LIVE GAME Round 13 v Cowboys

[Lestronge]

He said three penalties in a row in the red zone is an automatic sin bin …. And they were all committed by Luai … there is no requirement for a warning …. You can say it’s harsh but I think this is more worthy of a sinbin then AD where there was some doubt over whether Bateman was genuinely impeded or as diving …

Luai has got to be better and not push the envelope so hard …that put them in a massive hole from the start

That’s not a rule dude ! No disrespect … but that’s not how the game is normally refereed mate . It just isn’t !
He could have easily had , called time off and said next one is in the bin. But he chose the most extreme route . Which isn’t in the spirit of the game . I’m not debating whether they were penalties . They were . But I don’t think anyone reasonable saw the ref go straight to send offs.
He definitely skipped the middle step . And I’ve never heard of 3 penalties in a row is the bin … spare me that’s nonsense . Him and his mate Klein are notorious for making shit up on the spot .
If the ref doesn’t want a behaviour to continue he is obliged to warn the players .
It’s not high school detention mate . They’re there to keep the game even and fair . That’s litterally thier role . It’s not to not pick penalties .
The referees seem to have to totally forgotten thier remit .

 

[mtd#2]

Once they did concentrate on that, they looked unstoppable.

Hold the phone
Someone help pick me up off the floor.
Did I just read a positive take from tucker

Mods can someone check that tuckers account hasn't been hacked. Check the current IP address.

 

[Speed2burn]

We need to stop worrying about things we can't control such as penalties,six agains and sin bins. We need to worry about what we can control. Tackling ,running onto the ball, passing , kick chase and effort. If do that we will competitive evey match.

I thought some of our efforts were piss poor just as much as some of those calls

it’s a frustrating result, if we somehow stole that it would’ve been one of the greatest wins I’ve seen

 

[Halbrowne61]

Ref did state ,that's 3 consecutive infringements in 3consecutive sets from you Jerome it’s a send off . Amillion $ player should know the fine print ,as should all NRL players to manipulate those rules to the teams advantage , not get pinged for it

Both sin bins were valid imo. And in the end that cost us the game.

 

[mtd#2]

Why has Taylan not been signed? More procrastination by this club. Uncle Benny wants him and probably will sign him.

Because we are apparently close to getting either staggs or cobbo, apparently.

 

[Droppy05]

Bennett has history signing troubled individuals. Look at Schuster

And Darius Boyd.

 

[Droppy05]

Because we are apparently close to getting either staggs or cobbo, apparently.

I wish!

 

[BAGNF05]

Both sin bins were valid imo. And in the end that cost us the game.

The AD one I can live with. I thought the 6 agains one was unusual because it was so early. Normally repeated infringements are after it’s happened quite a bit. That was all in one set and felt like he made up a rule on the run too. Mandatory sin bin if it happens 3 times in one set. Did anyone here know that?

 

[Tucker]

Hold the phone
Someone help pick me up off the floor.
Did I just read a positive take from tucker

Mods can someone check that tuckers account hasn't been hacked. Check the current IP address.

You must be hard of comprehension as I told you early in the second half that we were a very good chance of winning that

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Alex Seyfarth 42 tackles and only 7 missed. Top effort from the big fella.

 

[Lestronge]

Ref did state ,that's 3 consecutive infringements in 3consecutive sets from you Jerome its a send off . Amillion $ player should know the fine print ,as should all NRL players to manipulate those rules to the teams advantage , not get pinged for it

He did it after he sent him off… there was no warning . And where is this 3 ina row = bin rule ?
It’s just not how the game should be refereed IMO. You take thenpiss yntil you’re told not to . You do it afterwards then it’s your fault .
There has to be a step where there’s a warning . And there wasn’t. .thats really poor communication IMO.
This gotcha style refereeing is a staple of the Sutton Brothers Era of refereeing . Nit picking , semantics , scouring the depths of the rule book , things like the short whistle …..
Communication and respect . And tonight it just wasn’t there .

 

[BAGNF05]

Alex Seyfarth 42 tackles and only 7 missed. Top effort from the big fella.

37 flops and 7 running metres

 

[mtd#2]

I know what you are saying but it happens to all teams. We cant constantly blame refs. The problems are deeper than ref decisions,

But it doesn't, not to the extent it does the tigers.

Referees have a bias.

They know which clubs/coaches have influence over the referee bosses and who is going to cost them a gig the next week.

Until the tigers have the respect and influence over the referees, like clubs such as the storm, manly and bulldogs, then we are going to keep seeing it.

As an example, dven though the raiders are doing well, they are a team who gets the rough end of the stick too...you remember the sh1t they had to deal with when playing manly at brooky earlier this year? What happened in that first half ruined what should have been a cracker match

 

[Droppy05]

Alex Seyfarth 42 tackles and only 7 missed. Top effort from the big fella.

Unfortunately its not about the tackles you make, but rather the ones you miss. They determine outcomes.

 

[Tucker]

The AD one I can live with. I thought the 6 agains one was unusual because it was so early. Normally repeated infringements are after it’s happened quite a bit. That was all in one set and felt like he made up a rule on the run too. Mandatory sin bin if it happens 3 times in one set. Did anyone here know that?

The same guy infringed 3 times in a row with them on our line attacking. It’s akin to a professional foul.

 

[mtd#2]

You must be hard of comprehension as I told you early in the second half that we were a very good chance of winning that

I had turned it off and I probably didn't read your comment.

Either wayz that makes it two in a matter of hours, further supporting my claims that there needs to be an investigation into where you are logged in from to verify this is the real tucker haha

 

[watersider]

Bird was terrible in his first spell, played a much better 13 role in his second. Do we keep buying dumb ill disciplined players or do we make our players dumb and ill disciplined?

Sukkar looks a player. Cant see anything that puts seyfarth in front of him.

Mason was a classic 5/8 but I wonder if he has the passing game and vision to do more than fill in. Seems like the sort of play Sheen's always hoped he'd see from rowdy when he tried to move him there. But Mason seems like the perfect sort of player to bring in as a utility off the bench and play him in a roving role. He always looks dangerous and was potentially our best today. Not sure of his stats but he also looked good defensively.

People critical of Hunt starting but I felt we looked physical in that first ten minutes and he was a good part of it. If you're doing that though then he's got to be off after 10 mins unless we have all the ball, he was left on one set too many tonight and it was obvious he was done.

Bula is damn good. Lots critical again earlier in the game, I just don't see what he does wrong.

May started on fire then turned into a ball player again. I've like him on big minutes but it didn't help him tonight. Again, could just be because so much of our games are played on the back foot. But he was tackling heaps at the start of the match and they were very dominant tackles. Rest of game...not so much. Not bad, just weary. He's our best player.

I don't mind Naden in the roving role. I'm sure it will blow up but he is probably a better utility than the current version of Bird and I don't think we can have both on the bench.

Sione fainu is our most impactful fainu at the moment. Really solid, physical player. Don't think he'd be overmatched starting for us.

There was some flash from luai late but either the team is not yet running off him properly or he didn't play well. I think it's on luai as a half to make sure players do run off him properly.

I understand we are trying to get minutes for TDS but he was having big impact for us when he came on for Api late in the half and I'm not sure why we went away from that.

Enjoyed @Winston Churchill 's contributions to the thread. Started reading as we were down 32-6 and his posts were cathartic. The comeback makes tonight less embarrassing but we'd be mistaken if we place much significance on that comeback.

 

[Lestronge]

Both sin bins were valid imo. And in the end that cost us the game.

💯 mate . I’m not debating the validity of them . Just more bemoaning why there wasn’t any warnings prior . Sure they’re adults and should know better , but that’s not really a variable . You’re coached to push boundaries and let the ref make decisions . The usual sequence of events is a warning, tonight straight off the field. Huge communication breakdown / the ref feeling the need to exert his authority .
Like I said in an earlier post , i thought Sutton was good tonight . I just don’t understand the luai send off, from a “social contract” kind of way .
Like there’s a social contract on a footy field that players push boundaries , are warned , then they either pull their head in or they suffer the consequences .
I just don’t feel that “social contract” was upheld tonight .

 

[mtd#2]

The AD one I can live with. I thought the 6 agains one was unusual because it was so early. Normally repeated infringements are after it’s happened quite a bit. That was all in one set and felt like he made up a rule on the run too. Mandatory sin bin if it happens 3 times in one set. Did anyone here know that?

I said it somewhere else.

I believe if Luai does this at Penrith last year they call him out give him a warning and blow a penalty. Everyone praises Luai for slowing things down and cowboys taking the 2

 

[Droppy05]

But it doesn't, not to the extent it does the tigers.

Referees have a bias.

They know which clubs/coaches have influence over the referee bosses and who is going to cost them a gig the next week.

Until the tigers have the respect and influence over the referees, like clubs such as the storm, manly and bulldogs, then we are going to keep seeing it.

As an example, dven though the raiders are doing well, they are a team who gets the rough end of the stick too...you remember the sh1t they had to deal with when playing manly at brooky earlier this year? What happened in that first half ruined what should have been a cracker match

But where are the raiders on the table for a team that gets the "rough end of the stick"?