twentyforty
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Do you think there could be something not quite right about hiring a $200k player to show 2 $5.5k players how to play the game?
What am I missing?
Jayden "Bud" Sullivan #278
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What am I missing?
We have had a total transformation since Bud was signed from how our club is run to who our halves and even the 14 could be in 25.
When Bud signed Luai, Galvin and Richo weren’t known about for 25 only Fainu was, AD missing most the season, we had Pascoe and Lee panicking about their positions mixed with Fulton playing a survival game and Brooks had punted us.
$500k for a half that a club views will get regular first grade games is on the lower scale $$$ wise.
The key here is it shows how desperate we were when Brooks said no. You don’t make big decisions when emotion is running hot as they often turn out bad.
Bud can play, he does have talent, he needs the right coach & environment around him. For $200-$250k a season I would be very surprised if a club didn’t take a punt on him. Most clubs are focused on the larger $$ roster deals right now & some clubs are focusing on roster spot free up like us.
When Bud signed Luai, Galvin and Richo weren’t known about for 25 only Fainu was, AD missing most the season, we had Pascoe and Lee panicking about their positions mixed with Fulton playing a survival game and Brooks had punted us.
$500k for a half that a club views will get regular first grade games is on the lower scale $$$ wise.
The key here is it shows how desperate we were when Brooks said no. You don’t make big decisions when emotion is running hot as they often turn out bad.
Bud can play, he does have talent, he needs the right coach & environment around him. For $200-$250k a season I would be very surprised if a club didn’t take a punt on him. Most clubs are focused on the larger $$ roster deals right now & some clubs are focusing on roster spot free up like us.
twentyforty
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Certainly Tim Sheens saw a future for Galvin in the 3 years he was with us and signed him to a top 30 contract in November 23.
It was only Eels who didn’t recognise Galvin had an NRL future.
When Bud was signed in November 23, Luai was having a secret meeting with Benji at his home.
Furthermore, it’s ludicrous to assert that Richo, who agreed to accept the interem CEO position in early December 23 had not been in talks with the club months earlier. He would have been knee deep in it.
Do you remember in that December 23 door stop Richo told us Tigers were pulling out of AFB talks and praising Luai?
C’mon mate, let’s call it as it looks. The Pascoe camp needed a win and rushed into the Bud signing.
It was only Eels who didn’t recognise Galvin had an NRL future.
When Bud was signed in November 23, Luai was having a secret meeting with Benji at his home.
Furthermore, it’s ludicrous to assert that Richo, who agreed to accept the interem CEO position in early December 23 had not been in talks with the club months earlier. He would have been knee deep in it.
Do you remember in that December 23 door stop Richo told us Tigers were pulling out of AFB talks and praising Luai?
C’mon mate, let’s call it as it looks. The Pascoe camp needed a win and rushed into the Bud signing.
weststigers
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He was the best choice at the time and times have changed. It was also at a time when the perception was that no player would sign with us and it was seen as a win.
We've since signed Luai, Turuva, Skelton, Hunt and Bird, so the idea we can't sign anyone seems to be getting less airtime.
We have recruitment opportunities to make 2025 a success, but we are blocked from making signings by players that are 3rd and 4th string taking places in our top 30.
If 3 or 4 players go, then I'd say we'll keep Bud. It's just Bud gets thrown around because he could probably be useful at another team and you need to price him attractively to get a quick result.
A dozen games? In front of Latu?
twentyforty
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This is the Wests Tigers way. The board had a recruitment manager at the time, Fulton. Pascoe was also negotiating with Bud. Neither of those 2 knew that Benji and Richo were in talks with Luai. The old saying "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" may well apply.
I doubt if those board members, who secretly parachuted Fulton into recruitment knew what Benji and Richo were up to, otherwise they could have jeopardised the operation. LOL
Was Pascoe sacked or did he leave? I'm hoping he was told to resign otherwise we have more pain to come.
Huh ? Pascoe was gone before Richo was involved so they def wernt negotiating at the same time. Sullivan signing was announced on August 17th, Sheens was only let go the day before.
hank37w
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Latu has been going down for long periods of time.
weststigers
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Latu has the 14 right now. Any half that goes down will be replaced by Latu. After Latu it's bird. Bench replacement will be TDS or Mason. Sullivan is way down the pecking order as you correctly point out.
crazycat
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Did we?
I seriously never saw it.
I like watched A LOT of tv. More then average and definately late night stuff.
Meh, dumb American companies. Trying to push Australians to drink crap American lightweight beer. They are still pushing even after Tooheys and Fosters gets replaced by Squire and 4 Pines. Beer is so much better now.
twentyforty
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Contract dates mean very little. Richo had a contract starting date of 1st January, but there he was telling us on 13 December that AFB was no longer in our sites and Luai was our main target.
clontarfkid
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Nah..im saying well have both luai and Galvin out sometime,particularly with soo
It's a key position..
Latu, Bird and Api would all be chosen in the halves before Sullivan.
Tucker
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Not Api, his defence there is very poor indeed.
TigerBlood93
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Bud didn’t play a dozen this year, you really think he plays that many with more options next year ?
crazycat
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Ah, from memory Bud was signed before Sezer. Which was McDaniel?? Time.
Pre Fulton. Fulton would not have signed Bud because he knew who was available in the Manly sheds.
Bud was a Sheens signing from memory. Guessing Benji got some input too and they all watched him guide St George in demolishing us one game.
crazycat
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Oh Bud will play more games next year...
At some other team. Guessing he will sign on as a cheapie for Melbourne, Easts or some team as cover half. Cowboys even possible.
It will be a 130k contract and we will pay the rest of the loading to get rid of him.
Tito Santana
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Winston Churchill
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Has this flog been flogged off to SL yet?
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