Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

First time he got clear air from cleary’s signings he got Api and Ice, but didn’t get to coach them. He also brought Steph to the club
Tried to get others but didn’t get them over the line


“Madge wasn't the answer because Lee and Justin were complete duds and he couldnt recruit big players on his own.”
I’m talking about Latrell … and the others.

I like Madge don’t get me wrong and he did sign those players you’re right

I’m arguing against those that say Madge was a dud.

But Madge had / has a stigma that he’s too tough… it’s hard for him to sign players when the club is a dud like ours because why would they come and get flogged by Madge to not compete for the 8.

Madge in a powerhouse club works - they can sign and retain more players bc they chance of winning a premiership is greater
 
I’m talking about Latrell … and the others.

I like Madge don’t get me wrong and he did sign those players you’re right

I’m arguing against those that say Madge was a dud.

But Madge had / has a stigma that he’s too tough… it’s hard for him to sign players when the club is a dud like ours because why would they come and get flogged by Madge to not compete for the 8.

Madge in a powerhouse club works - they can sign and retain more players bc they chance of winning a premiership is greater
I won't refute everything you've said because, quite frankly, I agree with a lot of it.

But there are far, far more criticisms on Madge than him simply being too tough.

His lack of technical nous or adaptability to the modern game or modern defences was just one amongst a litany of critiques laid at his feet during, not only his time here, but his exit from Souths as well.

I like Madge. Quite a bit in fact.

But there are legitimate shortcomings, or at least there has been, in his coaching approach and style that go beyond him simply not having the squad around him.
 
No chance! He would have been sacked very quickly at any other club on his performance. He is not a coach. He is a learner and we need someone who can coach with expeirence.


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He has now experienced an awful lot in the last few years that will give him a lot of experience he needs to become a good coach, And all you people that keep bagging him should remember how hard our club tried to get another Coach, but had great difficulties trying to get someone willing to have a go, at least Benji was willing to give it a go, and Benji and Richo are definitely on the right track in their efforts to make this work.

And we, as supporters of the Wests Tigers should be supporting Benji And Richo in what they are doing, instead of trying to destroy them.
 
First time he got clear air from cleary’s signings he got Api and Ice, but didn’t get to coach them. He also brought Steph to the club
Tried to get others but didn’t get them over the line


“Madge wasn't the answer because Lee and Justin were complete duds and he couldnt recruit big players on his own.”
Spot on.

We had a good coach but bad admin.

Now we have the opposite problem IMO. Benji may not be a bad coach in the long term, but he’s way off the pace at the moment.
 
I won't refute everything you've said because, quite frankly, I agree with a lot of it.

But there are far, far more criticisms on Madge than him simply being too tough.

His lack of technical nous or adaptability to the modern game or modern defences was just one amongst a litany of critiques laid at his feet during, not only his time here, but his exit from Souths as well.

I like Madge. Quite a bit in fact.

But there are legitimate shortcomings, or at least there has been, in his coaching approach and style that go beyond him simply not having the squad around him.
Agree… guess we’ll find out at the broncos.

If he lasts 3 yrs or more and has success we can say that it was actually the tigers lol
 
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He has now experienced an awful lot in the last few years that will give him a lot of experience he needs to become a good coach, And all you people that keep bagging him should remember how hard our club tried to get another Coach, but had great difficulties trying to get someone willing to have a go, at least Benji was willing to give it a go, and Benji and Richo are definitely on the right track in their efforts to make this work.

And we, as supporters of the Wests Tigers should be supporting Benji And Richo in what they are doing, instead of trying to destroy them.
Bullshit. To all of it.
 
Yeah Benji is the issue alright, anyone who couldn't excel with Daine Laurie, Douehi, Will Smith, Wakeham, Tamou, Gildart, Peachey, Musgrove, Nofo in their starting squad must be crap. That lineup is so amazing it has finals written all over it.
Gildart was pretty much Bateman before Bateman - junky looking slow shit player - and English too!
 
dont agree but respect your position.

I think our forward pack with the right coach was top 8... Api, Stef, Bateman, Paps, Klem... just poor coaching killed their spirits and they (3 of them) wanted to leave.

Certainly we were on par with the Dolphins squad and look what bennet did with them -- also flanno at the dragons -- both teams nearly made the 8... that's what i think a good coach wouldve done for us. close to making the 8... not two wooden spoons.
Our squad was not even close to Dolphins. How many origin reps did they have, compared to us?

Question answered.
 
The fact Marshall isn’t gone already shows nothing has changed around here.
That's horeshit mate, he had a bottom 4 roster and zero depth. To climb off the bottom of the ladder in such circumstances would have required a miracle. You're only as good as your cattle, we have upgraded our roster and hopefully more signings to come, judge him in 2025.
 
Yeah Benji is the issue alright, anyone who couldn't excel with Daine Laurie, Douehi, Will Smith, Wakeham, Tamou, Gildart, Peachey, Musgrove, Nofo in their starting squad must be crap. That lineup is so amazing it has finals written all over it.
I'm not bagging Benji for that.

I'm bagging him for saying in the post game press conference to the spoon bowl where we got spanked by 40 points, that "it's my fault for telling them to throw the ball around, but I'm a rookie coach and still learning" ... what player manager, parent, player or anyone affiliated with the game wants to go to a rookie coach? and also one that one week tells the team to play tight, the next week to play what you see, etc... no consistency.

I'm bagging him for poor game plans that dont get executed, for playing eyes up ad-lib football when the top teams play control field possession kick to the corners and emphasise defense, i'm blaming him for having the worse disciplined team in the comp, i'm blaming him for being exactly what he is -- a rookie coach with no experience that has is too arrogant to step back into an assistant role that is too afraid to put a decent assistant around him for fear of being found out for not having a clue... i'm also bagging him for being in all the training sessions... like what other coach does the drills with the players ALL the time.

I'm bagging him for telling the players that family is the most important thing in the world -- when clearly everyone knows this -- but also NO OTHER COACH says it -- they say FOOTBALL is the be all and end all -- because that's how you win comps. you need complete dedication and committment to winning -- and when you do that, you make more money which feeds your family and youre a better person because youre happy so you're a better family person to be around.

Benji is smoking the peace pipe man.

He's a media kid trying to emulate he's 75yr old 700 game mentor coach who can do that because he has presence, and is respected by players because of his history.

The players DO NOT RESPECT BENJI AS A COACH....

listen to Galvin and others "we want to do it for benji" "benji is a good bloke" -- when players have to defend the coach and say that they want to do it for them because they are a good bloke -- they've lost the respect of the players. players feel sorry for them ---

players do not feel sorry for bennet, cleary, robinson, bellamy -- they respect them.

sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... but honestly LOOK UP!!!! we've won two spoons and got spanked the last game. it's not hard to see.
 
Madge will be under the pump in Brisbane the moment he walks in the door …

The old boys are gunning for him already … he better get off to a good atart…he won’t get a honeymoon period to find his feet..
Yep, good call.

Alfie Langer released a press statement saying he was going to “reconsider his position.”

If I’m Madge, ideally, Alfie’s time directing play from the middle of the defensive line is over.

But that is, of course, courting more off field controversy.
 

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