Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

TYGA said:
Our issues summarised as someone that played the game for a long time. Not NRL level.

1. Line speed and contact in defence, wrestle is poor teams make too many metres and kick off the front foot and often pin us back. We get limited to no kick pressure.

2. Back 3 outside or Turuva and before injury Skelton make no metres out of trouble.

3. When we kick its off a slow play the ball and from deep in our own end.

4. Our kickers Latu and Luai are good but don’t have massive boots.

5. We have errors in us fielding kicks particularly Skelton who gets targeted often.

Teams like Penrith which grind retain field position and strangle us to a bitter end. Like clockwork they bomb the wingers and pin is back.

There is only one way out of it recruit players that can do these things and train the house down in the offseason.

I wish it was the coach that’s an easy solution for wishful thinkers or those that have an axe to grind. Teams that play like Penrith with their quality will beat us 99/100 times when motivated. This is the end of the season we get beat down by premiership sides.
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I get extremely agitated when we play the better teams, we are just dominated in the ruck, they slow us down, they get in the way. They just dominate and stop any of our momentum.

When it’s our turn, we don’t dominate a tackle🙈.

I understand every teams defensive system is different. But our current ‘hold your spot, scramble from the inside’, just doesn’t compete with the best teams who dominate the ruck and line speed and then control momentum for the match.
 
Kelce68 said:
He's been trying to instill it all year.

A conservative first 20, then stick in the game and win late.

It's a shithouse game plan and it hasn't been adapted at all over the course of the season.

It doesn't play to our strengths and there appears to be no effort put into the 1%ers that make that game plan successful.

Basic shit like line speed, ball runners receiving the ball at the advantage line, kick pressure, competing on kicks, passes out in front, operating at speed, etc, just isn't there.

Penrith did everything 10% better last night and it blew the game wide open.

Benji can recruit and can get the dressing room showing up for him. But the cookie-cutter, generic game plans that look like they've been torn out of the play book that Melbourne donated to Vinnies in 2019 is some of the most amateur shit I've seen.

They've actually started to build a squad and have actual threats on the park, but they don't use any of them.

Latu and Luai's running games have disappeared. What exactly has the Doueihi experiment achieved? Wingers shifting sides. Poor, predictable selections. No competing on high kicks even in the opposition half. No protection for the kickers. Everything at half pace.

The biggest challenge in this rebuild was the squad. That has finally started to improve.

The next will be the actual coaching.

I hope for the love of God that Richo has told Benji behind closed doors that he has a free swing the back end of this year to get combinations right long term ahead of 26, because, if not, these crack-addict selections and positional switches and redundant, derivative, half-assed plays are a ticket to nowhere.
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OMG THIS!

You have completely nailed it.

AD should have been told "you are safe here. Your position is right center, that is where you will stay and build from now on". OR "you don't want to be Center, sure... but your going utility and we are keeping someone else at right Center".
The AD experiment has achieved nothing and I don't blame AD for this. (I do blame him for signing with Issac Moses and he should walk for that alone).

It created a strange attack and ruined our defensive structures. We need players to stay at Center and own the damn spot. Guys who know when their winger can take the attacker in front of them and when they need to move in/out.
 
Tiger Stripes said:
1. I thought Izaac Tu'itupou out played Skelton. Retain for next week.
2. We had no line speed when defending. They ran us ragged down the middle as the game progressed.
3. We had no chasers whatsoever competing for bombs. And we sent plenty!
4. Toá is a metre or so to slow compared to opposition centres and is matched by his poor defence.
5. Positives...........they all put in 100%.............Overall, just not classy enough.
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We never have any line speed when defending and it pisses me off. All the good teams sprint off the line, WTs barely move off the line.
 
Tucker said:
Turuva isn’t a long term prospect at the back.
He is extremely one dimensional and even though that has been a breath of fresh air so far, opposition defences will soon understand that there is zero nuance to his attack. There is no deception, no ballplaying, just hard fast returns.
Bula offers a hell of a lot more and I have no doubt we’d still be 2 & 2 had he been there as those two wins were against a side missing most of their team and the worst performed side in the comp
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Going to disagree.
Look you have a point re Turuva, but seriously with Benji, Hodgson and our staff we should be the team to teach him more in attack. If he is one dimentional in Attack, heck that's one dimension that has scored for us this year.

What I like about Turuva is what Toa has said "he vastly improved my defense". You have a combination that is working and it's lead to sides like Penrith to score through our middle (I doubt we will win another game. Melbourne did us nasty 64-0 by going through the middle and the Riff worked it out as well 32-2).

This brings me back to Bula. I like Bula but a good fullback needs to help coordinate the defense. Bula has been dynamic in attack and often in games the commentators have said "Bula is their only chance". ... But Bula in defense is leaving us with gaps.

Fullback needs to be able to plug those gaps. So far Bula hasn't been doing that and I don't know that's it's us just missing half our forward pack OR that Bula doesn't have the defense side in him.

Can't loose Turuva, he has been one of the things that has gone right this season.
 
weststigers said:
He's scored about 11 tries in 100 games across English and NRL games. I'd be surprised if he starts scoring more with us.
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Mate do you have an option on the prop we picked up from Canberra I believe he was going good before an injury and Chance they will give him a run in first to see what he is made of
 
Given their current positions in their respective squads, the two guys I would be enquiring about for next season are Trey Mooney (bench middle) and J’maine Hopgood (lock).

With Papali’i looking likely to stay at Canberra, they may be willing to let Mooney go. We enquired about Mooney before June 30 but were knocked back, however that was when Canberra thought Papali’i would be leaving.

Hopgood has been moved to prop in recent weeks with Ryles preferring Dylan Walker in the lock role.

These two would improve our 17 immensely and leave guys like Seyfarth, Twal, Bird and Doueihi all fighting for one bench spot and the others in Cup (depth).
 
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