his path was blocked at pamthers
It wasnt..and tts what it came down to
In all honesty though, Pasco did the right thing punting Taylor for Cleary, he just had no idea Cleary would walk out on him. The club made the right move. It was Clearys departure that completely stuffed the club. That was the catalyst for Pasco and the boards downfall. Cleary had a squad he had playing well on bad deals that were left for the club and Maguire to deal with. Had Cleary stayed we would be in a completely diffrent position now. Imo.
 
In all honesty though, Pasco did the right thing punting Taylor for Cleary, he just had no idea Cleary would walk out on him. The club made the right move. It was Clearys departure that completely stuffed the club. That was the catalyst for Pasco and the boards downfall. Cleary had a squad he had playing well on bad deals that were left for the club and Maguire to deal with. Had Cleary stayed we would be in a completely diffrent position now. Imo.
I keep being amazed seeing Taylor in the Dogs coaches box as Ciraldos right hand man. Must be a better attack coach than we thought as Ciraldo in charge of D( which was his role at Penrith).
 
Not sure we’ll go through the mid year split again. If he gets next season imo he’ll get all season especially with Luai here.
I think it depends on how we’re going results wise, and if we have an experienced person there to take the job even if it was on an interim basis. Right now Morris would be given the job if Benji was sacked at some point next season given he’s had the job before. But if he’s done after this season and we have 2 new assistants who haven’t had the job before of being a head coach, he might be given the whole season regardless.
 
I’ve been saying since he was appointed that the Benji 5 year contract with a guaranteed shot as the head coach of first grade was an atrocious decision and unprecedented.

IMO the “real” rebuild cannot begin until we get a real head coach.

You can’t say just get Benji some experienced assistants. Few, if any, experienced assistants will want to work under a novice head coach.

Similarly, you can’t say let Benji step back to an assistant coach role under an experienced head coach so he can learn. An experienced head coach will want to choose his own assistants and I can guarantee you he will not want a novice as an assistant.

The preceding two paragraphs tell us all we need to know.

Richo should have a short list of candidates ready to go and Benji should be sacked within a week of our last game so we can move forward. A mid season sacking next year will waste another season.
 
I’ve been saying since he was appointed that the Benji 5 year contract with a guaranteed shot as the head coach of first grade was an atrocious decision and unprecedented.

IMO the “real” rebuild cannot begin until we get a real head coach.

You can’t say just get Benji some experienced assistants. Few, if any, experienced assistants will want to work under a novice head coach.

Similarly, you can’t say let Benji step back to an assistant coach role under an experienced head coach so he can learn. An experienced head coach will want to choose his own assistants and I can guarantee you he will not want a novice as an assistant.

The preceding two paragraphs tell us all we need to know.

Richo should have a short list of candidates ready to go and Benji should be sacked within a week of our last game so we can move forward. A mid season sacking next year will waste another season.
Agreed. We are just wasting time now, it ain't turning around with this setup.
 
I’ve been saying since he was appointed that the Benji 5 year contract with a guaranteed shot as the head coach of first grade was an atrocious decision and unprecedented.

IMO the “real” rebuild cannot begin until we get a real head coach.

You can’t say just get Benji some experienced assistants. Few, if any, experienced assistants will want to work under a novice head coach.

Similarly, you can’t say let Benji step back to an assistant coach role under an experienced head coach so he can learn. An experienced head coach will want to choose his own assistants and I can guarantee you he will not want a novice as an assistant.

The preceding two paragraphs tell us all we need to know.

Richo should have a short list of candidates ready to go and Benji should be sacked within a week of our last game so we can move forward. A mid season sacking next year will waste another season.
The club has no choice really but to give Benji at least one more season if they want to show some form of stability. Sacking another coach after one season again isn’t going to get experienced coaches to come to us knowing they’ve only got one year to turn things around otherwise they’ll be out the door themselves.

I get the frustration and you do have some points. But we also aren’t going to show change if Richo does the exact same thing that led to the previous admin of losing their jobs after one season. The club is already seen as a basket case and sacking another coach after one year again is basically making it even more a basket case.
 
I’ve been saying since he was appointed that the Benji 5 year contract with a guaranteed shot as the head coach of first grade was an atrocious decision and unprecedented.

IMO the “real” rebuild cannot begin until we get a real head coach.

You can’t say just get Benji some experienced assistants. Few, if any, experienced assistants will want to work under a novice head coach.

Similarly, you can’t say let Benji step back to an assistant coach role under an experienced head coach so he can learn. An experienced head coach will want to choose his own assistants and I can guarantee you he will not want a novice as an assistant.

The preceding two paragraphs tell us all we need to know.

Richo should have a short list of candidates ready to go and Benji should be sacked within a week of our last game so we can move forward. A mid season sacking next year will waste another season.
Assuming we sign 1 or 2 more quality players for 2025, it would be nice if we could have a coach as well. As you said, it’s just going to be another wasted season, waiting for a coach to deliver results he’s not capable of
 
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The club has no choice really but to give Benji at least one more season if they want to show some form of stability. Sacking another coach after one season again isn’t going to get experienced coaches to come to us knowing they’ve only got one year to turn things around otherwise they’ll be out the door themselves.
Ordinarily I’d agree, but its bordering on malpractice persisting with him in the role.
 
The club has no choice really but to give Benji at least one more season if they want to show some form of stability. Sacking another coach after one season again isn’t going to get experienced coaches to come to us knowing they’ve only got one year to turn things around otherwise they’ll be out the door themselves.

I get the frustration and you do have some points. But we also aren’t going to show change if Richo does the exact same thing that led to the previous admin of losing their jobs after one season. The club is already seen as a basket case and sacking another coach after one year again is basically making it even more a basket case.
Depends on who is available//atm no-one
But can change quickly in NRL
 
Ordinarily I’d agree, but its bordering on malpractice persisting with him in the role.
You also won’t attract any decent coach to come here knowing they’ll be sacked if the club is not finals bound after the regular season is finished. Since 2022 we’ve had 4 different people had the position of head coach. I know Noddy was only on an interim basis but he still had the job during that period of time. Trying to recruit a 5th head coach in a 4 year period just screams basket case.
 
Depends on who is available//atm no-one
But can change quickly in NRL
I don’t see any other coaches getting the sack at this stage. The only one who might get some pressure is Adam O’Brian, and I wouldn’t exactly be looking at him to replace our current coach when he’s not doing that well himself the whole time he’s been the Knights coach. He’d do better at some things then Benji would, but he’s never set the Knights on fire the whole time he’s coached them.
 
Take it for what it is worth.

Marshall is not going to be the coach after next season unless significant improvement is shown. There is a feeling at the club that coaching strategy and in-game decision making is not good enough, and that players may develop faster and at a higher standard under a different coach. Players are fond of him but competitiveness and winning are seen as far more important.

Stefano leaving was also seen as a clear comment on the perceived lower quality of coaching at the club compared to others.

Richo knows that no coach could come in with this roster and have success. He also knows he couldn't come in and sack the biggest Tigers of them all, Marshall and Farah, without getting the nose of some old egos in the club out of joint. Farah has already chosen to leave, putting the heat on Marshall to surround himself with more proven coaches where he has been reluctant in the past.

There is hope that Luai will make a noticeable impact next season, especially on the younger players, and stave off any thoughts they may have of leaving like Stef did. If he doesn't, there will be clear reasons to sack Marshall, as much of an indictment on the club as it would be for providing such a long contract in the first place. Don't think that candidates are not being identified in the event that it happens.

Heard this from a someone who has known things and whose name you'd know.

It all makes sense tbh - we are vile and have not been competitive in most matches this season.
This is all very basic stuff and far from a scoop.
 
We are a basket case. It’s indisputable. I suppose the question is what do people thinks makes us not a basket case sooner? Persisting with a coach who can’t do the job or ripping the band aid off and getting a new coach? Nobody knows for sure but my preference is for the latter.
 
You also won’t attract any decent coach to come here knowing they’ll be sacked if the club is not finals bound after the regular season is finished. Since 2022 we’ve had 4 different people had the position of head coach. I know Noddy was only on an interim basis but he still had the job during that period of time. Trying to recruit a 5th head coach in a 4 year period just screams basket case.
Another thing, the longer we persist with him, we’re not going to attract players. Sure, he got Luai here, but again, that was all done over the off season, before a game had been played and he was in his honeymoon period. Since the start of the year, I struggle to see what the appeal would be for opposition players to come and play under him. Two of our own key players are walking out early on their contracts at the end of the year. Benji’s fault? Who knows. Either way, it’s not a good look for him.
 
wot the hell does a coach do -front the media ,then what?if you cant play 4 yourself or your mates,wot hope does a coach have,all this crap about Papii etc players turn 2 fertilizer here is just that,talk,
 
Another thing, the longer we persist with him, we’re not going to attract players. Sure, he got Luai here, but again, that was all done over the off season, before a ball had been kicked off and he was in his honeymoon period. Since the start of the year, I struggle to see what the appeal would be for opposition players to come and play under him. Two of our own key players are walking out early on their contracts at the end of the year. Benji’s fault? Who knows, but it’s not a good look for him.
I agree it’s not a good look, but the whole organisation isn’t going to be seen as a popular destination if they’re changing coaches again in a very short period. Unless the club got Bennett or Bellamy (which will never happen) no player is gonna consider us even with a semi decent coach if they know that coach won’t be there for more than a year.
 

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