Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

weststigerman said:
I think you’re right. I do think if he does well again the Madge haters will just say he had an elite roster despite that same roster running 12th this year.

I didn’t think he’d come back here but he’s another good coach off the table should Benji continue to struggle next year.
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Yea ah lets see:
Adam Reynolds
Corey Oates
Ezra mam
Kotoni Staggs
Reece Walsh
Selwin Cobbo

Carrigan
Haas...

Seriously Jock Madden is cover for this team and a first grader in ours. It's an elite roster and a grand final team.
 
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crazycat said:
Yea ah lets see:
Adam Reynolds
Corey Oates
Ezra mam
Kotoni Staggs
Reece Walsh
Selwin Cobbo

Carrigan
Haas...

Seriously Jock Madden is cover for this team and a first grader in ours. It's an elite roster and a grand final team.
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I don't fundamentally disagree that Brisbane has a good roster, but in what world does Jock Madden get picked over Luai, Galvin or Fainu? He's Brisbane's third best half and would be our fourth.
 
Tucker said:
Yeah that is true, however these guys are professionals. They’d train for this example and adapt quickly. The guys from the 50’s were not as multifaceted as todays elite athlete is. The block plays alone would result in a lot of tries.
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I’m not so sure the modern players would adapt as quickly as you assume.

In the old days there was a genuine contest for the ball and the forwards spent a huge amount of time practising scrummaging.

Hookers were selected to win the ball. There were not many hookers in those days that were much in the ball running stakes, but that didn’t matter. Their job was to win the ball and defend in the middle.

I read Ian Walsh’s biography years ago. The shenanigans that went on in the scrums in those days was unbelievable. Those old timers were tough as nails and they knew how to play dirty. What’s more, the old-time front rowers had been practicing scrummaging since they were boys.

I don’t believe that a modern pack could just rock up after a few practice sessions and compete against a quality pack from the old days. I don’t believe they could compete.

The reason I emphasise scrums is that if you cannot win your share of the ball, you would struggle. Especially with unlimited tackles.

This was brought home to me as a small boy watching the Magpies v Balmain at LO. Our first hooker (Kelly) was unavailable and the replacement was getting a bath in the scrums. It didn’t take Balmain long to see what was happening. Balmain started kicking for touch, we would get the head and feed, and they would win the ball. Rinse and repeat up the field. When they got into our red zone, they held the ball (unlimited tackles) until they scored.

It is difficult to win a game of footy without the ball.

If I was the coach of an elite team from the old days versing a team of modern day players, that is the tactic I would use.

The modern day players would be favourites to win, but the old times might get close if they could starve them of the ball.
 
weststigerman said:
Sounds good on paper. Why did they finish 12th?

Jock Madden doesn’t make our 17 either next year.
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Yea, he probably doesn't. But I feel he would be playing for us this year.

The Donkeys were versing Melbourne or Penrith, blast I can't remember who and it was Origin or something so it was all B grade players. The lineup looked better then our first grade.

They Finished 12th. But they have a lot of players who are tops in their positions. Haas, Carrigan, Walsh. etc.
 
crazycat said:
Yea, he probably doesn't. But I feel he would be playing for us this year.

The Donkeys were versing Melbourne or Penrith, blast I can't remember who and it was Origin or something so it was all B grade players. The lineup looked better then our first grade.

They Finished 12th. But they have a lot of players who are tops in their positions. Haas, Carrigan, Walsh. etc.
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Did Madge sign Jock when he was here?
 
jirskyr said:
Exactly, it's rhyming slang and should not specifically offensive. Unless Americans find "Yank" offensive, but that just comes from Yankee. Term was very common during the war years to refer in a positive way to Americans.
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Not sure the space would exist for the block plays. Wests under Fitzgerald in the early 60’s were the first team to play right on the gain line. They had ( according to my 99 year old father) great success with it because there was no reaction time. The lack of time and space would challenge the modern players in both attack and defence!

If the modern players had 6 months to prepare for it, change fitness requirements, and practice competitive scrumming then they would certainly win.
 
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