Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon

[Winston Churchill]

Not interested in changing your mind Winnie. I don't think you're the kind of person who changes their mind in an internet discussion with some random bloke. I mean that as a compliment

I was just pointing out to the original comment that this changing climate is not part of some natural cycle. I was also hoping to make the point to you that you can believe that climate change is a major issue and not be some mindless pearl clutching elite, which is your characterisation.

Im not a climate denyer denier deniar? how do you spell that word?

I agree 100% that climate change is a thing and humans have had an impact. No doubt im with ya there. The part i dont like is how its used for fearmongering, profiting and political capital while said politicians seemingly dont give 2 shits. Im old enough to remember the great freezing scare of the 70s, when that wasnt a thing it became global warming scare in the 90s, when that wasnt a thing it became the all encompassing generic 'climate change' term to stop the ludicrous flip flopping. Its a little on the nose and pretty obvious BS.

Also i cant take a word you say serious when you say something so blatantly false as

changing climate is not part of some natural cycle

I guess the Ice age wasn't a thing there bud? Do you realise we are still in an Ice age? The world naturally should be much much warmer than it is today.

 

[Ron Brodrick's Spirit]

I know how you feel, its probably like when I see anyone with a BLM slogan. Good for the goose, good for the gander.

BLM, how cringe was it when the mental midgets in Australia took up that cause as their excuse for bad behaviour.

 

[Winston Churchill]

BLM, how cringe was it when the mental midgets in Australia took up that cause as their excuse for bad behaviour.

When you have nothing to offer, when you add no value to society, you have to make up first world problems and give yourself a cause to feel important. Im just there for the lols.

 

[Snidest 0]

BLM, how cringe was it when the mental midgets in Australia took up that cause as their excuse for bad behaviour.

Yeah - no relevance in Australia...

Quantifying an Australian crisis: Black deaths in custody

Official statistics recorded 106 deaths in custody last year, but these figures underestimate the scale of the crisis, says a University of Melbourne expert.

pursuit.unimelb.edu.au

Indigenous Deaths in Custody: Recommendations of the Social Justice Commissioner

Departments of Corrective Services use the Australian National Classification of Offences to record offences for which prisoners are sentenced or remanded. [4:39]

humanrights.gov.au

Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This may be an ethics free-zone - but the disinformation and wilful ignorance is pathetic!

 

[Betterdays22]

Im not a climate denyer denier deniar? how do you spell that word?

I agree 100% that climate change is a thing and humans have had an impact. No doubt im with ya there. The part i dont like is how its used for fearmongering, profiting and political capital while said politicians seemingly dont give 2 shits. Im old enough to remember the great freezing scare of the 70s, when that wasnt a thing it became global warming scare in the 90s, when that wasnt a thing it became the all encompassing generic 'climate change' term to stop the ludicrous flip flopping. Its a little on the nose and pretty obvious BS.

Also i cant take a word you say serious when you say something so blatantly false as

changing climate is not part of some natural cycle

I guess the Ice age wasn't a thing there bud? Do you realise we are still in an Ice age? The world naturally should be much much warmer than it is today.

I havent called you that, you were prerry clear in saying humans had an impact, I was referring to the degree to which you think it is an issue, which you implied that you don't think it is. I sure as hell arent going to change your mind on that.

I said this changing climate, not well worded but I mean this current cycle, these changes we are seeing now. Ofcourse the climate changed before the Industrial era. Thats the 2nd time have left a few words off a quote which entirely changed the context.

Anyway, as i said im not trying to be combative or change your mind, just pushing back when you misrepresent mine or others position.

 

[Winston Churchill]

I havent called you that, you were prerry clear in saying humans had an impact, I was referring to the degree to which you think it is an issue, which you implied that you don't think it is. I sure as hell arent going to change your mind on that.

I said this changing climate, not well worded but I mean this current cycle, these changes we are seeing now. Ofcourse the climate changed before the Industrial era. Thats the 2nd time have left a few words off a quote which entirely changed the context.

Anyway, as i said im not trying to be combative or change your mind, just pushing back when you misrepresent mine or others position.

Appreciate the discourse and clarification.

 

[Spartan117]

Im not for my slaves are here to pick cotton mentality.

The picking the fruit argument is a terrible one and an immoral one and a losing one. Big corp using exploitive labour for bigger profits is not a winning strategy, the people voted for this to happen in the election.

7 million men are currently unemployed in the US, and plenty of ex government workers are soon available lol. A very small percentage of all illegal immigrants are fruit picking, most have ended up in large cities like NY LA and Chicago on welfare.

I don't trust CNN to be unbiased source of truth anymore.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Do you have the same thought when you see a BLM slogan?

I’ve never seen one here personally

 

[Winston Churchill]

I don't trust CNN to be unbiased source of truth anymore.

They get less views than repeats of SpongeBob on the cartoon network. Nobody has taken CNN serious for about 12 years.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Really, A hat has that much power?
Especially one with nothing offensive written on it?
Maybe its the individual whose opinions are being projected onto the person wearing the hat that is the actual tool...

Ehhh i’m not the aussie who’s wearing american propaganda 🤣

 

[Winston Churchill]

I’ve never seen one here personally

Not sure of your age. Were you alive in 2020?

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

It's the speed at which climate change is occurring.

We know several facts and can put them all together:
1. There have not been humans on Earth before

2. Humans are the only known civilisation on Earth to enter an industrial age, so we haven't had a past cycle with industrialised people in it

3. Fossil-fuel based industry vastly increases the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. It does this by burning (releasing) the carbon that has been stored over millions of years, but releasing it in decades.

4. CO2 is a greenhouse gas that traps heat in the atmosphere

5. As levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increase the average temperature increases. BTW this can be proven, we can measure both CO2 levels and temperature

6. Average higher temperatures cause greater extremes in climate, particularly because hot air can hold more moisture and therefore water distribution is more chaotic

It's not some snap decision or thought, people have been collecting climate data for a long time now.

Mate I appreciate your well thought out post, think of this for a while when the asteroid hit the earth and wiped out the dinosaurs imagine the global warming that would have happened, the fire at first and then the impact winter that occurred, when that passed some scientists believe it triggered centuries of scorching temps, now if this did happen all those years ago and the earth recovered how do we know what our situation now is actually going to produce in another century that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do something about it that would be ignorance

 

[Tucker]

Ehhh i’m not the aussie who’s wearing american propaganda 🤣

Either am I.
If I saw someone wearing one Id assume they were American and proud that their movement was back in power.
I wouldnt think they were a tool, thus my point which you have sort of proven correct.

 

[The Chad]

The average temperature of the Earth during the Jurassic period was around 16.5°C (61.7°F). This is warmer than the current average temperature, which is about 14°C (57.2°F).

 

[Winston Churchill]

Mate I appreciate your well thought out post, think of this for a while when the asteroid hit the earth and wiped out the dinosaurs imagine the global warming that would have happened, the fire at first and then the impact winter that occurred, when that passed some scientists believe it triggered centuries of scorching temps, now if this did happen all those years ago and the earth recovered how do we know what our situation now is actually going to produce in another century that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do something about it that would be ignorance

Food for thought

Current CO2 levels are 420ppm, when the dinosaurs were around it was 9,000ppm and yet the global temp was just approx 8-10C warmer. The planet is currently in an interglacial period of the Holocene era. Its completely natural for the Earth to be far warmer than what it is today. We are just products of the last 300K years in a goldilocks period. We mean nothing to a 4 billion year old Earth.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Food for thought

Current CO2 levels are 420ppm, when the dinosaurs were around it was 9,000ppm and yet the global temp was just approx 8-10C warmer. The planet is currently in an interglacial period of the Holocene era. Its completely natural for the Earth to be far warmer than what it is today. We are just products of the last 300K years in a goldilocks period. We mean nothing to a 4 billion year old Earth.

Thankyou Winston you have a keen mind

 

[supercoach]

My personal view Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is so dangerous to the world in so many ways. Climate change,trade,health and our economy.

A person like Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon can only flourish if he controls the media and sadly he has 90% of it in his back pocket. He can pedal all his false information and pork pies without being challenged. He creates fear with false information and than pretends to be the strongman to solve the problem.

I think he is running down the US economy so many mid to small time investors will go to the wall and his zillionaire backers will clean up before restoring the economy.

Lastly his links with Eldelstein have been brushed under the rug and all his sexual predator acts. A terrible human being but he has convinced 50% of the voters to support him, it’s a crazy world we live in with both mainstream media and social media being such powerful tools if you can control them

 

[Snidest 0]

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The RC was in 1987 and concluded in 1991 - but the latest report was 2023!

Quantifying an Australian crisis: Black deaths in custody

Official statistics recorded 106 deaths in custody last year, but these figures underestimate the scale of the crisis, says a University of Melbourne expert.

pursuit.unimelb.edu.au

 

[Tucker]

My personal view Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is so dangerous to the world in so many ways. Climate change,trade,health and our economy.

A person like Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon can only flourish if he controls the media and sadly he has 90% of it in his back pocket. He can pedal all his false information and pork pies without being challenged. He creates fear with false information and than pretends to be the strongman to solve the problem.

I think he is running down the US economy so many mid to small time investors will go to the wall and his zillionaire backers will clean up before restoring the economy.

Lastly his links with Eldelstein have been brushed under the rug and all his sexual predator acts. A terrible human being but he has convinced 50% of the voters to support him, it’s a crazy world we live in with both mainstream media and social media being such powerful tools if you can control them

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has the media in his pocket....LMFAO.
Its 2025 not 2010.

 

[weststigers]

He has hit on an issue though- China & India big, big polluters get less scrutiny, 'restrictions' and targets for reduction via the World body than the western nations.

That's the point. The impact on pollution by Western countries is minimal.

We are spending huge amounts of arguably wasted dollars trying to tackle less than 1% of the problem, when the main offenders spend nothing and don't take it seriously.

We are going broke jumping at shadows. Time to focus the energy on where the problem actually lies.

I think a point of agreement for all is that it's better to have clean air and water regardless of your position on climate.